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Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m

2012-10-23 by jammie

i mentioned both programs i have both for atari and mac
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: charlie midi gfa 
  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m


    
  jammi
  i think you are forgetiing about turbo synth , and soft synth

  this was sound designers mate

  it too was a digidesign program,,

  god bless rainer broadsen
  and digidesign! i have for atari all mentioned

  charles

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "jammie" <jammie.emma@...>
  To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 5:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m

  >i have loads of 8bit waves for the prophet vs
  >
  > we are working on new pcm cards for the wavestation so in the near future 
  > it will be possible to write new pcm data to the pcm card
  >
  > plus they are going to be 2-4mb switched in 512k banks
  >
  > get a dsm1 they are great same additive engine as the dss1 and it has 4 
  > multitimbral so doing prophet vs sounds is easy
  >
  > but with samples so its more like a jd800/jd990 but with analog filters
  >
  > the dsm1 has 16 of the dss1 chips res is tied to ground but easy to cut a 
  > trace add a 100ohm resister for current limiting and adding a pot to a 5v 
  > source this willgive good res but not self osc becuase you need 7v for 
  > that
  >
  > i used on one of my dsm1 machines with a doepfer midi to cv controller you 
  > get 16 midi cv outputs that can be set up to any midi cc control they are 
  > 0-5 v cv,s
  >
  > the emax uses the same type of system but you have 32 partials but you 
  > also get to do them on a table ppg style
  >
  > you choose various additive waveforms on this table then you set volume 
  > envelopes for each cycle in the table and pitch envelopes and the you 
  > interpolate from one single cycle to the other creating a spectral 
  > variating waveform like as if you were scanning the ppg wavetables
  >
  > the emax then creates this as a multisample and then you loop it or what 
  > ever to get good no clicking loops of this file you need to use the same 
  > single cycle additive waveform
  >
  > for slot one and the end slot
  >
  > the digidesign designed a software program that copied this and it could 
  > do it on a mac screen rather than use the tiny lcd
  >
  > it was called softsynth both for mac and atari
  >
  > then they did a better version called turbo synth both mac and atari
  >
  > i used to use it on the mirage as it did great wavetables like this and 
  > made it easy for looping
  >
  > i create transwaves the same way for ensoniqs as they can sweep them like 
  > the ppg
  >
  > i have done all the ppg
  >
  > the uwaveand wave which has 64 of them which also include the ppg but they 
  > sound different becuase the uwave and xt use half cycle waves then they 
  > compute the other half as a mirror image
  >
  > which is impossible to do with additive synthesis
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: Jason Adkins
  > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:56 PM
  > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
  >
  >
  >
  > Hi Jammie,
  >
  > I have never used an Emax I think Francis Cote who post's on here has
  > an Emax or 2 so he'd be a good guy to talk to.
  > I'd love a DSS1 again but I havn't got the space now sadly (I used to
  > keep all my gear around a friends house at the time) those things are
  > f**king huge.
  > Can you do a similar trick with a wavestation/prophet VS?
  >
  > J
  >
  > On 20 Oct 2012, at 21:33, jammie wrote:
  >
  > > and single cycle waves are the way to go with theses samplers the k3
  > > k5 k5000 ppg dss1 and the fz1 range all have additive sin synthesis
  > >
  > > but the neat trick on both the dss1 and the fz range is that you can
  > > link mix the additive waves to create a moving wavetable
  > >
  > > a bit like the emax spectral synth generation
  > >
  > >
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: jammie
  > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
  > > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:29 PM
  > > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > yes you can fit scsi its the card fitted to the fz20
  > >
  > > but you need a copy of the scsi floppy access software
  > >
  > > and charlie still needs to get a good working floppy drive
  > >
  > > the floppy emulator is cheaper than a replacement drive
  > >
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: Jason Adkins
  > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
  > > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:19 PM
  > > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
  > >
  > > I think the FZ1/10m/20m is worth the effort the synth section sounds
  > > superb,my friend used to use that all the time,the only other synth/
  > > sampler I have used which had the a similar function was the Korg
  > > DSS-1 (just usiing a slider) although there are a few programs for
  > > the
  > > Atari which allow you to draw a waveform as does the Roland samplers
  > > and the Fairlight of course.
  > > I think a PPG and possibly the Kawai K5 could do additive drawing
  > > using a slider too.
  > > I know the FZ10m could be fitted with scsi because I saw one in a
  > > studio in Islington London and I asked the engineer if I could have a
  > > look around the back because he was loading sounds to it from a Jaz
  > > drive.
  > >
  > > J
  > >
  > > On 19 Oct 2012, at 00:18, charlie midi gfa wrote:
  > >
  > >> im sure the technicians will love me $$$ ,
  > >> and by now the prices of a
  > >> shugart to scsi adaptor has sky rocketed.....
  > >> so the raw image is it 1.68 Mb?
  > >> please go on jammie , do you use some of this technology personally?
  > >> i am interested adapting
  > >>
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> charles
  > >>
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> ----- Original Message -----
  > >> From: "Jason Adkins" <jason_ralf808@...>
  > >> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
  > >> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:23 PM
  > >> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
  > >>
  > >>
  > >>> I don't agree,I think the FZ10m had a scsi option too.
  > >>>
  > >>>
  > >>> On 18 Oct 2012, at 19:43, jammie wrote:
  > >>>
  > >>>> its the floppy emulator image software that does a raw image it
  > >>>> cant
  > >>>> be read by anything except the fz1/fz10/fz20
  > >>>>
  > >>>> there is no other programs that can write the floppy image back to
  > >>>> the floppy becuase its a different speed
  > >>>>
  > >>>> only the fz20 had scsi and its useless with out the floppy as its a
  > >>>> floppy disk access program has to be loaded sop that the fz20 can
  > >>>> use the scsi
  > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
  > >>>> From: Jason Adkins
  > >>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
  > >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:35 PM
  > >>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
  > >>>>
  > >>>>
  > >>>>
  > >>>> Isn't there a PC program that will image FZ1/10m/20m floppies?
  > >>>> Is your FZ10m fitted with SCSI?
  > >>>>
  > >>>> J
  > >>>>
  > >>>> On 17 Oct 2012, at 00:11, charlie midi gfa wrote:
  > >>>>
  > >>>>> so a little o.t.
  > >>>>> but
  > >>>>> anybody tell me what drive will work in a fz10m ,
  > >>>>> (cross reference the matsushita ju-255 )
  > >>>>>
  > >>>>> i can't find suitable drive or a indentical one to repair the
  > >>>>> fz10m
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