Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

i just recieved my evolver wednesday...i feel i should
send dave flowers...i havent been this excited about a
piece of gear in quite some time...i'm very happy with
the sound quality and diversity if the module. i
thought i would hate the compact box but its really
cool. the thing is rock solid though.....
one thing that bothers me are the "clicking" knobs,
they're great for selecting patches etc, but it makes
filter sweeps AWFUL. may i suggest the knobs that have
a pull feature...if its down it clicks but smooth when
pulled out. i know it seems petty, but i think it
would make it much better.

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--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, JOSHUA HOLLEY <TARTARBOY@r...> 
wrote:
> i just recieved my evolver wednesday...i feel i should
> send dave flowers...i havent been this excited about a
> piece of gear in quite some time...i'm very happy with
> the sound quality and diversity if the module. i
> thought i would hate the compact box but its really
> cool. the thing is rock solid though.....
> one thing that bothers me are the "clicking" knobs,
> they're great for selecting patches etc, but it makes
> filter sweeps AWFUL. may i suggest the knobs that have
> a pull feature...if its down it clicks but smooth when
> pulled out. i know it seems petty, but i think it
> would make it much better.

Actually, dave has implemented a smoothing algorithm for the filter 
cutoff and some other functions, the filter shouldn't really step, it 
just feels like it does because the knobs don't move smoothly, they 
jump. I think most rotary encoders work like this. I like the 
encoders myself, they make it easy to just tweak one step (although 
the anti-jitter algo for the encoders needs improvement, they tend 
to 'jump' for no reason). They also don't just move if they are 
bumped, and that's cool. 

I'm evolver-less at the moment, does anybody know if the filter steps 
from the modwheel, or expression, etc.? 

You know, I don't think it would be hard to find encoders that do 
what you want, but be prepared to pay, and be prepared to void your 
warranty. At any rate if this knob-pull feature you suggest were 
implemented you'd have to buy a new evolver to get it.

---i was wrong...it actually seems not to jump like i
originally thought, though it is a little tough when
doing  subtle sweep, having the clicking motion.
i prefer the way it us for everything else.
my bad....now i'm off to play more!!!

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The evolver has routable destinations for:

Foot Controller
Breath Controller
Pressure 
Mod Wheel
Velocity
Env fol (think this has to do with the audio in)
In Peak Amnt (also for audio in)

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "thligrdd <onthesurface@c...>" 
<onthesurface@c...> wrote:
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, JOSHUA HOLLEY <TARTARBOY@r...> 
> wrote:
> > i just recieved my evolver wednesday...i feel i should
> > send dave flowers...i havent been this excited about a
> > piece of gear in quite some time...i'm very happy with
> > the sound quality and diversity if the module. i
> > thought i would hate the compact box but its really
> > cool. the thing is rock solid though.....
> > one thing that bothers me are the "clicking" knobs,
> > they're great for selecting patches etc, but it makes
> > filter sweeps AWFUL. may i suggest the knobs that have
> > a pull feature...if its down it clicks but smooth when
> > pulled out. i know it seems petty, but i think it
> > would make it much better.
> 
> Actually, dave has implemented a smoothing algorithm for the filter 
> cutoff and some other functions, the filter shouldn't really step, 
it 
> just feels like it does because the knobs don't move smoothly, they 
> jump. I think most rotary encoders work like this. I like the 
> encoders myself, they make it easy to just tweak one step (although 
> the anti-jitter algo for the encoders needs improvement, they tend 
> to 'jump' for no reason). They also don't just move if they are 
> bumped, and that's cool. 
> 
> I'm evolver-less at the moment, does anybody know if the filter 
steps 

> from the modwheel, or expression, etc.? 
> 
> You know, I don't think it would be hard to find encoders that do 
> what you want, but be prepared to pay, and be prepared to void your 
> warranty. At any rate if this knob-pull feature you suggest were 
> implemented you'd have to buy a new evolver to get it.

Hehe, I think you misunderstood me. I mean, does the filter step 
(quantize, stepping noise) when being modulated from a manual source, 
like foot controller or mod wheel. The answer is that it only steps 
slightly when a manual source like a mod wheel is adjusted very 
slowly. It's a lot better than most synths, that's for sure. 




--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Collin  <collin_meyer@y...>" 
<collin_meyer@y...> wrote:
> The evolver has routable destinations for:
> 
> Foot Controller
> Breath Controller
> Pressure 
> Mod Wheel
> Velocity
> Env fol (think this has to do with the audio in)
> In Peak Amnt (also for audio in)
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "thligrdd <onthesurface@c...>" 
> <onthesurface@c...> wrote:
> > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, JOSHUA HOLLEY 
<TARTARBOY@r...> 
> > wrote:
> > > i just recieved my evolver wednesday...i feel i should
> > > send dave flowers...i havent been this excited about a
> > > piece of gear in quite some time...i'm very happy with
> > > the sound quality and diversity if the module. i
> > > thought i would hate the compact box but its really
> > > cool. the thing is rock solid though.....
> > > one thing that bothers me are the "clicking" knobs,
> > > they're great for selecting patches etc, but it makes
> > > filter sweeps AWFUL. may i suggest the knobs that have
> > > a pull feature...if its down it clicks but smooth when
> > > pulled out. i know it seems petty, but i think it
> > > would make it much better.
> > 
> > Actually, dave has implemented a smoothing algorithm for the 
filter 
> > cutoff and some other functions, the filter shouldn't really 
step, 
> it 
> > just feels like it does because the knobs don't move smoothly, 
they 
> > jump. I think most rotary encoders work like this. I like the 
> > encoders myself, they make it easy to just tweak one step 
(although 
> > the anti-jitter algo for the encoders needs improvement, they 
tend 
> > to 'jump' for no reason). They also don't just move if they are 
> > bumped, and that's cool. 
> > 
> > I'm evolver-less at the moment, does anybody know if the filter 
> steps 
> > from the modwheel, or expression, etc.? 
> > 
> > You know, I don't think it would be hard to find encoders that do 
> > what you want, but be prepared to pay, and be prepared to void 
your 
> > warranty. At any rate if this knob-pull feature you suggest were 
> > implemented you'd have to buy a new evolver to get it.

Oh, I see, I get ya.  Makes much more sense now...

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "thligrdd <onthesurface@c...>" 
<onthesurface@c...> wrote:
> Hehe, I think you misunderstood me. I mean, does the filter step 
> (quantize, stepping noise) when being modulated from a manual 
source, 
> like foot controller or mod wheel. The answer is that it only steps 
> slightly when a manual source like a mod wheel is adjusted very 
> slowly. It's a lot better than most synths, that's for sure. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Collin  <collin_meyer@y...>" 
> <collin_meyer@y...> wrote:
> > The evolver has routable destinations for:
> > 
> > Foot Controller
> > Breath Controller
> > Pressure 
> > Mod Wheel
> > Velocity
> > Env fol (think this has to do with the audio in)
> > In Peak Amnt (also for audio in)
> > 
> > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "thligrdd 
<onthesurface@c...>" 
> > <onthesurface@c...> wrote:
> > > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, JOSHUA HOLLEY 
> <TARTARBOY@r...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > i just recieved my evolver wednesday...i feel i should
> > > > send dave flowers...i havent been this excited about a
> > > > piece of gear in quite some time...i'm very happy with
> > > > the sound quality and diversity if the module. i
> > > > thought i would hate the compact box but its really
> > > > cool. the thing is rock solid though.....
> > > > one thing that bothers me are the "clicking" knobs,
> > > > they're great for selecting patches etc, but it makes
> > > > filter sweeps AWFUL. may i suggest the knobs that have
> > > > a pull feature...if its down it clicks but smooth when
> > > > pulled out. i know it seems petty, but i think it
> > > > would make it much better.
> > > 
> > > Actually, dave has implemented a smoothing algorithm for the 
> filter 
> > > cutoff and some other functions, the filter shouldn't really 
> step, 
> > it 
> > > just feels like it does because the knobs don't move smoothly, 
> they 
> > > jump. I think most rotary encoders work like this. I like the 
> > > encoders myself, they make it easy to just tweak one step 
> (although 
> > > the anti-jitter algo for the encoders needs improvement, they 
> tend 
> > > to 'jump' for no reason). They also don't just move if they are 
> > > bumped, and that's cool. 
> > > 
> > > I'm evolver-less at the moment, does anybody know if the filter 
> > steps 
> > > from the modwheel, or expression, etc.? 
> > > 
> > > You know, I don't think it would be hard to find encoders that 
do 
> > > what you want, but be prepared to pay, and be prepared to void 
> your 
> > > warranty. At any rate if this knob-pull feature you suggest 
were 
> > > implemented you'd have to buy a new evolver to get it.