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How to connect

How to connect

2011-07-13 by jimh_54

Hello,
I am at wit's end. I have an Evolver and recently purchased a Tetr4. I use a mac mini and an Eidrol UM880 interface. I know that I should connect the evolver to the UM880 but I don't know whether to use the usb or the MIdi connectors for the Tetr4. I also have a PCR 800 keyboard/controller. They all show up in the mac Audio/Midi Utility except the evolver. I did create an instrument for the evolver. I also use Logic Pro 9.1. I have been able to play the Tetr4 from the PCR800 by connecting the usb. I have never been able to play the evolver thru logic at all.
I also just acquired an old FS1r that I want to connect thru logic also but I know this is a DSI forum So I'll ask only about the DSI equipment.

Can someone help?
Thanks

Re: [DSI Synths] How to connect

2011-07-13 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

Not sure what your question is.

You can use either the usb or the midi connectors for the Tetra -- or both.

If you play the evolver using logic, do you have logic set to play the correct UM880 output (the one that is connect to the input of the Evolver)?

it seems to me that if you connect the evolver midi in to say UM880 channel 1 out and the FS1R midi in to UM880 channel 2 out, then you should be able to play the same from logic and via your PCR800 by having the proper tracks outputing to the UM880 channels 1 and 2 respectively.

Ravi







On Jul 13, 2011, at 6:05 PM, jimh_54 wrote:

Hello,
I am at wit's end. I have an Evolver and recently purchased a Tetr4. I use a mac mini and an Eidrol UM880 interface. I know that I should connect the evolver to the UM880 but I don't know whether to use the usb or the MIdi connectors for the Tetr4. I also have a PCR 800 keyboard/controller. They all show up in the mac Audio/Midi Utility except the evolver. I did create an instrument for the evolver. I also use Logic Pro 9.1. I have been able to play the Tetr4 from the PCR800 by connecting the usb. I have never been able to play the evolver thru logic at all.
I also just acquired an old FS1r that I want to connect thru logic also but I know this is a DSI forum So I'll ask only about the DSI equipment.

Can someone help?
Thanks


Re: How to connect

2011-07-14 by James Holloway

This is how Audio Midi Setup is configured:

PCR800 keyboard/controller connected via usb to mac mini. Set to use internal MIDI interface in the keyboard. ( I've tried both settings on and off ) Midi cables go to the UM880 midi connections 1. If I turn the interface setting on the FS1R will play via the midi connections but this bypasses Logic.

DSI Tetr4 connected to Mac Mini via USB. (Logic can send Midi from keyboard to this) I can play through keyboard or logic. If the keyboard interface is turned on then the FS1R and the Tetr4 both play simultaneously. (unwanted behavior)

Eridol UM880 connected to Mac Mini via usb. Appears in Audio Midi Setup and can have devices connected. Appears to work, but…

Yamaha FS1R connected to midi midi connectors 4 I/O of UM880.
DSI Evolver connected to midi Midi connectors 3 I/O of UM880.

I am able to create midi instruments for all of the connected midi devices. I have double checked the midi channels to insure they are correct. Logic sees the devices connected to the correct ports of the um880. (it call them ports).

All devices have their audio outs going through an external mixer to speakers and I can hear them when triggered by on device buttons.

The Tetr4 can receive midi from both logic and from the keyboard thru logic and it does sound through speakers.

Neither of the other units respond to midi generated from the keyboard, but the midi indicator in logic shows they are receiving midi input, They just don't sound unless I set the keyboard internal interface on then the FS1R plays ( not through Logic though ).

In summary, devices connected through USB (class compliant) seem to work. Regular midi devices connected through the UM880 do not respond.

The FS1R will respond to midi input throughout the um880 when I put the keyboard midi I/O directly through the UM880 and manually select the FS1R, The evolver will not respond to midi from logic . The evolver parameter 7,7 and 7,8 are set according to the manual for keyboard or midi. (All)

Mac mini 2.66Ghz 750 GB HD 8GB Ram is running Snow Leopard 6.8. Logic version 9.1.4.

The Question is how can I make the non class compliant device sound through logic?

Re: [DSI Synths] Re: How to connect

2011-07-14 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

Is record enabled/armed for their tracks when you try and play either the evolver or the fs1r via logic?

You say, "the midi indicator in logic shows they are receiving midi input," but does the UM880 show midi data coming in (and going out) on the correct channels when you send it midi data from logic?

On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:14 AM, James Holloway wrote:


This is how Audio Midi Setup is configured:

PCR800 keyboard/controller connected via usb to mac mini. Set to use internal MIDI interface in the keyboard. ( I've tried both settings on and off ) Midi cables go to the UM880 midi connections 1. If I turn the interface setting on the FS1R will play via the midi connections but this bypasses Logic.

DSI Tetr4 connected to Mac Mini via USB. (Logic can send Midi from keyboard to this) I can play through keyboard or logic. If the keyboard interface is turned on then the FS1R and the Tetr4 both play simultaneously. (unwanted behavior)

Eridol UM880 connected to Mac Mini via usb. Appears in Audio Midi Setup and can have devices connected. Appears to work, but…

Yamaha FS1R connected to midi midi connectors 4 I/O of UM880.
DSI Evolver connected to midi Midi connectors 3 I/O of UM880.

I am able to create midi instruments for all of the connected midi devices. I have double checked the midi channels to insure they are correct. Logic sees the devices connected to the correct ports of the um880. (it call them ports).

All devices have their audio outs going through an external mixer to speakers and I can hear them when triggered by on device buttons.

The Tetr4 can receive midi from both logic and from the keyboard thru logic and it does sound through speakers.

Neither of the other units respond to midi generated from the keyboard, but the midi indicator in logic shows they are receiving midi input, They just don't sound unless I set the keyboard internal interface on then the FS1R plays ( not through Logic though ).

In summary, devices connected through USB (class compliant) seem to work. Regular midi devices connected through the UM880 do not respond.

The FS1R will respond to midi input throughout the um880 when I put the keyboard midi I/O directly through the UM880 and manually select the FS1R, The evolver will not respond to midi from logic . The evolver parameter 7,7 and 7,8 are set according to the manual for keyboard or midi. (All)

Mac mini 2.66Ghz 750 GB HD 8GB Ram is running Snow Leopard 6.8. Logic version 9.1.4.

The Question is how can I make the non class compliant device sound through logic?


Re: [DSI Synths] Re: How to connect

2011-07-14 by Damian Schmidtke

On 14/07/2011 15:14, James Holloway wrote:
Hello,
Can you connect your midi controller to your Audio-Midi interface via Midi cable?
Try to use midi connections only for your set-up.
Also check witch interface you using within Logic to trigger your gear (im sure you can choose the midi device in midi clip/track. Eg from in-> PCR800 to out -> tetra usb or UM880). Im not familiar with any of your gear or logic so I may be wrong.
Hope this help.
Sry for my bad english.\ufffd
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This is how Audio Midi Setup is configured:

PCR800 keyboard/controller connected via usb to mac mini. Set to use internal MIDI interface in the keyboard. ( I've tried both settings on and off )\ufffdMidi cables go to the UM880 midi connections 1. If I turn the interface setting on the FS1R will play via the midi connections but this bypasses Logic.

DSI Tetr4 connected to Mac Mini via USB. (Logic can send Midi from keyboard to this)\ufffdI can play through keyboard or logic. If the keyboard interface is turned on then the FS1R and the Tetr4 both play simultaneously. (unwanted behavior)

Eridol UM880 connected to Mac Mini via usb. Appears in Audio Midi Setup and can have devices connected. Appears to work, but\ufffd\ufffd

Yamaha FS1R connected to midi midi connectors 4 I/O of UM880.\ufffd
DSI Evolver connected to midi Midi connectors 3 I/O of UM880.\ufffd

I am able to create midi instruments for all of the connected midi devices. I have double checked the midi channels to insure they are correct.\ufffdLogic sees the devices connected to the correct ports of the um880. (it call them ports).

All devices have their audio outs going through an external mixer to speakers and I can hear them when triggered by on device buttons.\ufffd

The Tetr4 can receive midi from both logic and from the keyboard thru logic and it does sound through speakers.\ufffd

Neither of the other units respond to midi generated from the keyboard, but the midi indicator in logic shows they are receiving midi input, They just don't sound unless I set the keyboard internal interface on then the FS1R plays ( not through Logic though ).\ufffd

In summary, devices connected through USB (class compliant) seem to work. Regular midi devices connected through the UM880 do not respond.\ufffd

The FS1R will respond to midi input throughout the um880 when I put the keyboard midi I/O directly through the UM880 and manually select the FS1R, The evolver will not respond to midi from logic .\ufffd\ufffdThe evolver parameter 7,7 and 7,8 are set according to the manual for keyboard or midi. (All)

Mac mini 2.66Ghz 750 GB HD 8GB Ram is running Snow Leopard 6.8. Logic version 9.1.4.\ufffd

The Question is how can I make the non class compliant device sound through logic?


[DSI Synths] Re: How to connect

2011-11-27 by doobryfubry

It looks like a channeling issue.

You need to set the ransmit/receive channels in each device to transmit/receive on a single channel rather than the default omni.

I use chan 15 for the Tetra.

If you set up a new midi multi instrument in logic within the environment and set it to the interface and channel for the tetra that works for me.

Then the default instrument can be used for the other items.



--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Damian Schmidtke <d.sthmideke@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> On 14/07/2011 15:14, James Holloway wrote:
> Hello,
> Can you connect your midi controller to your Audio-Midi interface via 
> Midi cable?
> Try to use midi connections only for your set-up.
> Also check witch interface you using within Logic to trigger your gear 
> (im sure you can choose the midi device in midi clip/track. Eg from in-> 
> PCR800 to out -> tetra usb or UM880). Im not familiar with any of your 
> gear or logic so I may be wrong.
> Hope this help.
> Sry for my bad english.
> >
> > This is how Audio Midi Setup is configured:
> >
> > PCR800 keyboard/controller connected via usb to mac mini. Set to use 
> > internal MIDI interface in the keyboard. ( I've tried both settings on 
> > and off ) Midi cables go to the UM880 midi connections 1. If I turn 
> > the interface setting on the FS1R will play via the midi connections 
> > but this bypasses Logic.
> >
> > DSI Tetr4 connected to Mac Mini via USB. (Logic can send Midi from 
> > keyboard to this) I can play through keyboard or logic. If the 
> > keyboard interface is turned on then the FS1R and the Tetr4 both play 
> > simultaneously. (unwanted behavior)
> >
> > Eridol UM880 connected to Mac Mini via usb. Appears in Audio Midi 
> > Setup and can have devices connected. Appears to work, but

> >
> > Yamaha FS1R connected to midi midi connectors 4 I/O of UM880.
> > DSI Evolver connected to midi Midi connectors 3 I/O of UM880.
> >
> > I am able to create midi instruments for all of the connected midi 
> > devices. I have double checked the midi channels to insure they are 
> > correct. Logic sees the devices connected to the correct ports of the 
> > um880. (it call them ports).
> >
> > All devices have their audio outs going through an external mixer to 
> > speakers and I can hear them when triggered by on device buttons.
> >
> > The Tetr4 can receive midi from both logic and from the keyboard thru 
> > logic and it does sound through speakers.
> >
> > Neither of the other units respond to midi generated from the 
> > keyboard, but the midi indicator in logic shows they are receiving 
> > midi input, They just don't sound unless I set the keyboard internal 
> > interface on then the FS1R plays ( not through Logic though ).
> >
> > In summary, devices connected through USB (class compliant) seem to 
> > work. Regular midi devices connected through the UM880 do not respond.
> >
> > The FS1R will respond to midi input throughout the um880 when I put 
> > the keyboard midi I/O directly through the UM880 and manually select 
> > the FS1R, The evolver will not respond to midi from logic .  The 
> > evolver parameter 7,7 and 7,8 are set according to the manual for 
> > keyboard or midi. (All)
> >
> > Mac mini 2.66Ghz 750 GB HD 8GB Ram is running Snow Leopard 6.8. Logic 
> > version 9.1.4.
> >
> > The Question is how can I make the non class compliant device sound 
> > through logic?
> >
> >
>

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