Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

I have been following this thread and confess I am as confused as Jerome and I thought I understood CZ programming.
My understanding was that there were 2 waveforms per DCO. I presume that the colon is separating the 1st and second waveform,so what are the second pair of numbers?
I am intrigued by the 'combination' waveform - how on earth does one do that?

LEE

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On Tue, 17/6/14, Jérôme jeromestpierre@riseup.net [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: RE: [CZsynth] DCO settings in "The Easy CZ Book"
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 17 June, 2014, 8:59












Hello Alfons & JPS,

I am very glad to see this group is still
active!

Thank you for your
answer Alfons but I have already read the DCO section of the
owner manual (page 24 in English version) and I understand
perfectly we can combine 2 different wave forms for each
DCO.

But in the Easy CZ
Book that contains many patch sheets, 2 wave forms
combinations are indicated by DCO. For instance, on the
first patch "Parrot Voice" it indicates wave 1:4
and 2:0 for the first DCO and then 1:5 and 2:0 for the
second DCO.

As you
mentionned JPS, I also thought those patches were meant to
be programmed in Tone Mix mode, but there is only envelope
settings for both DCO, DCW and DCA, for a total of 6
envelopes. So it doesn't seem like those patches are
meant to be programmed in Tone Mix mode.

You both confirmed what I already thought, but
I still don't understand why the patch sheets in the
book are indicating 4 wave forms by DCO for a total of 8
wave forms selection by tone. If someone already tried to
program any Easy CZ book patches, I would also be curious to
know why left pointing arrows like '<-' are also
sometimes indicated in the envolopes settings. I guess the
arrows are pointing on the Sustain points on the envelope
but this is not totally clear to me...

Thanks & have a nice one,

Jérôme

"'Alfons Martinez'
alfons-martinez@telefonica.net [CZsynth]"
<CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :









Hello Jérôme: I am not sure to have understood
your question, but I will try to explain it according to the
reference manual (pag.17)As you say, there are 2 DCO (DCO1
and DCO2), that can be adjusted with their envelopes (as far
as you select line 1+2)For each DCO, you can set the
waveform. And here is where you can choose between 8 SIMPLE
waveforms, let`s say (1:1, 2:0), or also a COMBINATION of 2
waveforms (1:2, 2:5) for instance.The wave is combined in a new wave
that can sound very different of the original
ones.So you have really
more than the basic 8 waveforms: you have 33 combinations.
It should be 8X8=64, but (1:1, 2:1) is equivalent to (1:1,
2:0), and the last 3 types of resonant waves cannot be
combined between them.I insist on taking a look at
pag.17 of the manual, where DCO and waveforms are
explained. Au revoir. De: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com]
Enviado
el: lunes, 16 de junio de 2014 21:45
Para: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [CZsynth] DCO settings in
"The Easy CZ Book"
Hi all,

I recently acquired a CZ-1 and I was just going
through The Easy CZ Book
that was posted in
the group files section. This book is indeed easy to

follow but there is still a detail that
keeping me puzzled on the patch
sheets...

I
don't understand why there is 4 DCO wave combinations
for each patch
where it's only possible
to enter 2 DCO wave combinations by tone. It
indicates the rate and level of the 8 envelope
points for both DCO, DCW
and DCA, but it
also indicates 4 DCO wave combinations on the right side
as for instance on "Sound 2 Violin
1":

WAVE
1:1
2:0

and then for the second oscillator:

WAVE
1:2
2:5

Since
there is only 2 wave forms by DCO, how are we suppose to set
those
4 oscillators?

I guess I must be missing a something dumb but
this is now really
leaving me scratching my
head...

Cheers & have a
nice one,

--
Jérôme
















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