Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

I was in the process of writing a little program that will let me 
manually edit CZ patch dumps.  I want the program to be able to take 
advantage of any known hidden features, so I was researching them.  
I read about extra waves and extra modulations on the sealed 
website.  After reading them I sort of understood what he was 
talking about, but really it left me with a lot of questions.  So I 
did my own very thorough exploration of these hidden features.  I 
have documented everything I found on my website:

http://www.kasploosh.com/11801/11800-CZ1_spelunking.html

Some of you might be interested, but it is a little technical, and 
there's a lot of information to go through.  It makes sense to me 
after having done all the work, but it might not make sense to 
anyone else.  Feedback is welcome.

The webpages document all of the basic waveforms as they actually 
exist in the CZ, how the "window function" works, what the window 
function does to different waveforms, extra types of modulation 
available, and extra types of line select available.

As I said, lots of information.

Man, just briefly looked at your work and it looks top drawer stuff.
I hope you don't mind I am going to print it out and keep it and use it.
I made minor discoveries myself when I had just a CZ-3000 and I would mess
with the sys-ex values to get weird things going on, but I had no idea the
rabbit hole goes this deep. You explain things with greater clarity than
Sealed and your website is beautiful in design and conception. I don't think
I'm the only CZ-nut who will appreciate your hard work. Thanks
.
----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Fulfil Objective" <kasploosh@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:06 AM
Subject: [CZsynth] CZ-1 Easter Eggs


> I was in the process of writing a little program that will let me
> manually edit CZ patch dumps.  I want the program to be able to take
> advantage of any known hidden features, so I was researching them.
> I read about extra waves and extra modulations on the sealed
> website.  After reading them I sort of understood what he was
> talking about, but really it left me with a lot of questions.  So I
> did my own very thorough exploration of these hidden features.  I
> have documented everything I found on my website:
>
> http://www.kasploosh.com/11801/11800-CZ1_spelunking.html
>
> Some of you might be interested, but it is a little technical, and
> there's a lot of information to go through.  It makes sense to me
> after having done all the work, but it might not make sense to
> anyone else.  Feedback is welcome.
>
> The webpages document all of the basic waveforms as they actually
> exist in the CZ, how the "window function" works, what the window
> function does to different waveforms, extra types of modulation
> available, and extra types of line select available.
>
> As I said, lots of information.
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Here here!
   
  Please send out an update if you make a cool program that can easily exploit these hidden settings along with the standard stuff.

Tim Stevens <tim@...> wrote:
          Man, just briefly looked at your work and it looks top drawer stuff.
I hope you don't mind I am going to print it out and keep it and use it.
I made minor discoveries myself when I had just a CZ-3000 and I would mess
with the sys-ex values to get weird things going on, but I had no idea the
rabbit hole goes this deep. You explain things with greater clarity than
Sealed and your website is beautiful in design and conception. I don't think
I'm the only CZ-nut who will appreciate your hard work. Thanks
.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fulfil Objective" <kasploosh@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:06 AM
Subject: [CZsynth] CZ-1 Easter Eggs

> I was in the process of writing a little program that will let me
> manually edit CZ patch dumps. I want the program to be able to take
> advantage of any known hidden features, so I was researching them.
> I read about extra waves and extra modulations on the sealed
> website. After reading them I sort of understood what he was
> talking about, but really it left me with a lot of questions. So I
> did my own very thorough exploration of these hidden features. I
> have documented everything I found on my website:
>
> http://www.kasploosh.com/11801/11800-CZ1_spelunking.html
>
> Some of you might be interested, but it is a little technical, and
> there's a lot of information to go through. It makes sense to me
> after having done all the work, but it might not make sense to
> anyone else. Feedback is welcome.
>
> The webpages document all of the basic waveforms as they actually
> exist in the CZ, how the "window function" works, what the window
> function does to different waveforms, extra types of modulation
> available, and extra types of line select available.
>
> As I said, lots of information.
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



                         

       
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Very nice site!!!

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2007/12/16, Fulfil Objective <kasploosh@...>:
>
>   I was in the process of writing a little program that will let me
> manually edit CZ patch dumps. I want the program to be able to take
> advantage of any known hidden features, so I was researching them.
> I read about extra waves and extra modulations on the sealed
> website. After reading them I sort of understood what he was
> talking about, but really it left me with a lot of questions. So I
> did my own very thorough exploration of these hidden features. I
> have documented everything I found on my website:
>
> http://www.kasploosh.com/11801/11800-CZ1_spelunking.html
>
> Some of you might be interested, but it is a little technical, and
> there's a lot of information to go through. It makes sense to me
> after having done all the work, but it might not make sense to
> anyone else. Feedback is welcome.
>
> The webpages document all of the basic waveforms as they actually
> exist in the CZ, how the "window function" works, what the window
> function does to different waveforms, extra types of modulation
> available, and extra types of line select available.
>
> As I said, lots of information.
>
> 
>



-- 
Patrick Wichrowski

tecladista e maluco de plantão
www.myspace.com/patrickwichrowski


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Excellent work kasploosh! Thanks.

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Fulfil Objective" <kasploosh@...> wrote:
>
> I was in the process of writing

...

DAMNED! I sold my CZ one year ago thinking everything was said, played
and explored. I was a little bit bored after 17 years.

Now I have to check eBay again :-)

BRILLIANT WORK. Amazing!
Keep on exploring and remember: Always play LOUD.

Cosmo
www.cosmosynthesizer.de

I'm glad you guys find that stuff interesting.  All those test are
somewhat overkill, but that's what it takes for me to make sense of
it.  I'm definitely interested in using those extra waves, windows,
and modulation, so I'm looking at making some kind of homebrew
computer application that can make use of them.  I will definitely
share it when/if it ever happens.

Also, there's a lot of bytes left in a sysex message that haven't been
fully tested.  There might still be some interesting things hiding out!

Wow!!! Great work documenting this!!! Any sort of editor for the CZ-1 
would be awesome. I use Unisyn and Midiquest and had to get a hack for 
each one to work at all with this synth. Midquest still can't do the Op 
Memory and Unisyn will not work with XP. Loads of fun!

Remember the envelopes from the front panel only use 0-99. Sysex can 
send 0-127 and the synth accepts it. This can really bring out the 
harmonics and with all the wave and window functions you found the new 
sound possibilities are almost endless. I'm willing to bet with your 
sysex expertise there's more hacks in there someplace... 

Fran

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Fulfil Objective" <kasploosh@...> 
wrote:
>
> I'm glad you guys find that stuff interesting.  All those test are
> somewhat overkill, but that's what it takes for me to make sense of
> it.  I'm definitely interested in using those extra waves, windows,
> and modulation, so I'm looking at making some kind of homebrew
> computer application that can make use of them.  I will definitely
> share it when/if it ever happens.
> 
> Also, there's a lot of bytes left in a sysex message that haven't been
> fully tested.  There might still be some interesting things hiding 
out!
>

Let me know if you want to tackle the CZ-5000 Sequencer Memory Data. 
If so, I will put it on my agenda this week to look for my original 
docs.   

For background, see:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth/message/1692 

--Steve

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Fulfil Objective" <kasploosh@...> 
wrote:
>
> I was in the process of writing a little program that will let me 
> manually edit CZ patch dumps.  I want the program to be able to 
take 

> advantage of any known hidden features, so I was researching them.  
> I read about extra waves and extra modulations on the sealed 
> website.  After reading them I sort of understood what he was 
> talking about, but really it left me with a lot of questions.  So I 
> did my own very thorough exploration of these hidden features.  I 
> have documented everything I found on my website:
> 
> http://www.kasploosh.com/11801/11800-CZ1_spelunking.html
> 
> Some of you might be interested, but it is a little technical, and 
> there's a lot of information to go through.  It makes sense to me 
> after having done all the work, but it might not make sense to 
> anyone else.  Feedback is welcome.
> 
> The webpages document all of the basic waveforms as they actually 
> exist in the CZ, how the "window function" works, what the window 
> function does to different waveforms, extra types of modulation 
> available, and extra types of line select available.
> 
> As I said, lots of information.
>

Yes, I have "heard" you say before in previous posts that the envelope
data can go beyond what is programmable using the panel.  I think I
will do some sort of test of these areas to probe what the limits are.
 I see in the sysex documentation how it could be possible.  I will
try to take some time and make sense of it.



--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@...> wrote:

>
> Wow!!! Great work documenting this!!! Any sort of editor for the CZ-1 
> would be awesome. I use Unisyn and Midiquest and had to get a hack for 
> each one to work at all with this synth. Midquest still can't do the Op 
> Memory and Unisyn will not work with XP. Loads of fun!
> 
> Remember the envelopes from the front panel only use 0-99. Sysex can 
> send 0-127 and the synth accepts it. This can really bring out the 
> harmonics and with all the wave and window functions you found the new 
> sound possibilities are almost endless. I'm willing to bet with your 
> sysex expertise there's more hacks in there someplace... 
> 
> Fran
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Fulfil Objective" <kasploosh@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm glad you guys find that stuff interesting.  All those test are
> > somewhat overkill, but that's what it takes for me to make sense of
> > it.  I'm definitely interested in using those extra waves, windows,
> > and modulation, so I'm looking at making some kind of homebrew
> > computer application that can make use of them.  I will definitely
> > share it when/if it ever happens.
> > 
> > Also, there's a lot of bytes left in a sysex message that haven't been
> > fully tested.  There might still be some interesting things hiding 
> out!
> >
>

I think I don't need those right now.  I'm trying to keep the scope of
what I'm doing somewhat limited.  If the scope is too broad the
project will seem impossible and I'll never do it.

However it's great to know that you have original CZ-5000 sysex docs.
 I was thinking about how impossible my work on the CZ-1 would have
been without documentation.  If I owned a CZ-5000, I would probably be
begging for a scan of the sequencer docs.

So, in the interest of everyone in this group and not just me, it
might be a good idea to scan those things in and make them available?
 I would never have started what I'm doing without CZ-1 sysex docs.


--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:

>
> Let me know if you want to tackle the CZ-5000 Sequencer Memory Data. 
> If so, I will put it on my agenda this week to look for my original 
> docs.   
> 
> For background, see:
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth/message/1692 
> 
> --Steve
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Fulfil Objective" <kasploosh@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I was in the process of writing a little program that will let me 
> > manually edit CZ patch dumps.  I want the program to be able to 
> take 
> > advantage of any known hidden features, so I was researching them.  
> > I read about extra waves and extra modulations on the sealed 
> > website.  After reading them I sort of understood what he was 
> > talking about, but really it left me with a lot of questions.  So I 
> > did my own very thorough exploration of these hidden features.  I 
> > have documented everything I found on my website:
> > 
> > http://www.kasploosh.com/11801/11800-CZ1_spelunking.html
> > 
> > Some of you might be interested, but it is a little technical, and 
> > there's a lot of information to go through.  It makes sense to me 
> > after having done all the work, but it might not make sense to 
> > anyone else.  Feedback is welcome.
> > 
> > The webpages document all of the basic waveforms as they actually 
> > exist in the CZ, how the "window function" works, what the window 
> > function does to different waveforms, extra types of modulation 
> > available, and extra types of line select available.
> > 
> > As I said, lots of information.
> >
>