Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

has anyone experienced any problems with midi notes on your vz?
sometimes when i play different notes - the vz doesn´t follow
immediatly and plays just the same note a few times. also portamento
suddenly is on, when switching to other voice-patches...

>has anyone experienced any problems with midi notes on your vz?
>sometimes when i play different notes - the vz doesn\ufffdt follow
>immediatly and plays just the same note a few times. also portamento
>suddenly is on, when switching to other voice-patches...

I haven't noticed any of this.  It's possible that you have an early OS 
revision or something in yours.

I think I had that when bombarding the synth with certain controllers. Maybe the 
VZ is somehow connected to a synth sending certain messages like active sense, 
for instance the K5000...

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> >has anyone experienced any problems with midi notes on your vz?
> >sometimes when i play different notes - the vz doesn´t follow
> >immediatly and plays just the same note a few times. also portamento
> >suddenly is on, when switching to other voice-patches...
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> OS revision or something in yours.
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>I think I had that when bombarding the synth with certain controllers. 
>Maybe the
>VZ is somehow connected to a synth sending certain messages like active 
>sense,
>for instance the K5000...

Yeah, that can make a bunch of stuff screw up or crash.  I remember 
purposefully doing it once, by creating a really slow sequence (20 bpm) on 
an EPS with a bunch of mashed keys and fast controller data (pitch and mod 
wheels, plus foot pedal) and gradually speeding it up until I started 
getting error messages like * SYSTEM ERROR * on the modules I had hooked up, 
finally crashing the EPS too.

yes, indeed the k5k is the masterkeys for my humble gear. Also the vz
is connected to a midi thrubox. Well i guess the vz is not very
"up-to-date" and can´t handle that much midi data ( i often use atari
editor too ). Maybe i should do reset on it too... As you mentioned it
- how can i see which OS version is on my unit?

best,
phono



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> I think I had that when bombarding the synth with certain
controllers. Maybe the 
> VZ is somehow connected to a synth sending certain messages like
active sense, 

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> > >has anyone experienced any problems with midi notes on your vz?
> > >sometimes when i play different notes - the vz doesn´t follow
> > >immediatly and plays just the same note a few times. also portamento
> > >suddenly is on, when switching to other voice-patches...
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> > OS revision or something in yours.
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Now that you mention it, I seem to recall a few months ago (when 
people were posting VZ patches) having the problem of a sluggish 
response. I don't recall the other problems, or how I resolved it--
but I did resolve it. 

I suggest loading in patches (VC+OP) that don't have the problem, 
then re-loading patches that were problematic.  Sorry I can't be 
more helpful, but if your VZ was OK before, I don't think its a 
faulty OS.

If I remember more of the details of the problem and solution, I 
will post them.  Let us know if you get it solved by loading a good 
bank first.

--Steve

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> 
wrote:

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> has anyone experienced any problems with midi notes on your vz?
> sometimes when i play different notes - the vz doesn´t follow
> immediatly and plays just the same note a few times. also
> portamento suddenly is on, when switching to other voice-patches...

well as you now mention it, these things seem to happen only on a few
patches. especially one patch does very strange reactions on midi
notes. so it maybe has something to do with the editor software i used
on different patches. Is it possible that these patches contain bogus
data? I doubt there is a setting which cause these odd note
behavier... i`ll have a closer look on this soon. thanks ! phono :]


--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
wrote:

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> Now that you mention it, I seem to recall a few months ago (when 
> people were posting VZ patches) having the problem of a sluggish 
> response. I don't recall the other problems, or how I resolved it--
> but I did resolve it. 
> 
> I suggest loading in patches (VC+OP) that don't have the problem, 
> then re-loading patches that were problematic.  Sorry I can't be 
> more helpful, but if your VZ was OK before, I don't think its a 
> faulty OS.
> 
> If I remember more of the details of the problem and solution, I 
> will post them.  Let us know if you get it solved by loading a good 
> bank first.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > has anyone experienced any problems with midi notes on your vz?
> > sometimes when i play different notes - the vz doesn´t follow
> > immediatly and plays just the same note a few times. also
> > portamento suddenly is on, when switching to other voice-patches...

>yes, indeed the k5k is the masterkeys for my humble gear. Also the vz
>is connected to a midi thrubox. Well i guess the vz is not very
>"up-to-date" and can\ufffdt handle that much midi data ( i often use atari
>editor too ). Maybe i should do reset on it too... As you mentioned it
>- how can i see which OS version is on my unit?

As far as I know, Casio didn't offer OS updates.  The ROM chips inside 
aren't even socketed (I'm pretty sure at least) which would make it very 
inconvenient to upgrade.  This isn't to say that there weren't new OS 
revisions and bugfixes during the life of the VZ, but at least there were no 
official updates, and any changes that were made weren't publicized.

yep, never saw an update for casios on the net, too. I was just
wondering how to see a posiible os version, though.... it´s somewhat a
shame that casio went out of the synth buisness -i think the vz was
their nicest synth. also it was one of their last developments i think 
 
I can confirm now, some of the bugs on my vz seems to come from faulty
patches, which i programmed with atari crap... i just opened these,
and they contain odd stuff... Seems he doesn´t like (controller)data
that much anyway

best...
..phono



 >editor too ). Maybe i should do reset on it too... As you mentioned it
> >- how can i see which OS version is on my unit?
> 
> As far as I know, Casio didn't offer OS updates.  The ROM chips inside 
> aren't even socketed (I'm pretty sure at least) which would make it
very 
> inconvenient to upgrade.  This isn't to say that there weren't new OS 
> revisions and bugfixes during the life of the VZ, but at least there
were no 
> official updates, and any changes that were made weren't publicized.