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Any help with an old CZ1000?

2012-06-19 by Scott

Hi folks, I just joined hoping for some help. A friend made me a "permanent loan" of an old CZ1000. It works but some of the membrane switches are either iffy are just don't work at all. 

I did search this forum for "membrane" and a couple of other things. While I did find a few posts like this one, I found no responses or help. 

So I'm just wondering, is there any conventional wisdom on this? Anything like "spray this stuff on them" or "you can replace them but it's a hassle" or "forget it, it's not worth it" etc.

All opinions are welcome.

Thanks! Scott

Re: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?

2012-06-20 by Lee Borrell

I've not actually looked into that - but I daresay trying to solve that one will be not the easiest thing in the world.Perhaps it would be possible to rip it out altogether and replace the whole thing with proper switches - a la CZ101?



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 From: Scott <gl2tgr@yahoo.com>
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2012, 21:58
Subject: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?

Hi folks, I just joined hoping for some help. A friend made me a "permanent loan" of an old CZ1000. It works but some of the membrane switches are either iffy are just don't work at all. 

I did search this forum for "membrane" and a couple of other things. While I did find a few posts like this one, I found no responses or help. 

So I'm just wondering, is there any conventional wisdom on this? Anything like "spray this stuff on them" or "you can replace them but it's a hassle" or "forget it, it's not worth it" etc.

All opinions are welcome.

Thanks! Scott

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Re: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?

2012-06-20 by bill bigrig

Yes, this is a problem with older Alesis sequncers. You take the switches apart. If they have little black "hockey pucks", you can buy a liquid to brush on and restore them. The poor man's solution is to use a paper punch, punch out a bunch of tin foil disks, and glue them to the black "pucks".
Rig


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From: Lee Borrell <templarser@....uk>
To: "CZsynth@yahoogroups.com" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?

I've not actually looked into that - but I daresay trying to solve that one will be not the easiest thing in the world.Perhaps it would be possible to rip it out altogether and replace the whole thing with proper switches - a la CZ101?

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From: Scott <gl2tgr@...>
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2012, 21:58
Subject: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?

Hi folks, I just joined hoping for some help. A friend made me a "permanent loan" of an old CZ1000. It works but some of the membrane switches are either iffy are just don't work at all. 

I did search this forum for "membrane" and a couple of other things. While I did find a few posts like this one, I found no responses or help. 

So I'm just wondering, is there any conventional wisdom on this? Anything like "spray this stuff on them" or "you can replace them but it's a hassle" or "forget it, it's not worth it" etc.

All opinions are welcome.

Thanks! Scott

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Re: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?

2012-06-20 by Lee Borrell

Hahah - the tin foil in the hole punch - I confess to being a poor man - I have got a few remote controls and Yamaha PSS going with that trick!



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To: "CZsynth@yahoogroups.com" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2012, 14:00
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?

Yes, this is a problem with older Alesis sequncers. You take the switches apart. If they have little black "hockey pucks", you can buy a liquid to brush on and restore them. The poor man's solution is to use a paper punch, punch out a bunch of tin foil disks, and glue them to the black "pucks".
Rig

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From: Lee Borrell <templarser@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "CZsynth@yahoogroups.com" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?

I've not actually looked into that - but I daresay trying to solve that one will be not the easiest thing in the world.Perhaps it would be possible to rip it out altogether and replace the whole thing with proper switches - a la CZ101?

________________________________
From: Scott <gl2tgr@...>
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2012, 21:58
Subject: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?

Hi folks, I just joined hoping for some help. A friend made me a "permanent loan" of an old CZ1000. It works but some of the membrane switches are either iffy are just don't work at all. 

I did search this forum for "membrane" and a couple of other things. While I did find a few posts like this one, I found no responses or help. 

So I'm just wondering, is there any conventional wisdom on this? Anything like "spray this stuff on them" or "you can replace them but it's a hassle" or "forget it, it's not worth it" etc.

All opinions are welcome.

Thanks! Scott

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Re: Any help with an old CZ1000?

2012-06-20 by Scott

Thanks for your replies! They at least give me something to ponder. I'll have some time next week to look into trying the foil trick and will let you know how I fare!

Thanks again, Scott

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, Lee Borrell <templarser@...> wrote:

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> Hahah - the tin foil in the hole punch - I confess to being a poor man - I have got a few remote controls and Yamaha PSS going with that trick!
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>  From: bill bigrig <billbigrig@...>
> To: "CZsynth@yahoogroups.com" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2012, 14:00
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?
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> Yes, this is a problem with older Alesis sequncers. You take the switches apart. If they have little black "hockey pucks", you can buy a liquid to brush on and restore them. The poor man's solution is to use a paper punch, punch out a bunch of tin foil disks, and glue them to the black "pucks".
> Rig
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Lee Borrell <templarser@...>
> To: "CZsynth@yahoogroups.com" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?
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> Â  
> I've not actually looked into that - but I daresay trying to solve that one will be not the easiest thing in the world.Perhaps it would be possible to rip it out altogether and replace the whole thing with proper switches - a la CZ101?
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Scott <gl2tgr@...>
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2012, 21:58
> Subject: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?
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> Hi folks, I just joined hoping for some help. A friend made me a "permanent loan" of an old CZ1000. It works but some of the membrane switches are either iffy are just don't work at all. 
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> I did search this forum for "membrane" and a couple of other things. While I did find a few posts like this one, I found no responses or help. 
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> So I'm just wondering, is there any conventional wisdom on this? Anything like "spray this stuff on them" or "you can replace them but it's a hassle" or "forget it, it's not worth it" etc.
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> All opinions are welcome.
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> Thanks! Scott
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Re: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?

2012-06-20 by Gordon JC Pearce

On 20/06/12 14:00, bill bigrig wrote:
> Yes, this is a problem with older Alesis sequncers. You take the switches apart. If they have little black "hockey pucks", you can buy a liquid to brush on and restore them. The poor man's solution is to use a paper punch, punch out a bunch of tin foil disks, and glue them to the black "pucks".

On my MMT8s and HR16s, and on my mate's Sequential Sixtrak, I carefully 
buffed the contact fingers back to clean metal and soldered small 
surface-mount tact switches on.  Gives a nice positive click and will 
last another 20-odd years - it'll see me out...

-- 
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ

Re: [CZsynth] Re: Any help with an old CZ1000?

2012-06-21 by bill bigrig

Then again, I'm not absolutely sure. There may be tactile switches in there. Your only recourse then, would be to unsolder them, and install new ones. Whenadding the 101 cartridge memory doubling circuit, I did not go in deep enough to make sure.
rig


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From: Scott <gl2tgr@...>
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:52 PM
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: Any help with an old CZ1000?


  
Thanks for your replies! They at least give me something to ponder. I'll have some time next week to look into trying the foil trick and will let you know how I fare!

Thanks again, Scott

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, Lee Borrell <templarser@...> wrote:
>
> Hahah - the tin foil in the hole punch - I confess to being a poor man - I have got a few remote controls and Yamaha PSS going with that trick!
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: bill bigrig <billbigrig@...>
> To: "CZsynth@yahoogroups.com" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2012, 14:00
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?
> 
> 
> Â  
> Yes, this is a problem with older Alesis sequncers. You take the switches apart. If they have little black "hockey pucks", you can buy a liquid to brush on and restore them. The poor man's solution is to use a paper punch, punch out a bunch of tin foil disks, and glue them to the black "pucks".
> Rig
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Lee Borrell <templarser@...>
> To: "CZsynth@yahoogroups.com" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?
> 
> Â  
> I've not actually looked into that - but I daresay trying to solve that one will be not the easiest thing in the world.Perhaps it would be possible to rip it out altogether and replace the whole thing with proper switches - a la CZ101?
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Scott <gl2tgr@...>
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2012, 21:58
> Subject: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?
> 
> Â  
> Hi folks, I just joined hoping for some help. A friend made me a "permanent loan" of an old CZ1000. It works but some of the membrane switches are either iffy are just don't work at all. 
> 
> I did search this forum for "membrane" and a couple of other things. While I did find a few posts like this one, I found no responses or help. 
> 
> So I'm just wondering, is there any conventional wisdom on this? Anything like "spray this stuff on them" or "you can replace them but it's a hassle" or "forget it, it's not worth it" etc.
> 
> All opinions are welcome.
> 
> Thanks! Scott
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Re: [CZsynth] Re: Any help with an old CZ1000?

2012-06-21 by Lee Borrell

I had an old commodoreculator once - because it broke I had cause to see how the keyboard worked - they had printed circuit on the bottom and the top was made of aluminium-type pressed metal,rather like the thermo sensor in a radiator system -when pressed it buckled enough to hit the PCB and then sprang back - it feels something like that on the CZ membrane.If it is - I am not sure how you would fix that.Only one way to find out.



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 From: bill bigrig <billbigrig@...>
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2012, 16:52
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Any help with an old CZ1000?
 

  
Then again, I'm not absolutely sure. There may be tactile switches in there. Your only recourse then, would be to unsolder them, and install new ones. Whenadding the 101 cartridge memory doubling circuit, I did not go in deep enough to make sure.
rig

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From: Scott <gl2tgr@...>
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:52 PM
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: Any help with an old CZ1000?

  
Thanks for your replies! They at least give me something to ponder. I'll have some time next week to look into trying the foil trick and will let you know how I fare!

Thanks again, Scott

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, Lee Borrell <templarser@...> wrote:
>
> Hahah - the tin foil in the hole punch - I confess to being a poor man - I have got a few remote controls and Yamaha PSS going with that trick!
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: bill bigrig <billbigrig@...>
> To: "CZsynth@yahoogroups.com" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2012, 14:00
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?
> 
> 
> Â  
> Yes, this is a problem with older Alesis sequncers. You take the switches apart. If they have little black "hockey pucks", you can buy a liquid to brush on and restore them. The poor man's solution is to use a paper punch, punch out a bunch of tin foil disks, and glue them to the black "pucks".
> Rig
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Lee Borrell <templarser@...>
> To: "CZsynth@yahoogroups.com" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?
> 
> Â  
> I've not actually looked into that - but I daresay trying to solve that one will be not the easiest thing in the world.Perhaps it would be possible to rip it out altogether and replace the whole thing with proper switches - a la CZ101?
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Scott <gl2tgr@...>
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2012, 21:58
> Subject: [CZsynth] Any help with an old CZ1000?
> 
> Â  
> Hi folks, I just joined hoping for some help. A friend made me a "permanent loan" of an old CZ1000. It works but some of the membrane switches are either iffy are just don't work at all. 
> 
> I did search this forum for "membrane" and a couple of other things. While I did find a few posts like this one, I found no responses or help. 
> 
> So I'm just wondering, is there any conventional wisdom on this? Anything like "spray this stuff on them" or "you can replace them but it's a hassle" or "forget it, it's not worth it" etc.
> 
> All opinions are welcome.
> 
> Thanks! Scott
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Re: [CZsynth] Re: Any help with an old CZ1000?

2012-06-21 by Gordon JC Pearce

On 21/06/12 17:09, Lee Borrell wrote:
> I had an old commodoreculator once - because it broke I had cause to see how the keyboard worked - they had printed circuit on the bottom and the top was made of aluminium-type pressed metal,rather like the thermo sensor in a radiator system -when pressed it buckled enough to hit the PCB and then sprang back - it feels something like that on the CZ membrane.If it is - I am not sure how you would fix that.Only one way to find out.

That's pretty much what's inside the sealed tact switches, it's just 
they're all cased up in a wee box.

-- 
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ

Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

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