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2015-03-21 by wizardjonah@...
ok so i have a cz 5000 midi in and midi out work, but the midi thru doesn't work , or did i miss something to set up ? also if i use a daw is it possible to use different midi tracks like on the sequencer ??? can the sequencer send out midi tracks ? and/or receive them ? its all new to me cheers ;)
but first question is as anyone fixed a midi port ? i have no tech knowledges but ready to learn to fix my lovely cz ;)
2015-03-22 by sf_scorp@...
2015-03-23 by Lee
Thanks for that. I believe the pin out for the cassette port is the same as the Yamaha tape backup, as I use the same cable for both. From checking mine it appears centre pin is earth and the ones immediately either side are in/out. I suspect motor control is in there too. Sent from my iPhone
On 22 Mar 2015, at 00:53, "sf_scorp@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > (I'm not sure if this is Ling over on Facebook, but I just posted a reply to a similar question over there. In case it's just a coincidence, I'm reposting here as well): > > There is no MIDI thru on the CZ-5000. That "MT" port does not mean MIDI Thru. It means "Music Terminal". It is not MIDI at all. It is an 8-pin DIN connector that Casio used to connect a 230S, a 5000, an SZ-1 sequencer or an RZ-1 drum machine to a cassette recorder/player. It was a way of storing tones and sequencer data to (or reloading from) standard cassette. The 3000 and the CZ-1 have MIDI Thru, but not the 5000. > > So, you do not need to fix that MIDI port. Because it's not a MIDI port :) > > MT is clumsy by today's standards, but can be very useful to store and retrieve sequences, which you can't (easily) do with MIDI or even the cartridges. The original MT cables are nearly impossible to find these days, but I managed to make one out of existing off-the-shelf parts this week. I use the cable to dump data to a small digital voice recorder as WAV files, so I'll never lose a sequence again. > > But, yes, you can use the 5000 with a DAW. The Sequencer will send/receive some data (see the manual, page 49; and 50-53 for detailed examples. > > Also, be sure to check out these pages. Lots of great information here that is either not documented in the manuals, or not written and explained as well. Hope all this helps! > > --Robert > > > TinyLoops Invaluable Tips for the CZ-5000 - > CASIO CZ-5000 - Tips > > CASIO CZ-5000 - Tips > CASIO CZ-5000 - Tips tips | mt connector | sysx | sequencer | manual The thing has a LED for nearly all the buttons, which already gives the CZ a great entertain... > View on goo.gl > Preview by Yahoo > > > > Jim Atwoods CZ-5000 explorations - > Casio CZ-5000 Synthesizer in Japan > > Casio CZ-5000 Synthesizer in Japan > Today I was out and about and I went into a used goods shop called "Santa" in Nagano-city, Japan. I was surprised to see that there was a big store wide s... > View on goo.gl > Preview by Yahoo > > > > >
2015-03-23 by Lee
The cx5m manual shows pins 6&7 as motor control. Not sure if Casio have them in those positions, as I don't use a tape with 'remote in'. Sent from my iPhone
On 23 Mar 2015, at 13:35, "Lee templarser@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Thanks for that. I believe the pin out for the cassette port is the same as the Yamaha tape backup, as I use the same cable for both. > > From checking mine it appears centre pin is earth and the ones immediately either side are in/out. > > I suspect motor control is in there too. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 22 Mar 2015, at 00:53, "sf_scorp@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> (I'm not sure if this is Ling over on Facebook, but I just posted a reply to a similar question over there. In case it's just a coincidence, I'm reposting here as well): >> >> There is no MIDI thru on the CZ-5000. That "MT" port does not mean MIDI Thru. It means "Music Terminal". It is not MIDI at all. It is an 8-pin DIN connector that Casio used to connect a 230S, a 5000, an SZ-1 sequencer or an RZ-1 drum machine to a cassette recorder/player. It was a way of storing tones and sequencer data to (or reloading from) standard cassette. The 3000 and the CZ-1 have MIDI Thru, but not the 5000. >> >> So, you do not need to fix that MIDI port. Because it's not a MIDI port :) >> >> MT is clumsy by today's standards, but can be very useful to store and retrieve sequences, which you can't (easily) do with MIDI or even the cartridges. The original MT cables are nearly impossible to find these days, but I managed to make one out of existing off-the-shelf parts this week. I use the cable to dump data to a small digital voice recorder as WAV files, so I'll never lose a sequence again. >> >> But, yes, you can use the 5000 with a DAW. The Sequencer will send/receive some data (see the manual, page 49; and 50-53 for detailed examples. >> >> Also, be sure to check out these pages. Lots of great information here that is either not documented in the manuals, or not written and explained as well. Hope all this helps! >> >> --Robert >> >> >> TinyLoops Invaluable Tips for the CZ-5000 - >> CASIO CZ-5000 - Tips >> >> CASIO CZ-5000 - Tips >> CASIO CZ-5000 - Tips tips | mt connector | sysx | sequencer | manual The thing has a LED for nearly all the buttons, which already gives the CZ a great entertain... >> View on goo.gl >> Preview by Yahoo >> >> >> >> Jim Atwoods CZ-5000 explorations - >> Casio CZ-5000 Synthesizer in Japan >> >> Casio CZ-5000 Synthesizer in Japan >> Today I was out and about and I went into a used goods shop called "Santa" in Nagano-city, Japan. I was surprised to see that there was a big store wide s... >> View on goo.gl >> Preview by Yahoo > >
2015-03-23 by Lee Borrell
The pinout for the CX5m (and presumably Yamaha) is here: http://templarseries.atspace.com/maplin/CDRI.gif I suspect the Casio ones follow suit. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | View on templarseries.atspac... | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
From: "Lee templarser@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@...m>
To: "CZsynth@yahoogroups.com" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 23 March 2015, 13:38
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: no midi thru on cz 5000
The cx5m manual shows pins 6&7 as motor control.
Not sure if Casio have them in those positions, as I don't use a tape with 'remote in'.
Sent from my iPhone
On 23 Mar 2015, at 13:35, "Lee templarser@....uk [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Thanks for that. I believe the pin out for the cassette port is the same as the Yamaha tape backup, as I use the same cable for both.
From checking mine it appears centre pin is earth and the ones immediately either side are in/out.
I suspect motor control is in there too.
Sent from my iPhone
On 22 Mar 2015, at 00:53, "sf_scorp@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
(I'm not sure if this is Ling over on Facebook, but I just posted a reply to a similar question over there. In case it's just a coincidence, I'm reposting here as well):
There is no MIDI thru on the CZ-5000. That "MT" port does not mean MIDI Thru. It means "Music Terminal". It is not MIDI at all. It is an 8-pin DIN connector that Casio used to connect a 230S, a 5000, an SZ-1 sequencer or an RZ-1 drum machine to a cassette recorder/player. It was a way of storing tones and sequencer data to (or reloading from) standard cassette. The 3000 and the CZ-1 have MIDI Thru, but not the 5000.
So, you do not need to fix that MIDI port. Because it's not a MIDI port :)
MT is clumsy by today's standards, but can be very useful to store and retrieve sequences, which you can't (easily) do with MIDI or even the cartridges. The original MT cables are nearly impossible to find these days, but I managed to make one out of existing off-the-shelf parts this week. I use the cable to dump data to a small digital voice recorder as WAV files, so I'll never lose a sequence again.
But, yes, you can use the 5000 with a DAW. The Sequencer will send/receive some data (see the manual, page 49; and 50-53 for detailed examples.
Also, be sure to check out these pages. Lots of great information here that is either not documented in the manuals, or not written and explained as well. Hope all this helps!
--Robert
TinyLoops Invaluable Tips for the CZ-5000 -CASIO CZ-5000 - Tips
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| | | | CASIO CZ-5000 - Tips CASIO CZ-5000 - Tips tips | mt connector | sysx | sequencer | manual The thing has a LED for nearly all the buttons, which already gives the CZ a great entertain... | |
| View on goo.gl | Preview by Yahoo |
| |
Jim Atwoods CZ-5000 explorations -
Casio CZ-5000 Synthesizer in Japan
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| | | | Casio CZ-5000 Synthesizer in Japan Today I was out and about and I went into a used goods shop called "Santa" in Nagano-city, Japan. I was surprised to see that there was a big store wide s... | |
| View on goo.gl | Preview by Yahoo |
| |2015-03-23 by Daniel Forró
Confirmed, Yamaha TX81z has similar connection, just pins 6 and 7 are connected together inside the connector in the instrument. I have the cable but didn't check its connection yet. Daniel Forro On Mar 23, 2015, at 10:59 PM, Lee Borrell templarser@... [CZsynth] wrote:
> > > The pinout for the CX5m (and presumably Yamaha) is here: > > > http://templarseries.atspace.com/maplin/CDRI.gif > > I suspect the Casio ones follow suit. > > > > > > > > > View on templarseries.atspac... > Preview by Yahoo > >
2015-03-24 by sf_scorp@...
2015-03-27 by Lee
Yep, I use 5 pins also. Sent from my iPhone
On 24 Mar 2015, at 15:53, "sf_scorp@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Yes, that's the same pin-out for the Casio MT interface. #4, data-out to the recorder; #5, data-in from the recorder to the CZ. 1, 2 and 3 are ground. 7 and 6 are remote control. > > > A standard 5-pin MIDI din works just fine. I use standard 5-pin male din to 4xRCA Phono male cable with mic adapters, connected to a little digital voice recorder that records as WAV files. Red is #5, so connects to the recorder's earphone jack. Yellow is #4, and connect to mic in jack. No remote control, just manual, and the MT interface detects the signal automatically (you can hear it click as the audio stream starts). > > --Robert > >
2015-03-28 by wizardjonah@...
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