My apologies for being a bit stupid - but I thought the DSM was a rack version of the DSS - containing the same stuff? No analog filters in the DSM? /C >________________________________ > From: Jason Adkins <jason_ralf808@...> >To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 2:50 AM >Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m > > > >You certainly seem to be doing some interesting stuff Jammie. >I used to have briefly a DSM1,sorry I hated it nowhere near as good as >the DSS-1 no delay's and no analogue filters as standard without >f**king about with it (I''m no circuit bender sadly) sorry I love the >digital wave stuff but I'm still a tart when it comes to analogue >filters and the floppy on the DSM1 was a c**t. no wonder everybody and >his wife bought an Akai. > >I think I may have Turbosynth.... also you can do some interesting >stuff with Steinberg Avalon (Atari again). > >Sorry for truncated response my football team Norwich are on match of >the day in a moment which I want to watch, they beat Arsenal for the >first time at Carrow Road in 28 years today. > >J > >On 20 Oct 2012, at 22:38, jammie wrote: > >> i have loads of 8bit waves for the prophet vs >> >> we are working on new pcm cards for the wavestation so in the near >> future it will be possible to write new pcm data to the pcm card >> >> plus they are going to be 2-4mb switched in 512k banks >> >> get a dsm1 they are great same additive engine as the dss1 and it >> has 4 multitimbral so doing prophet vs sounds is easy >> >> but with samples so its more like a jd800/jd990 but with analog >> filters >> >> the dsm1 has 16 of the dss1 chips res is tied to ground but easy to >> cut a trace add a 100ohm resister for current limiting and adding a >> pot to a 5v source this willgive good res but not self osc becuase >> you need 7v for that >> >> i used on one of my dsm1 machines with a doepfer midi to cv >> controller you get 16 midi cv outputs that can be set up to any midi >> cc control they are 0-5 v cv,s >> >> the emax uses the same type of system but you have 32 partials but >> you also get to do them on a table ppg style >> >> you choose various additive waveforms on this table then you set >> volume envelopes for each cycle in the table and pitch envelopes and >> the you interpolate from one single cycle to the other creating a >> spectral variating waveform like as if you were scanning the ppg >> wavetables >> >> the emax then creates this as a multisample and then you loop it or >> what ever to get good no clicking loops of this file you need to use >> the same single cycle additive waveform >> >> for slot one and the end slot >> >> the digidesign designed a software program that copied this and it >> could do it on a mac screen rather than use the tiny lcd >> >> it was called softsynth both for mac and atari >> >> then they did a better version called turbo synth both mac and atari >> >> i used to use it on the mirage as it did great wavetables like this >> and made it easy for looping >> >> i create transwaves the same way for ensoniqs as they can sweep them >> like the ppg >> >> i have done all the ppg >> >> the uwaveand wave which has 64 of them which also include the ppg >> but they sound different becuase the uwave and xt use half cycle >> waves then they compute the other half as a mirror image >> >> which is impossible to do with additive synthesis >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jason Adkins >> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:56 PM >> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m >> >> >> >> Hi Jammie, >> >> I have never used an Emax I think Francis Cote who post's on here has >> an Emax or 2 so he'd be a good guy to talk to. >> I'd love a DSS1 again but I havn't got the space now sadly (I used to >> keep all my gear around a friends house at the time) those things are >> f**king huge. >> Can you do a similar trick with a wavestation/prophet VS? >> >> J >> >> On 20 Oct 2012, at 21:33, jammie wrote: >> >>> and single cycle waves are the way to go with theses samplers the k3 >>> k5 k5000 ppg dss1 and the fz1 range all have additive sin synthesis >>> >>> but the neat trick on both the dss1 and the fz range is that you can >>> link mix the additive waves to create a moving wavetable >>> >>> a bit like the emax spectral synth generation >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: jammie >>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com >>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:29 PM >>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m >>> >>> >>> >>> yes you can fit scsi its the card fitted to the fz20 >>> >>> but you need a copy of the scsi floppy access software >>> >>> and charlie still needs to get a good working floppy drive >>> >>> the floppy emulator is cheaper than a replacement drive >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Jason Adkins >>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com >>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:19 PM >>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m >>> >>> I think the FZ1/10m/20m is worth the effort the synth section sounds >>> superb,my friend used to use that all the time,the only other synth/ >>> sampler I have used which had the a similar function was the Korg >>> DSS-1 (just usiing a slider) although there are a few programs for >>> the >>> Atari which allow you to draw a waveform as does the Roland samplers >>> and the Fairlight of course. >>> I think a PPG and possibly the Kawai K5 could do additive drawing >>> using a slider too. >>> I know the FZ10m could be fitted with scsi because I saw one in a >>> studio in Islington London and I asked the engineer if I could have a >>> look around the back because he was loading sounds to it from a Jaz >>> drive. >>> >>> J >>> >>> On 19 Oct 2012, at 00:18, charlie midi gfa wrote: >>> >>>> im sure the technicians will love me $$$ , >>>> and by now the prices of a >>>> shugart to scsi adaptor has sky rocketed..... >>>> so the raw image is it 1.68 Mb? >>>> please go on jammie , do you use some of this technology personally? >>>> i am interested adapting >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> charles >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Jason Adkins" <jason_ralf808@...> >>>> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:23 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m >>>> >>>> >>>>> I don't agree,I think the FZ10m had a scsi option too. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 18 Oct 2012, at 19:43, jammie wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> its the floppy emulator image software that does a raw image it >>>>>> cant >>>>>> be read by anything except the fz1/fz10/fz20 >>>>>> >>>>>> there is no other programs that can write the floppy image back to >>>>>> the floppy becuase its a different speed >>>>>> >>>>>> only the fz20 had scsi and its useless with out the floppy as >>>>>> its a >>>>>> floppy disk access program has to be loaded sop that the fz20 can >>>>>> use the scsi >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Jason Adkins >>>>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:35 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Isn't there a PC program that will image FZ1/10m/20m floppies? >>>>>> Is your FZ10m fitted with SCSI? >>>>>> >>>>>> J >>>>>> >>>>>> On 17 Oct 2012, at 00:11, charlie midi gfa wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> so a little o.t. >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> anybody tell me what drive will work in a fz10m , >>>>>>> (cross reference the matsushita ju-255 ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i can't find suitable drive or a indentical one to repair the >>>>>>> fz10m >>>>>>> >>>>>>> charles >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yahoo! 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Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
2012-10-21 by Carl Lofgren