M/T help thanks
2004-06-01 by texhand
Thanks for the responses. The schematic for connecting the 8 pins to a in and out on a recorder would be nice. I would really like the ability to store sequences to a tape interface.. Thanks for the imput!
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M/T help thanks
Re: M/T help thanks
2004-06-01 by steve_the_composer
I just got the multimeter out. The following numbering is looking >>AT<< the 8 pin din plug [male] with the notch at top [V]. (Periods are used for white space so. Pin 8 is actually between the 7-1 and 6- 2 rows.) This would correspond with counterclockwise numbering on the 8 pin din recepticle [female] on the CZ-5000. .....V..... ..7.....1.. 6....8....2 ..5.....3.. .....4..... white remote switch sleeve - 1 white remote switch tip - 7 [submini] black playback sleeve - 4 black playback tip - 3 [mini] red record sleeve - 4 red record tip - 5 [mini] Note the symmetry: pin 3 = play signal pin 4 = play/record common pin 5 = record signal pins 1 & 7 = remote switch I suppose if you accidentally wire it as a mirror image, just switch the play and record plugs rather than take apart and rewire the whole thing (assuming the remote switch is a simple open/close switch with no polarity). Hope this makes sense; hope this helps. Unfortunately, I couldn't find my cz data tapes. I did find a KORG EX-800 tape, tough. --Steve --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "texhand" <texhand@y...> wrote:
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> Thanks for the responses. The schematic for connecting the 8 pins > to an in and out on a recorder would be nice. I would really like > the ability to store sequences to a tape interface.. > Thanks for the imput!
Re: M/T help thanks
2004-06-01 by texhand
--- Thanks-- I am deducting than one only needs the 3,5,and common 4? 1&7 for remote,(not necessary) 2,6,8 of no use? or what would 2, 6, 8, connect for? Anyway thanks for your effort In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:
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> I just got the multimeter out. The following numbering is looking > >>AT<< the 8 pin din plug [male] with the notch at top [V]. (Periods > are used for white space so. Pin 8 is actually between the 7-1 and 6- > 2 rows.) This would correspond with counterclockwise numbering on > the 8 pin din recepticle [female] on the CZ-5000. > > .....V..... > ..7.....1.. > 6....8....2 > ..5.....3.. > .....4..... > > white remote switch sleeve - 1 > white remote switch tip - 7 > [submini] > > black playback sleeve - 4 > black playback tip - 3 > [mini] > > red record sleeve - 4 > red record tip - 5 > [mini] > > Note the symmetry: > > pin 3 = play signal > pin 4 = play/record common > pin 5 = record signal > > pins 1 & 7 = remote switch > > I suppose if you accidentally wire it as a mirror image, just switch > the play and record plugs rather than take apart and rewire the whole > thing (assuming the remote switch is a simple open/close switch with > no polarity). > > Hope this makes sense; hope this helps. > > Unfortunately, I couldn't find my cz data tapes. I did find a KORG > EX-800 tape, tough. > > --Steve > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "texhand" <texhand@y...> wrote: > > Thanks for the responses. The schematic for connecting the 8 pins > > to an in and out on a recorder would be nice. I would really like > > the ability to store sequences to a tape interface.. > > Thanks for the imput!
Re: M/T help thanks
2004-06-01 by texhand
Oh' and Steve on your blck and red sleeves and tips--(mini) are you talking rca connector? In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:
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> I just got the multimeter out. The following numbering is looking > >>AT<< the 8 pin din plug [male] with the notch at top [V]. (Periods > are used for white space so. Pin 8 is actually between the 7-1 and 6- > 2 rows.) This would correspond with counterclockwise numbering on > the 8 pin din recepticle [female] on the CZ-5000. > > .....V..... > ..7.....1.. > 6....8....2 > ..5.....3.. > .....4..... > > white remote switch sleeve - 1 > white remote switch tip - 7 > [submini] > > black playback sleeve - 4 > black playback tip - 3 > [mini] > > red record sleeve - 4 > red record tip - 5 > [mini] > > Note the symmetry: > > pin 3 = play signal > pin 4 = play/record common > pin 5 = record signal > > pins 1 & 7 = remote switch > > I suppose if you accidentally wire it as a mirror image, just switch > the play and record plugs rather than take apart and rewire the whole > thing (assuming the remote switch is a simple open/close switch with > no polarity). > > Hope this makes sense; hope this helps. > > Unfortunately, I couldn't find my cz data tapes. I did find a KORG > EX-800 tape, tough. > > --Steve > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "texhand" <texhand@y...> wrote: > > Thanks for the responses. The schematic for connecting the 8 pins > > to an in and out on a recorder would be nice. I would really like > > the ability to store sequences to a tape interface.. > > Thanks for the imput!
Re: M/T help thanks
2004-06-01 by texhand
oops-- never mind a mini is a mini jack--- sorry -- your post is clear after re-reads n CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "texhand" <texhand@y...> wrote:
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> Oh' and Steve on your blck and red sleeves and tips--(mini) are you > talking rca connector? > > > > > > > In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote: > > I just got the multimeter out. The following numbering is looking > > >>AT<< the 8 pin din plug [male] with the notch at top [V]. (Periods > > are used for white space so. Pin 8 is actually between the 7-1 and 6- > > 2 rows.) This would correspond with counterclockwise numbering on > > the 8 pin din recepticle [female] on the CZ-5000. > > > > .....V..... > > ..7.....1.. > > 6....8....2 > > ..5.....3.. > > .....4..... > > > > white remote switch sleeve - 1 > > white remote switch tip - 7 > > [submini] > > > > black playback sleeve - 4 > > black playback tip - 3 > > [mini] > > > > red record sleeve - 4 > > red record tip - 5 > > [mini] > > > > Note the symmetry: > > > > pin 3 = play signal > > pin 4 = play/record common > > pin 5 = record signal > > > > pins 1 & 7 = remote switch > > > > I suppose if you accidentally wire it as a mirror image, just switch > > the play and record plugs rather than take apart and rewire the whole > > thing (assuming the remote switch is a simple open/close switch with > > no polarity). > > > > Hope this makes sense; hope this helps. > > > > Unfortunately, I couldn't find my cz data tapes. I did find a KORG > > EX-800 tape, tough. > > > > --Steve > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "texhand" <texhand@y...> wrote: > > > Thanks for the responses. The schematic for connecting the 8 pins > > > to an in and out on a recorder would be nice. I would really like > > > the ability to store sequences to a tape interface.. > > > Thanks for the imput!
Re: M/T help thanks
2004-06-01 by steve_the_composer
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "texhand" <texhand@y...> wrote: > Oh' and Steve on your blck and red sleeves and tips--(mini) are you > talking rca connector? Nope. I forget the actual size. I am used to calling the standard size down from 1/4" phone plugs "mini plugs" and the next standard size down from that "sub mini plugs." That's just the way I heard them. Mini plugs are the ones you find most commonly (at least in the US) on sound cards (analog audio in/out), CD/DVD drives (headphones), etc. My cordless phone takes a trs (tip, ring, sleeve) sub mini plug for the ear piece/mic. (Sorry I don't have a cell phone.) They look like 1/4" phone plugs only smaller. Plus the tips are shaped a little different than the 1/4 plug. They are not to be confused with RCA connectors. Hope this helps. As for 2, 6 and 8, I am not sure. All I did was take the multimeter and compare the tips and rings on the plugs with the 8 pins. --Steve
CZ-5000 MT to PC audio save-load-verify test
2004-06-01 by steve_the_composer
I just did a test. There was a grounding problem hum on the PC audio when the CZ and PC were connected (MT red record to PC mic in). Neverless, I recorded an A/B digital audio dump, a C/D digital audio dump, and a sequencer digital audio dump. All three verified OK. Next, I changed an A/B preset and compared it with the digital audio dump from the PC. There was a verify error. So, I loaded back in the original A/B, got an OK on the load, reverified, and got an OK. It would seem that despite the hum, it worked. I used Sound Forge XP 4.5 for the test. Opinion: If you have sysex capability for patch and sequencer dumps on a PC, I'd recommend that over digital audio dumps! Hope this helps
Re: CZ-5000 MT to PC audio save-load-verify test
2004-06-02 by texhand
--very nice, you show that it is possible and I may go that way.. Thanks for the leg work and any other imput for use of the M/T is most appreciated... Thanks - In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:
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> I just did a test. There was a grounding problem hum on the PC audio > when the CZ and PC were connected (MT red record to PC mic in). > Neverless, I recorded an A/B digital audio dump, a C/D digital audio > dump, and a sequencer digital audio dump. All three verified OK. > > Next, I changed an A/B preset and compared it with the digital audio > dump from the PC. There was a verify error. > > So, I loaded back in the original A/B, got an OK on the load, > reverified, and got an OK. > > It would seem that despite the hum, it worked. > > I used Sound Forge XP 4.5 for the test. > > Opinion: If you have sysex capability for patch and sequencer dumps > on a PC, I'd recommend that over digital audio dumps! > > Hope this helps
Re: CZ-5000 MT to PC audio save-load-verify test
2004-06-02 by texhand
--- Steve the composer-- did you connect to the pc using just the record and play back mini's on the m/t cable you have? I am am just curious if just those two plugs will do the interface! In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:
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> I just did a test. There was a grounding problem hum on the PC audio > when the CZ and PC were connected (MT red record to PC mic in). > Neverless, I recorded an A/B digital audio dump, a C/D digital audio > dump, and a sequencer digital audio dump. All three verified OK. > > Next, I changed an A/B preset and compared it with the digital audio > dump from the PC. There was a verify error. > > So, I loaded back in the original A/B, got an OK on the load, > reverified, and got an OK. > > It would seem that despite the hum, it worked. > > I used Sound Forge XP 4.5 for the test. > > Opinion: If you have sysex capability for patch and sequencer dumps > on a PC, I'd recommend that over digital audio dumps! > > Hope this helps
Re: [CZsynth] CZ-5000 MT to PC audio save-load-verify test
2004-06-03 by Max Romantschuk
steve_the_composer wrote: > I just did a test. There was a grounding problem hum on the PC audio > when the CZ and PC were connected (MT red record to PC mic in). Sometimes I've found that you can red rid of grounding hum by disconnecting the ground from one of the connected devices. This is easy with european Schuko plugs ( http://kropla.com/!f.htm ,) by taping over the grounding strips on the plug. Depending on the type of plug it might be more or less tricky, and/or impossible. Also beware of the risks for running a device designed to be grounded without grounding! Another option is to experiment with running the devices in the same or totally different (usually at the other end of th house ;) outlets. Both may sometimes aid in killing the ground loop. On the other hand a ground loop is a steady hum, and modern audio software can remove hum when given a sample with a bit of just the hum and nothing else :) .max -- Max Romantschuk http://max.nma.fi/
Re: M/T help thanks
2012-09-15 by ohdotoh
Exactly why I joined this group. Useful information. Thanks! -- Sean --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:
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> > I just got the multimeter out. The following numbering is looking > >>AT<< the 8 pin din plug [male] with the notch at top [V]. (Periods > are used for white space so. Pin 8 is actually between the 7-1 and 6- > 2 rows.) This would correspond with counterclockwise numbering on > the 8 pin din recepticle [female] on the CZ-5000. > > .....V..... > ..7.....1.. > 6....8....2 > ..5.....3.. > .....4..... > > white remote switch sleeve - 1 > white remote switch tip - 7 > [submini] > > black playback sleeve - 4 > black playback tip - 3 > [mini] > > red record sleeve - 4 > red record tip - 5 > [mini] > > Note the symmetry: > > pin 3 = play signal > pin 4 = play/record common > pin 5 = record signal > > pins 1 & 7 = remote switch > > I suppose if you accidentally wire it as a mirror image, just switch > the play and record plugs rather than take apart and rewire the whole > thing (assuming the remote switch is a simple open/close switch with > no polarity). > > Hope this makes sense; hope this helps. > > Unfortunately, I couldn't find my cz data tapes. I did find a KORG > EX-800 tape, tough. > > --Steve > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "texhand" <texhand@y...> wrote: > > Thanks for the responses. The schematic for connecting the 8 pins > > to an in and out on a recorder would be nice. I would really like > > the ability to store sequences to a tape interface.. > > Thanks for the imput! >
Re: M/T help thanks
2012-09-18 by steve_the_composer
Nice to know that even after 8 years, the info is still helpful. Steve --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "ohdotoh" <sean@...> wrote:
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> > Exactly why I joined this group. Useful information. > Thanks! > -- Sean > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@> wrote: > > > > I just got the multimeter out. The following numbering is looking > > >>AT<< the 8 pin din plug [male] with the notch at top [V]. (Periods > > are used for white space so. Pin 8 is actually between the 7-1 and 6- > > 2 rows.) This would correspond with counterclockwise numbering on > > the 8 pin din recepticle [female] on the CZ-5000. > > > > .....V..... > > ..7.....1.. > > 6....8....2 > > ..5.....3.. > > .....4..... > > > > white remote switch sleeve - 1 > > white remote switch tip - 7 > > [submini] > > > > black playback sleeve - 4 > > black playback tip - 3 > > [mini] > > > > red record sleeve - 4 > > red record tip - 5 > > [mini] > > > > Note the symmetry: > > > > pin 3 = play signal > > pin 4 = play/record common > > pin 5 = record signal > > > > pins 1 & 7 = remote switch > > > > I suppose if you accidentally wire it as a mirror image, just switch > > the play and record plugs rather than take apart and rewire the whole > > thing (assuming the remote switch is a simple open/close switch with > > no polarity). > > > > Hope this makes sense; hope this helps. > > > > Unfortunately, I couldn't find my cz data tapes. I did find a KORG > > EX-800 tape, tough. > > > > --Steve > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "texhand" <texhand@y...> wrote: > > > Thanks for the responses. The schematic for connecting the 8 pins > > > to an in and out on a recorder would be nice. I would really like > > > the ability to store sequences to a tape interface.. > > > Thanks for the imput! > > >