Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Be aware that some or most of the sounds you will hear were never
before accomplished by any known programmer until now. I think this
is only the tip of the iceberg and what the VZ sounds should sound
like. This will finally breathe new life into your old VZ. Sounds you
never heard before or since. This is only in sys ex files so download
them and enjoy them while you can. Go to Files, go to VZ-Sounds and 
you will see CBsnds1 that's it! Another volume of sounds will be
out sooner or later. Feedback would be appreciated. Enjoy.

Hi Clifton,

would you please stop the double/tripple whatever postings! I guess we don't have 
that much VZ users, so please be patient...

I hardly use sounds I haven't programmed myself, so trying out other persons 
sounds isn't having top priority for me...

Still I think some ppl. are thankfull for a couple of new VZ patches...

...Summa



On 29 Jan 2005 at 23:58, Clifton Bryant wrote:

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> 
> Be aware that some or most of the sounds you will hear were never
> before accomplished by any known programmer until now. I think this is
> only the tip of the iceberg and what the VZ sounds should sound like.
> This will finally breathe new life into your old VZ. Sounds you never
> heard before or since. This is only in sys ex files so download them
> and enjoy them while you can. Go to Files, go to VZ-Sounds and you
> will see CBsnds1 that's it! Another volume of sounds will be out
> sooner or later. Feedback would be appreciated. Enjoy.
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Hi Summa,

I thought it didn't go through the first time. Sorry about that....

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@f...> wrote:
> Hi Clifton,
> 
> would you please stop the double/tripple whatever postings! I guess 
we don't have 
> that much VZ users, so please be patient...
> 
> I hardly use sounds I haven't programmed myself, so trying out 
other persons 
> sounds isn't having top priority for me...
> 
> Still I think some ppl. are thankfull for a couple of new VZ 
patches...
> 
> ...Summa
> 
> 
> 
> On 29 Jan 2005 at 23:58, Clifton Bryant wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Be aware that some or most of the sounds you will hear were never
> > before accomplished by any known programmer until now. I think 
this is
> > only the tip of the iceberg and what the VZ sounds should sound 
like.
> > This will finally breathe new life into your old VZ. Sounds you 
never
> > heard before or since. This is only in sys ex files so download 
them
> > and enjoy them while you can. Go to Files, go to VZ-Sounds and you
> > will see CBsnds1 that's it! Another volume of sounds will be out
> > sooner or later. Feedback would be appreciated. Enjoy.
> > 
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Hello Casio VZ-programmers, hello Clifton,

  Clifton patches are very interesting. The voices mostly use complex
variations of lines in int phase or ring modulation mode wich are used
 as the (ext.) phase other lines. 

  A good starting point to inspect the voices is Voice A-3: MODELD
VOICE. To see how effective the used algorithm is you can activate A
ENV BIAS and set the Sensitivity to 99 in the effect menu 04 MOD
WHEEL. Now you can control the amplitude of  module 1 with the Mod
Wheel. Drastic changes of the Sound can be heard.

  Switch to voice edit mode. Most of the modules are switched off but
the modueles m2 and m3 are nevertheless active. If you change their
waveform or detune them it shows how they have effect on other
modules. 

  I never thought that it would be possible to create a kind of
filtered noise. Clifton found a way to do so. You can hear it in
several of his wind, ocean, jet or flute patches. It's mainly based on
sine waves. Even if you know the trick it is hard to tune the modules
to avoid tonal aspects. Thank you for this, Clifton.

  Clifton, do you use any editing software? It seems so to me because
the patches look so cleaned up. Ineffective parms often are
initialized, envelopes don't use more steps than needed.

  Although all your patches are very interesting most of them aren't
easy to use for me. Maybe they are too special. They don't follow my
playing, I have to follow them. (I hope this is not a too german
english).

  I am waiting for your next sysex file.

m!cha



  
  

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Clifton Bryant" <cliffe123@y...>
wrote:
> 
> Be aware that some or most of the sounds you will hear were never
> before accomplished by any known programmer until now. I think this
> is only the tip of the iceberg and what the VZ sounds should sound
> like. This will finally breathe new life into your old VZ. Sounds
you
> never heard before or since. This is only in sys ex files so
download

> them and enjoy them while you can. Go to Files, go to VZ-Sounds and 
> you will see CBsnds1 that's it! Another volume of sounds will be
> out sooner or later. Feedback would be appreciated. Enjoy.

Hi michaw,

I like to take the time to generally thank you for the kind words:)
Anyway all my sounds were programmed on a VZ-1 and I use no editing 
software what so ever. It's the love of what I love doing the most 
out of my VZ and had it for over 15 years. (Still working great 
including my RAM cards). It just comes to show you what you can do 
with a VZ-1 and what is it's limitations? Again, thank you for the 
comments of my sounds and hopefully I may come up with more sounds in 
the future. Maybe sooner:-D

PS...I got one vz-1 and two vz-10m's




--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "michaw57" <m.wende@t...> wrote:
> 
> Hello Casio VZ-programmers, hello Clifton,
> 
>   Clifton patches are very interesting. The voices mostly use 
complex
> variations of lines in int phase or ring modulation mode wich are 
used
>  as the (ext.) phase other lines. 
> 
>   A good starting point to inspect the voices is Voice A-3: MODELD
> VOICE. To see how effective the used algorithm is you can activate A
> ENV BIAS and set the Sensitivity to 99 in the effect menu 04 MOD
> WHEEL. Now you can control the amplitude of  module 1 with the Mod
> Wheel. Drastic changes of the Sound can be heard.
> 
>   Switch to voice edit mode. Most of the modules are switched off 
but
> the modueles m2 and m3 are nevertheless active. If you change their
> waveform or detune them it shows how they have effect on other
> modules. 
> 
>   I never thought that it would be possible to create a kind of
> filtered noise. Clifton found a way to do so. You can hear it in
> several of his wind, ocean, jet or flute patches. It's mainly based 
on
> sine waves. Even if you know the trick it is hard to tune the 
modules
> to avoid tonal aspects. Thank you for this, Clifton.
> 
>   Clifton, do you use any editing software? It seems so to me 
because
> the patches look so cleaned up. Ineffective parms often are
> initialized, envelopes don't use more steps than needed.
> 
>   Although all your patches are very interesting most of them aren't
> easy to use for me. Maybe they are too special. They don't follow my
> playing, I have to follow them. (I hope this is not a too german
> english).
> 
>   I am waiting for your next sysex file.
> 
> m!cha
> 
> 
> 
>   
>   
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Clifton Bryant" <cliffe123@y...>
> wrote:
> > 
> > Be aware that some or most of the sounds you will hear were never
> > before accomplished by any known programmer until now. I think 
this
> > is only the tip of the iceberg and what the VZ sounds should sound
> > like. This will finally breathe new life into your old VZ. Sounds
> you
> > never heard before or since. This is only in sys ex files so
> download
> > them and enjoy them while you can. Go to Files, go to VZ-Sounds 
and 
> > you will see CBsnds1 that's it! Another volume of sounds will be
> > out sooner or later. Feedback would be appreciated. Enjoy.

> PS...I got one vz-1 and two vz-10m's
thats crazy :)

i just listened to your patches and those soundeffects are fun. This
opmem-patch on a3 is well done. I did this kind of modwheel fx on a
few other sounds sofar, but that voicesound from you is very nice indeed.

thanks again for the patches 

phono.




--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Clifton Bryant" <cliffe123@y...> wrote:

> 
> Hi michaw,
> 
> I like to take the time to generally thank you for the kind words:)
> Anyway all my sounds were programmed on a VZ-1 and I use no editing 
> software what so ever. It's the love of what I love doing the most 
> out of my VZ and had it for over 15 years. (Still working great 
> including my RAM cards). It just comes to show you what you can do 
> with a VZ-1 and what is it's limitations? Again, thank you for the 
> comments of my sounds and hopefully I may come up with more sounds in 
> the future. Maybe sooner:-D
> 
> PS...I got one vz-1 and two vz-10m's
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "michaw57" <m.wende@t...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Casio VZ-programmers, hello Clifton,
> > 
> >   Clifton patches are very interesting. The voices mostly use 
> complex
> > variations of lines in int phase or ring modulation mode wich are 
> used
> >  as the (ext.) phase other lines. 
> > 
> >   A good starting point to inspect the voices is Voice A-3: MODELD
> > VOICE. To see how effective the used algorithm is you can activate A
> > ENV BIAS and set the Sensitivity to 99 in the effect menu 04 MOD
> > WHEEL. Now you can control the amplitude of  module 1 with the Mod
> > Wheel. Drastic changes of the Sound can be heard.
> > 
> >   Switch to voice edit mode. Most of the modules are switched off 
> but
> > the modueles m2 and m3 are nevertheless active. If you change their
> > waveform or detune them it shows how they have effect on other
> > modules. 
> > 
> >   I never thought that it would be possible to create a kind of
> > filtered noise. Clifton found a way to do so. You can hear it in
> > several of his wind, ocean, jet or flute patches. It's mainly based 
> on
> > sine waves. Even if you know the trick it is hard to tune the 
> modules
> > to avoid tonal aspects. Thank you for this, Clifton.
> > 
> >   Clifton, do you use any editing software? It seems so to me 
> because
> > the patches look so cleaned up. Ineffective parms often are
> > initialized, envelopes don't use more steps than needed.
> > 
> >   Although all your patches are very interesting most of them aren't
> > easy to use for me. Maybe they are too special. They don't follow my
> > playing, I have to follow them. (I hope this is not a too german
> > english).
> > 
> >   I am waiting for your next sysex file.
> > 
> > m!cha
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> >   
> > 
> > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Clifton Bryant" <cliffe123@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Be aware that some or most of the sounds you will hear were never
> > > before accomplished by any known programmer until now. I think 
> this
> > > is only the tip of the iceberg and what the VZ sounds should sound
> > > like. This will finally breathe new life into your old VZ. Sounds
> > you
> > > never heard before or since. This is only in sys ex files so
> > download
> > > them and enjoy them while you can. Go to Files, go to VZ-Sounds 
> and 
> > > you will see CBsnds1 that's it! Another volume of sounds will be
> > > out sooner or later. Feedback would be appreciated. Enjoy.

You have done some very masterful VZ programming.  Thanks for 
sharing them.  --Steve

Thanks very much:) I figured this this would be something different
for a change and maybe more to come. I recently brought a new Fruity 
Loops Studio to go along with my VZ synths and I don't think I will 
ever retire them as I did with my drum machines lol. Well thanks 
again everyone;)



--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:

> 
> You have done some very masterful VZ programming.  Thanks for 
> sharing them.  --Steve

hi everyone

forgive me, but i'm pretty ignorant about my second-hand vz-10m.  i 
downloaded Cliff's sounds and tried to send them with a mac os X app 
called Sysex Librarian.  it usually works fine on my other racks 
[mu100r, tx81z], but even after locating 'internal mem protect off', 
although sysex lib thinks it's sent the patches, they don't actually 
load on my vz.

does anyone have any hints?  i will try sending them from a sequencer, 
but i doubt there'll be any difference to the result..

thanks

dominic

p.s.  anyone out there using motu software?  does anyone have a midnam 
file so i can enter and view patch names on my vz instead of 'patch 
1... 128'?  casio only has a middev file in the devices folder, which 
seems to be generic for all possible casio synths...

On 29 Jan 2005, at 23:45, Clifton Bryant wrote:

>
>  Be aware that some or most of the sounds you will hear were never
>  before accomplished by any known programmer until now. I think this
>  is only the tip of the iceberg and what the VZ sounds should sound
>  like. This will finally breathe new life into your old VZ. Sounds you
>  never heard before or since. This is only in sys ex files so download
>  them and enjoy them while you can. Another volume of sounds will be
>  out sooner or later. Feedback would be appreciated. Enjoy.
>
>
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Are you getting an error message on the VZ-10m when you try to send 
the patches? If so, what is the exact wording of the message? (That 
may be a clue to the cause of the problem.)

Also, can your software receive patches from the VZ-10m (manually or 
automatically).

--Steve 

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, dom@m... wrote:
> hi everyone
> 
> forgive me, but i'm pretty ignorant about my second-hand vz-10m.  i 
> downloaded Cliff's sounds and tried to send them with a mac os X 
app 
> called Sysex Librarian.  it usually works fine on my other racks 
> [mu100r, tx81z], but even after locating 'internal mem protect 
off', 
> although sysex lib thinks it's sent the patches, they don't 
actually 
> load on my vz.
> 
> does anyone have any hints?  i will try sending them from a 
sequencer, 

> but i doubt there'll be any difference to the result..
> 
> thanks
> 
> dominic

This probably won't help but I also use Sysex Librarian and found it
quite tricky. You have to make sure that you have the right
voice/voice+ops etc. setting selected on the VZ and hit load on the VZ
to get it waiting before hitting play on the Mac.

Apologies if this is obvious (it took me a while :)

Fritzi



--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, dom@m... wrote:

> hi everyone
> 
> forgive me, but i'm pretty ignorant about my second-hand vz-10m.  i 
> downloaded Cliff's sounds and tried to send them with a mac os X app 
> called Sysex Librarian.  it usually works fine on my other racks 
> [mu100r, tx81z], but even after locating 'internal mem protect off', 
> although sysex lib thinks it's sent the patches, they don't actually 
> load on my vz.
> 
> does anyone have any hints?  i will try sending them from a sequencer, 
> but i doubt there'll be any difference to the result..
> 
> thanks
> 
> dominic
> 
> p.s.  anyone out there using motu software?  does anyone have a midnam 
> file so i can enter and view patch names on my vz instead of 'patch 
> 1... 128'?  casio only has a middev file in the devices folder, which 
> seems to be generic for all possible casio synths...
> 
> On 29 Jan 2005, at 23:45, Clifton Bryant wrote:
> 
> >
> >  Be aware that some or most of the sounds you will hear were never
> >  before accomplished by any known programmer until now. I think this
> >  is only the tip of the iceberg and what the VZ sounds should sound
> >  like. This will finally breathe new life into your old VZ. Sounds you
> >  never heard before or since. This is only in sys ex files so download
> >  them and enjoy them while you can. Another volume of sounds will be
> >  out sooner or later. Feedback would be appreciated. Enjoy.
> >
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fritzi!

what do you mean 'this won't help'?  this is probably exactly what i 
needed to know!

i don't have time to try it out, but i'm glad to hear there's more to 
test and that there is at least one other mac os x user out there using 
sysex lib.

thanks!

dominic

On 15 Mar 2005, at 17:42, fritzidachl wrote:

>
>
> This probably won't help but I also use Sysex Librarian and found it
> quite tricky. You have to make sure that you have the right
> voice/voice+ops etc. setting selected on the VZ and hit load on the VZ
> to get it waiting before hitting play on the Mac.
>
> Apologies if this is obvious (it took me a while :)
>
> Fritzi
>
>
>
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, dom@m... wrote:
>> hi everyone
>>
>> forgive me, but i'm pretty ignorant about my second-hand vz-10m.  i
>> downloaded Cliff's sounds and tried to send them with a mac os X app
>> called Sysex Librarian.  it usually works fine on my other racks
>> [mu100r, tx81z], but even after locating 'internal mem protect off',
>> although sysex lib thinks it's sent the patches, they don't actually
>> load on my vz.
>>
>> does anyone have any hints?  i will try sending them from a sequencer,
>> but i doubt there'll be any difference to the result..
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> dominic
>>
>> p.s.  anyone out there using motu software?  does anyone have a midnam
>> file so i can enter and view patch names on my vz instead of 'patch
>> 1... 128'?  casio only has a middev file in the devices folder, which
>> seems to be generic for all possible casio synths...
>>
>> On 29 Jan 2005, at 23:45, Clifton Bryant wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  Be aware that some or most of the sounds you will hear were never
>>>  before accomplished by any known programmer until now. I think this
>>>  is only the tip of the iceberg and what the VZ sounds should sound
>>>  like. This will finally breathe new life into your old VZ. Sounds 
>>> you
>>>  never heard before or since. This is only in sys ex files so 
>>> download
>>>  them and enjoy them while you can. Another volume of sounds will be
>>>  out sooner or later. Feedback would be appreciated. Enjoy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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