Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

I have been following this thread and confess I am as confused as Jerome and I thought I understood CZ programming.
My understanding was that there were 2 waveforms per DCO.  I presume that the colon is separating the 1st and second waveform,so what are the second pair of numbers?
I am intrigued by the 'combination' waveform - how on earth does one do that?

LEE




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On Tue, 17/6/14, Jérôme jeromestpierre@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: RE: [CZsynth] DCO settings in "The Easy CZ Book"
 To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, 17 June, 2014, 8:59
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Hello Alfons & JPS,
 
 I am very glad to see this group is still
 active!
 
 Thank you for your
 answer Alfons but I have already read the DCO section of the
 owner manual (page 24 in English version) and I understand
 perfectly we can combine 2 different wave forms for each
 DCO.
 
 But in the Easy CZ
 Book that contains many patch sheets, 2 wave forms
 combinations are indicated by DCO. For instance, on the
 first patch "Parrot Voice" it indicates wave 1:4
 and 2:0 for the first DCO and then 1:5 and 2:0 for the
 second DCO.
 
 As you
 mentionned JPS, I also thought those patches were meant to
 be programmed in Tone Mix mode, but there is only envelope
 settings for both DCO, DCW and DCA, for a total of 6
 envelopes. So it doesn't seem like those patches are
 meant to be programmed in Tone Mix mode.
 
 You both confirmed what I already thought, but
 I still don't understand why the patch sheets in the
 book are indicating 4 wave forms by DCO for a total of 8
 wave forms selection by tone. If someone already tried to
 program any Easy CZ book patches, I would also be curious to
 know why left pointing arrows like '<-' are  also
 sometimes indicated in the envolopes settings. I guess the
 arrows are pointing on the Sustain points on the envelope
 but this is not totally clear to me...
 
 Thanks & have a nice one,
 
 Jérôme
 
 "'Alfons Martinez'
 alfons-martinez@telefonica.net [CZsynth]"
 <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :
 
 
  
 
 
 
     
       
       
       Hello Jérôme:  I am not sure to have understood
 your question, but I will try to explain it according to the
 reference manual (pag.17)As you say, there are 2 DCO (DCO1
 and DCO2), that can be adjusted with their envelopes (as far
 as you select line 1+2)For each DCO, you can set the
 waveform. And here is where you can choose between 8 SIMPLE
 waveforms, let`s say (1:1, 2:0), or also a COMBINATION of 2
 waveforms (1:2, 2:5) for instance.The wave is combined in a new wave
 that can sound very different of the original
 ones.So you have really
 more than the basic 8 waveforms: you have 33 combinations.
 It should be 8X8=64, but (1:1, 2:1) is equivalent to (1:1,
 2:0), and the last 3 types of resonant waves cannot be
 combined between them.I insist on taking a look at
 pag.17 of the manual, where DCO and waveforms are
 explained.  Au revoir.      De: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com] 
 Enviado
 el: lunes, 16 de junio de 2014 21:45
 Para: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
 Asunto: [CZsynth] DCO settings in
 "The Easy CZ Book"   
 Hi all,
 
 I recently acquired a CZ-1 and I was just going
 through The Easy CZ Book 
 that was posted in
 the group files section. This book is indeed easy to
 
 follow but there is still a detail that
 keeping me puzzled on the patch 
 sheets...
 
 I
 don't understand why there is 4 DCO wave combinations
 for each patch 
 where it's only possible
 to enter 2 DCO wave combinations by tone. It 
 indicates the rate and level of the 8 envelope
 points for both DCO, DCW 
 and DCA, but it
 also indicates 4 DCO wave combinations on the right side 
 as for instance on "Sound 2 Violin
 1":
 
 WAVE
 1:1
 2:0
 
 and then for the second oscillator:
 
 WAVE
 1:2
 2:5
 
 Since
 there is only 2 wave forms by DCO, how are we suppose to set
 those 
 4 oscillators?
 
 I guess I must be missing a something dumb but
 this is now really 
 leaving me scratching my
 head...
 
 Cheers & have a
 nice one,
 
 -- 
 Jérôme 
 
     
      
 
     
 
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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