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Good ol' FZ-1/10/20 disk drive issues

Good ol' FZ-1/10/20 disk drive issues

2009-08-26 by farrfromit

Owning a couple of CZ's and a few FZ's already, swore I belonged to this group already.  Guess not, so first post ...

Recently, I picked up another cheap FZ-20 in the hopes that this one had a working disk drive.  No dice.  That makes 2 FZ-20's and an FZ-10 (and an FZ-1 before that, RIP), all sitting in storage collecting dust.

It's cool that butchy.com has the drive specifics listed, but while appreciated, the directions are obtuse and near-impossible to follow.    The most recent post about it here was a year ago, when Joaquim seemed to have some success converting a non-Shugart drive:  http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth/message/3551 .  Unfortunately, I can't determine if he ever posted those directions / pictures.

The most recent and interesting finding on the web was from earlier this year, discussing Shugart-friendly emulators: http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=45592   Again, a lot of talk, but no one really seemed to put it into actual play.

I guarantee I'm not alone in this ... in fact, I'd wager easily over half FZ's out there now have dead and/or useless drives.  So, I'm guessing at this point, my best luck would be to buying a standard 3.5" drive and building the conversion cable.  Has anyone here done this successfully, and are willing to help?   Huge, huge appreciation here if so.

Re: [CZsynth] Good ol' FZ-1/10/20 disk drive issues

2009-08-26 by jammie

your biggest problem is getting a drive with the spead required a teac -235hf-c929 has the jumpers for setting ds0 and ry on pin 34 so you would not need to change the cable but weather it can spin at 360 i dont know the pdf says 300 but weather you can remove w61 i dont know the drives sell for $34 new they are industrial drives for old legacy non pc hardware like sowing machines cnc and the like
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: farrfromit 
  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:45 AM
  Subject: [CZsynth] Good ol' FZ-1/10/20 disk drive issues


    Owning a couple of CZ's and a few FZ's already, swore I belonged to this group already. Guess not, so first post ...

  Recently, I picked up another cheap FZ-20 in the hopes that this one had a working disk drive. No dice. That makes 2 FZ-20's and an FZ-10 (and an FZ-1 before that, RIP), all sitting in storage collecting dust.

  It's cool that butchy.com has the drive specifics listed, but while appreciated, the directions are obtuse and near-impossible to follow. The most recent post about it here was a year ago, when Joaquim seemed to have some success converting a non-Shugart drive: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth/message/3551 . Unfortunately, I can't determine if he ever posted those directions / pictures.

  The most recent and interesting finding on the web was from earlier this year, discussing Shugart-friendly emulators: http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=45592 Again, a lot of talk, but no one really seemed to put it into actual play.

  I guarantee I'm not alone in this ... in fact, I'd wager easily over half FZ's out there now have dead and/or useless drives. So, I'm guessing at this point, my best luck would be to buying a standard 3.5" drive and building the conversion cable. Has anyone here done this successfully, and are willing to help? Huge, huge appreciation here if so.



  


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Re: [CZsynth] Good ol' FZ-1/10/20 disk drive issues

2009-08-26 by jammie

any chance of buying a fz20 off you to make the scsi circuit board for every one and ill give you a working fz1 drive i am also making the 4mb boards to fit in the expantion slot
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: farrfromit 
  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:45 AM
  Subject: [CZsynth] Good ol' FZ-1/10/20 disk drive issues


    Owning a couple of CZ's and a few FZ's already, swore I belonged to this group already. Guess not, so first post ...

  Recently, I picked up another cheap FZ-20 in the hopes that this one had a working disk drive. No dice. That makes 2 FZ-20's and an FZ-10 (and an FZ-1 before that, RIP), all sitting in storage collecting dust.

  It's cool that butchy.com has the drive specifics listed, but while appreciated, the directions are obtuse and near-impossible to follow. The most recent post about it here was a year ago, when Joaquim seemed to have some success converting a non-Shugart drive: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth/message/3551 . Unfortunately, I can't determine if he ever posted those directions / pictures.

  The most recent and interesting finding on the web was from earlier this year, discussing Shugart-friendly emulators: http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=45592 Again, a lot of talk, but no one really seemed to put it into actual play.

  I guarantee I'm not alone in this ... in fact, I'd wager easily over half FZ's out there now have dead and/or useless drives. So, I'm guessing at this point, my best luck would be to buying a standard 3.5" drive and building the conversion cable. Has anyone here done this successfully, and are willing to help? Huge, huge appreciation here if so.



  


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Re: [CZsynth] Good ol' FZ-1/10/20 disk drive issues

2009-08-26 by jammie

also the problem with the disk constanly running when the disk is in the drive is the same for the original drive aswell thats why they burnt out people for got to take out the floppy when not uploading sounds into the fz samplers
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: farrfromit 
  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:45 AM
  Subject: [CZsynth] Good ol' FZ-1/10/20 disk drive issues


    Owning a couple of CZ's and a few FZ's already, swore I belonged to this group already. Guess not, so first post ...

  Recently, I picked up another cheap FZ-20 in the hopes that this one had a working disk drive. No dice. That makes 2 FZ-20's and an FZ-10 (and an FZ-1 before that, RIP), all sitting in storage collecting dust.

  It's cool that butchy.com has the drive specifics listed, but while appreciated, the directions are obtuse and near-impossible to follow. The most recent post about it here was a year ago, when Joaquim seemed to have some success converting a non-Shugart drive: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth/message/3551 . Unfortunately, I can't determine if he ever posted those directions / pictures.

  The most recent and interesting finding on the web was from earlier this year, discussing Shugart-friendly emulators: http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=45592 Again, a lot of talk, but no one really seemed to put it into actual play.

  I guarantee I'm not alone in this ... in fact, I'd wager easily over half FZ's out there now have dead and/or useless drives. So, I'm guessing at this point, my best luck would be to buying a standard 3.5" drive and building the conversion cable. Has anyone here done this successfully, and are willing to help? Huge, huge appreciation here if so.



  


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