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FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-01 by wizardjonah@...

hi i just got a an FZ10M i was told the floppy drive didn't work but actually i've got no drive.

So here goes my questions i havn't figured out how to dump the files from the group, they are not sysex format,

and i've read some people have made sounds !! please share them.

i've been hable to use the synth sounds but as soon as i turn off the machine and put it back on all my sounds are gone , is it normal ? or maybe just a dead battery Inside ?

but main problem is to be able to dump the machine or load sounds from pc. what to use ? Under win 8 or Under mac OSx ? any idea the files are for win 95 and i've got no oldschool pc.

thanks and cheers to this great group as always ^^

Re: [CZsynth] FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-02 by Lee

Just going off the fz1 as opposed to the 10m.

There is no memory of files after power off.That is normal.
The Fz uses sysx, the formats are peculiar to the machine.
The fz dumps in 'blocks' and needs acknowledgement from the device and therefore needs both in/out midi leads in place or the 'd' plug and special cable attaching which is not a standard pc cable.

So far I have had near zero luck using any method other than the drive.
The dump device needs selecting under the relevant menu.

I have no info on mac os.


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On 2 Apr 2015, at 00:37, "wizardjonah@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> hi i just got a an FZ10M i was told the floppy drive didn't work but actually i've got no drive.
> 
> So here goes my questions i havn't figured out how to dump the files from the group, they are not sysex format,
> 
> and i've read some people have made sounds !! please share them.
> 
> i've been hable to use the synth sounds but as soon as i turn off the machine and put it back on all my sounds are gone , is it normal ? or maybe just a dead battery Inside ?
> 
> but main problem is to be able to dump the machine or load sounds from pc. what to use ? Under win 8 or Under mac OSx ? any idea the files are for win 95 and i've got no oldschool pc.
> 
> thanks and cheers to this great group as always ^^
> 
>

Re: [CZsynth] FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-02 by Lee

I keep data on the fz here:

http://templarseries.atspace.com/fz.html

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On 2 Apr 2015, at 00:37, "wizardjonah@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> hi i just got a an FZ10M i was told the floppy drive didn't work but actually i've got no drive.
> 
> So here goes my questions i havn't figured out how to dump the files from the group, they are not sysex format,
> 
> and i've read some people have made sounds !! please share them.
> 
> i've been hable to use the synth sounds but as soon as i turn off the machine and put it back on all my sounds are gone , is it normal ? or maybe just a dead battery Inside ?
> 
> but main problem is to be able to dump the machine or load sounds from pc. what to use ? Under win 8 or Under mac OSx ? any idea the files are for win 95 and i've got no oldschool pc.
> 
> thanks and cheers to this great group as always ^^
> 
>

Re: [CZsynth] FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-02 by Lee

Looking at this:

http://download1075.mediafire.com/9qf9dzes56tg/yjscwhjyu1gk8yy/fz_fx_syx.pdf

File formats could be fzf/fze from the file dumper.
I have no knowledge of those and referral to the 
dumper program references would be needed.



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On 2 Apr 2015, at 06:26, "Lee templarser@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> I keep data on the fz here:
> 
> http://templarseries.atspace.com/fz.html
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 Apr 2015, at 00:37, "wizardjonah@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
>>  
>> hi i just got a an FZ10M i was told the floppy drive didn't work but actually i've got no drive.
>> 
>> So here goes my questions i havn't figured out how to dump the files from the group, they are not sysex format,
>> 
>> and i've read some people have made sounds !! please share them.
>> 
>> i've been hable to use the synth sounds but as soon as i turn off the machine and put it back on all my sounds are gone , is it normal ? or maybe just a dead battery Inside ?
>> 
>> but main problem is to be able to dump the machine or load sounds from pc. what to use ? Under win 8 or Under mac OSx ? any idea the files are for win 95 and i've got no oldschool pc.
>> 
>> thanks and cheers to this great group as always ^^
>> 
> 
>

Re: [CZsynth] FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-02 by Lee

Details of the dump procedure are in this doc:

http://download1697.mediafire.com/cyj026vulycg/63tmwvhfpljr994/casio_data_structures.pdf

If you have no drive then I have heard the following:

You can either use a modified 'a drive' as a replacement. 
I do recall someone mentioning how to alter one.

There are now SD card replacements for the drive.
Suspect the first option is technically awkward but cheap and
the latter easier but expensive.

It is also possible to get the 'd cable' or modify a pc one.
This can apparently damage pc/fz if correct cable not used.
It also needs software.

Not sure there are any easy solutions.
I would like more info myself as I rue the day my drive may fail!



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On 2 Apr 2015, at 00:37, "wizardjonah@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> hi i just got a an FZ10M i was told the floppy drive didn't work but actually i've got no drive.
> 
> So here goes my questions i havn't figured out how to dump the files from the group, they are not sysex format,
> 
> and i've read some people have made sounds !! please share them.
> 
> i've been hable to use the synth sounds but as soon as i turn off the machine and put it back on all my sounds are gone , is it normal ? or maybe just a dead battery Inside ?
> 
> but main problem is to be able to dump the machine or load sounds from pc. what to use ? Under win 8 or Under mac OSx ? any idea the files are for win 95 and i've got no oldschool pc.
> 
> thanks and cheers to this great group as always ^^
> 
>

Re: [CZsynth] FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-02 by gordon@...

On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 06:54:06AM +0100, Lee templarser@... [CZsynth] wrote:
> Details of the dump procedure are in this doc:
> 
> http://download1697.mediafire.com/cyj026vulycg/63tmwvhfpljr994/casio_data_structures.pdf
> 
> If you have no drive then I have heard the following:
> 
> You can either use a modified 'a drive' as a replacement. 
> I do recall someone mentioning how to alter one.

I'm going by my experience with Ensoniq Mirage drives.  The two differences are that PC drives are internally jumpered to respond to /DS1 instead of /DS0 and that they generate a /DISKCHANGE signal instead of /READY.

Swapping /DS0 and /DS1 is usually easy - often there is a zero-ohm SMT resistor that you pick off and solder onto the adjacent pad (or pick off and bridge the pad with a blob of solder).  If not, you can just cut the tracks and jumper them.

The /DC and /READY signals are a bit more subtle.  On old-fashioned drives like in the Mirage, /READY is pulled low when there is a disk in and chucked and the spindle motor is at speed.  If you examine the Mirage software, you'll see it enables the motor then waits in a loop for /READY to be asserted, then either fail out if it doesn't see it or begin the disk operation if it does see it go low.  By comparison, /DISKCHANGE is low if a disk has been put in *but* the head hasn't been stepped since then.  As soon as the head moves, /DC goes high again because the disk has been used since it was changed (at least, that's the idea).

Now, if you jumper a normal PC floppy drive for /DS0 and plug it into an Ensoniq Mirage, it will boot perfectly happily, go through its tuning routine, and then stop with a flashing "nd" error - "No Disk".  Why?  Because the boot ROM doesn't care about /READY so it spins up the disk and begins to read and if it likes what it sees it loads the OS and runs it.  But!  That's stepped the heads, hasn't it?  So now /READY (which on our PC drive is really /DISKCHANGE) has gone high again!  The simple-minded OS never bothers to check it again, just at the start of a disk operation.  So because we stepped the heads, it doesn't see /READY, and it complains there's no disk in the drive.  If we quickly pop the disk and put it back while the filters are tuning (we've got about two seconds, plenty time if you're paying attention) it will clear the /DISKCHANGE state and the OS will continue to load quite happily.

So, how does this help with an FZ?  Well, if you wire the /DS0 pin up then it should select the drive.  I don't know how clever the FZ firmware is about checking for /READY but the "pop it out, pop it in" trick might well work.  If it doesn't, you could pull the /READY pin to ground all the time - but be warned that it may do weird stuff if you really *don't* have a disk in the drive!

There is one further issue.  I *think* that the drives that Casio used might run at a different spindle speed to PC drives - 300rpm versus 360rpm or something.  You might need to fiddle about with the spindle motor to get that right, or do something clever with HD/DD selection pins.

Good luck, and happy hacking!

-- 
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ

Re: [CZsynth] FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-02 by Lee Borrell

Yes - I think spindle speed is an issue also. That's one issue I recall the last time this subject cropped up.
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      From: "gordon@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "Lee templarser@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, 2 April 2015, 9:32
 Subject: Re: [CZsynth] FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?
   
    On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 06:54:06AM +0100, Lee templarser@... [CZsynth] wrote:
> Details of the dump procedure are in this doc:
> 
> http://download1697.mediafire.com/cyj026vulycg/63tmwvhfpljr994/casio_data_structures.pdf
> 
> If you have no drive then I have heard the following:
> 
> You can either use a modified 'a drive' as a replacement. 
> I do recall someone mentioning how to alter one.

I'm going by my experience with Ensoniq Mirage drives. The two differences are that PC drives are internally jumpered to respond to /DS1 instead of /DS0 and that they generate a /DISKCHANGE signal instead of /READY.

Swapping /DS0 and /DS1 is usually easy - often there is a zero-ohm SMT resistor that you pick off and solder onto the adjacent pad (or pick off and bridge the pad with a blob of solder). If not, you can just cut the tracks and jumper them.

The /DC and /READY signals are a bit more subtle. On old-fashioned drives like in the Mirage, /READY is pulled low when there is a disk in and chucked and the spindle motor is at speed. If you examine the Mirage software, you'll see it enables the motor then waits in a loop for /READY to be asserted, then either fail out if it doesn't see it or begin the disk operation if it does see it go low. By comparison, /DISKCHANGE is low if a disk has been put in *but* the head hasn't been stepped since then. As soon as the head moves, /DC goes high again because the disk has been used since it was changed (at least, that's the idea).

Now, if you jumper a normal PC floppy drive for /DS0 and plug it into an Ensoniq Mirage, it will boot perfectly happily, go through its tuning routine, and then stop with a flashing "nd" error - "No Disk". Why? Because the boot ROM doesn't care about /READY so it spins up the disk and begins to read and if it likes what it sees it loads the OS and runs it. But! That's stepped the heads, hasn't it? So now /READY (which on our PC drive is really /DISKCHANGE) has gone high again! The simple-minded OS never bothers to check it again, just at the start of a disk operation. So because we stepped the heads, it doesn't see /READY, and it complains there's no disk in the drive. If we quickly pop the disk and put it back while the filters are tuning (we've got about two seconds, plenty time if you're paying attention) it will clear the /DISKCHANGE state and the OS will continue to load quite happily.

So, how does this help with an FZ? Well, if you wire the /DS0 pin up then it should select the drive. I don't know how clever the FZ firmware is about checking for /READY but the "pop it out, pop it in" trick might well work. If it doesn't, you could pull the /READY pin to ground all the time - but be warned that it may do weird stuff if you really *don't* have a disk in the drive!

There is one further issue. I *think* that the drives that Casio used might run at a different spindle speed to PC drives - 300rpm versus 360rpm or something. You might need to fiddle about with the spindle motor to get that right, or do something clever with HD/DD selection pins.

Good luck, and happy hacking!

-- 
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ

Re: [CZsynth] FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-02 by Lee Borrell

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      From: "Lee Borrell templarser@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "CZsynth@yahoogroups.com" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, 2 April 2015, 10:02
 Subject: Re: [CZsynth] FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?
   
    Yes - I think spindle speed is an issue also. That's one issue I recall the last time this subject cropped up.

 

     From: "gordon@gjcp.net [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "Lee templarser@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, 2 April 2015, 9:32
 Subject: Re: [CZsynth] FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?
   
    On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 06:54:06AM +0100, Lee templarser@... [CZsynth] wrote:
> Details of the dump procedure are in this doc:
> 
> http://download1697.mediafire.com/cyj026vulycg/63tmwvhfpljr994/casio_data_structures.pdf
> 
> If you have no drive then I have heard the following:
> 
> You can either use a modified 'a drive' as a replacement. 
> I do recall someone mentioning how to alter one.

I'm going by my experience with Ensoniq Mirage drives. The two differences are that PC drives are internally jumpered to respond to /DS1 instead of /DS0 and that they generate a /DISKCHANGE signal instead of /READY.

Swapping /DS0 and /DS1 is usually easy - often there is a zero-ohm SMT resistor that you pick off and solder onto the adjacent pad (or pick off and bridge the pad with a blob of solder). If not, you can just cut the tracks and jumper them.

The /DC and /READY signals are a bit more subtle. On old-fashioned drives like in the Mirage, /READY is pulled low when there is a disk in and chucked and the spindle motor is at speed. If you examine the Mirage software, you'll see it enables the motor then waits in a loop for /READY to be asserted, then either fail out if it doesn't see it or begin the disk operation if it does see it go low. By comparison, /DISKCHANGE is low if a disk has been put in *but* the head hasn't been stepped since then. As soon as the head moves, /DC goes high again because the disk has been used since it was changed (at least, that's the idea).

Now, if you jumper a normal PC floppy drive for /DS0 and plug it into an Ensoniq Mirage, it will boot perfectly happily, go through its tuning routine, and then stop with a flashing "nd" error - "No Disk". Why? Because the boot ROM doesn't care about /READY so it spins up the disk and begins to read and if it likes what it sees it loads the OS and runs it. But! That's stepped the heads, hasn't it? So now /READY (which on our PC drive is really /DISKCHANGE) has gone high again! The simple-minded OS never bothers to check it again, just at the start of a disk operation. So because we stepped the heads, it doesn't see /READY, and it complains there's no disk in the drive. If we quickly pop the disk and put it back while the filters are tuning (we've got about two seconds, plenty time if you're paying attention) it will clear the /DISKCHANGE state and the OS will continue to load quite happily.

So, how does this help with an FZ? Well, if you wire the /DS0 pin up then it should select the drive. I don't know how clever the FZ firmware is about checking for /READY but the "pop it out, pop it in" trick might well work. If it doesn't, you could pull the /READY pin to ground all the time - but be warned that it may do weird stuff if you really *don't* have a disk in the drive!

There is one further issue. I *think* that the drives that Casio used might run at a different spindle speed to PC drives - 300rpm versus 360rpm or something. You might need to fiddle about with the spindle motor to get that right, or do something clever with HD/DD selection pins.

Good luck, and happy hacking!

-- 
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ

Re: FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-02 by wizardjonah@...

I can't even find FZdump or any soft , so the easiest solution would be to get a sd card drive then ?

all solutions seem so complicated right now...AAAAAaaaaa any links to what to get ? i like the synth sounds Inside and would need to save whatever i do on it....if not its just too much time lossed each time reprogramming it.... i don't even know where to get fresh 3.5 disk lol


Re: [CZsynth] Re: FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-02 by Lee Borrell

The solutions are not easy which is why I am still on it's own drive.

This is what people are up to :

Lotharek HxC floppy emulator in Casio FZ anyone? - Gearslutz.com

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| Lotharek HxC floppy emulator in Casio FZ anyone? - Gears...I've searched old posts but can't seem to find anything here about anyone installing the Lotharek HxC floppy emulator into a Casio FZ . . . Lotharek`s |
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| View on www.gearslutz.com | Preview by Yahoo |
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Comment on the page:


Everyone says its a great product, but the sales dude is straight up ignorant and unpleasant to deal with. Wish there was other options in the same price range..

   

   From: "wizardjonah@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
 To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, 2 April 2015, 12:16
 Subject: [CZsynth] Re: FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?
   
    I can't even find FZdump or any soft , so the easiest solution would be to get a sd card drive then ? all solutions seem so complicated right now...AAAAAaaaaa any links to what to get ? i like the synth sounds Inside and would need to save whatever i do on it....if not its just too much time lossed each time reprogramming it.... i don't even know where to get fresh 3.5 disk lol

Re: [CZsynth] Re: FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-02 by Daniel Forró

I don't think he is ignorant - he just makes and sells those products.  
Inventors, headquarters and forum are here:

http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html

And here:

http://torlus.com/floppy/

Number of supported musical instruments is growing and there's good  
support from their side.

Of course there are more products like this, just use Google. Here is  
some Estonian product:

http://www.floppydrive.eu/floppydrive-emu.html

There are even cheaper options of Chinese origin, but I personally  
would avoid them as I don't trust cheap Chinese crap. For example Gotek:

http://gotek.en.ecplaza.net/

I'm sure there will be more and more similar products as floppy disks  
will become not only out of fashion, but out of use and out of  
production. Old FDD would have problems and many users of older  
instruments would need to change them for modern electronic solution  
without complex mechanics and moving parts...

Daniel Forro


On Apr 2, 2015, at 9:25 PM, Lee Borrell templarser@...  
[CZsynth] wrote:
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>
>
> The solutions are not easy which is why I am still on it's own drive.
>
> This is what people are up to :
>
> Lotharek HxC floppy emulator in Casio FZ anyone? - Gearslutz.com
>
>
> <shareLogo.jpg>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lotharek HxC floppy emulator in Casio FZ anyone? - Gears...
> I've searched old posts but can't seem to find anything here about  
> anyone installing the Lotharek HxC floppy emulator into a Casio  
> FZ . . . Lotharek`s
> View on www.gearslutz.com
> Preview by Yahoo
>
>
> Comment on the page:
>
>
> Everyone says its a great product, but the sales dude is straight up  
> ignorant and unpleasant to deal with. Wish there was other options  
> in the same price range..
>

Re: [CZsynth] Re: FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-02 by Lee

Just quoting the page Daniel. I have no personal knowledge either way! :-)

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On 2 Apr 2015, at 14:15, "Daniel Forró danforcz@yahoo.com [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> I don't think he is ignorant - he just makes and sells those products. Inventors, headquarters and forum are here:
> 
> http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html
> 
> And here:
> 
> http://torlus.com/floppy/
> 
> Number of supported musical instruments is growing and there's good support from their side.
> 
> Of course there are more products like this, just use Google. Here is some Estonian product:
> 
> http://www.floppydrive.eu/floppydrive-emu.html
> 
> There are even cheaper options of Chinese origin, but I personally would avoid them as I don't trust cheap Chinese crap. For example Gotek:
> 
> http://gotek.en.ecplaza.net/
> 
> I'm sure there will be more and more similar products as floppy disks will become not only out of fashion, but out of use and out of production. Old FDD would have problems and many users of older instruments would need to change them for modern electronic solution without complex mechanics and moving parts...
> 
> Daniel Forro
> 
> 
> On Apr 2, 2015, at 9:25 PM, Lee Borrell templarser@... [CZsynth] wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> The solutions are not easy which is why I am still on it's own drive.
>> 
>> This is what people are up to :
>> 
>> Lotharek HxC floppy emulator in Casio FZ anyone? - Gearslutz.com
>>  
>>  
>> <shareLogo.jpg>
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Lotharek HxC floppy emulator in Casio FZ anyone? - Gears...
>> I've searched old posts but can't seem to find anything here about anyone installing the Lotharek HxC floppy emulator into a Casio FZ . . . Lotharek`s
>> View on www.gearslutz.com
>> Preview by Yahoo
>>  
>> 
>> Comment on the page:
>> 
>> 
>> Everyone says its a great product, but the sales dude is straight up ignorant and unpleasant to deal with. Wish there was other options in the same price range..
> 
>

Re: [CZsynth] Re: FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-02 by analogmonster@...

The lotharek guy has been a little rude to me some times but it hasn't stopped me ordering his products. Each product has turned up when he said it would and they really work-that's all I really care about.

As far as I am aware this is the only option for a modern replacement rather than replacing floppy with floppy. The Chinese drives probably won't work in an fz1 for the same reason that a normal pc floppy drive won't work- pin layout is different, possibly different speeds and logic states. Lotharek has already created the custom file needed to tell his floppy emulator what settings are needed to emulate an fz1 floppy drive. Chinese usb drives would almost certainly require modding to the drives themselves and that may not be possible at all.



On 2 Apr 2015, at 14:15, Daniel Forró danforcz@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I don't think he is ignorant - he just makes and sells those products. Inventors, headquarters and forum are here:

http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html

And here:

http://torlus.com/floppy/

Number of supported musical instruments is growing and there's good support from their side.

Of course there are more products like this, just use Google. Here is some Estonian product:

http://www.floppydrive.eu/floppydrive-emu.html

There are even cheaper options of Chinese origin, but I personally would avoid them as I don't trust cheap Chinese crap. For example Gotek:

http://gotek.en.ecplaza.net/

I'm sure there will be more and more similar products as floppy disks will become not only out of fashion, but out of use and out of production. Old FDD would have problems and many users of older instruments would need to change them for modern electronic solution without complex mechanics and moving parts...

Daniel Forro
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> On Apr 2, 2015, at 9:25 PM, Lee Borrell templarser@....uk [CZsynth] wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> The solutions are not easy which is why I am still on it's own drive.
> 
> This is what people are up to :
> 
> Lotharek HxC floppy emulator in Casio FZ anyone? - Gearslutz.com
>  
>  
> <shareLogo.jpg>
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Lotharek HxC floppy emulator in Casio FZ anyone? - Gears...
> I've searched old posts but can't seem to find anything here about anyone installing the Lotharek HxC floppy emulator into a Casio FZ . . . Lotharek`s
> View on www.gearslutz.com
> Preview by Yahoo
>  
> 
> Comment on the page:
> 
> 
> Everyone says its a great product, but the sales dude is straight up ignorant and unpleasant to deal with. Wish there was other options in the same price range..

Re: [CZsynth] Re: FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-02 by Lee Borrell

I think FZ Dump is here:
Index of /midi/casio/fz1
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| Index of /midi/casio/fz1Index of /midi/casio/fz1 Parent Directory fz.doc fz_ftu.zip fzdump.zip fzdump05.zip fzdump95.zip fzmanual.html fztools.zip fztrans.zip source05.zip  |
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      From: "Lee templarser@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "CZsynth@yahoogroups.com" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, 2 April 2015, 15:15
 Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?
   
    Just quoting the page Daniel. I have no personal knowledge either way! :-)

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On 2 Apr 2015, at 14:15, "Daniel Forró danforcz@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


    I don't think he is ignorant - he just makes and sells those products. Inventors, headquarters and forum are here:
http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html
And here:
http://torlus.com/floppy/
Number of supported musical instruments is growing and there's good support from their side.
Of course there are more products like this, just use Google. Here is some Estonian product:
http://www.floppydrive.eu/floppydrive-emu.html
There are even cheaper options of Chinese origin, but I personally would avoid them as I don't trust cheap Chinese crap. For example Gotek:
http://gotek.en.ecplaza.net/
I'm sure there will be more and more similar products as floppy disks will become not only out of fashion, but out of use and out of production. Old FDD would have problems and many users of older instruments would need to change them for modern electronic solution without complex mechanics and moving parts...
Daniel Forro

On Apr 2, 2015, at 9:25 PM, Lee Borrell templarser@... [CZsynth] wrote:



The solutions are not easy which is why I am still on it's own drive.

This is what people are up to :

Lotharek HxC floppy emulator in Casio FZ anyone? - Gearslutz.com

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Comment on the page:


Everyone says its a great product, but the sales dude is straight up ignorant and unpleasant to deal with. Wish there was other options in the same price range..

Re: FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-03 by wizardjonah@...

thank you I tried it with no success, i'll try to find another way thru, i'll' let you know, but just for info how much would this sd card reader upgrade cost ? does it work well , is it easy to install ? any experience about would be welcome and interesting best regards

Re: [CZsynth] Re: FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-03 by emma

As I said before first you need fzdump files then if you want to make your own you need fzdump or awave studio fzdump is free awave is £90

The sd drive is about £120 with postage


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From: "wizardjonah@yahoo.fr [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 03/04/2015 14:06 (GMT+00:00)
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?


thank you I tried it with no success, i'll try to find another way thru, i'll' let you know, but just for info how much would this sd card reader upgrade cost ? does it work well , is it easy to install ? any experience about would be welcome and interesting best regards

Re: [CZsynth] Re: FZ10M midi dumper ??? win 8/ mac os x ?

2015-04-04 by wizardjonah@...

thanks for info but fzdump those files .fzf wich is the format I have, doenst work on win8 I used i'll try again tomorrow this is big time fail , I tried to send full dump, voice dump bank dump, I set the midi on channel 1 ...nothing works best regards

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.