Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

Sorry guys.  If I had a guitar, I'd give it a shot and send you a 
patch.  

Are you using the Input Gain to tailor the response?  Are you 
comfortable and experienced with programming analog subtractive 
synths?  

It's kind of hard to tell exactly what your trouble might be based on 
your rather generic descriptions (such as, "I've been having a heck 
of a time trying to get it to respond and process the guitar." and "I 
could not find any that quite did what i was thinking on the unit 
already.").

Anyone else here a guitar player that's using the Evolver as an 
effects box?

This has to be cool for a guitar!  Among other things, I can just 
imagine programming the sequencer to step through different filter 
values, feedback frequencies, amplitude modulation, etc. for a unique 
guitar sound.


Ski
www.ex5tech.com
EX5Tech Evolver forum:
http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Wiper" <craigw@s...> wrote:
> I wrote to the group a while back asking for a good way to use the 
Evolver as an audio (guitar) processor, and got no response. I would 
love to find out how to get the thing to trigger and process my 
guitar audio signal easily. I've been having a heck of a time trying 
to get it to respond and process the guitar.
> 
> So, I'd also be interested in finding audio/filter patches, 
techniques.
> 
> Best regards,
> Craig
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: linuxmanvan 
>   To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 6:24 PM
>   Subject: [Evolver] simple guitar env filter patch
> 
> 
>   I am having a hard time getting a decent envelope filter sound 
out of
>   my evolver when processing my guitar. Does anyone have a decent 
patch
>   that shows this? I could not find any that quite did what i was
>   thinking on the unit already ( pfunk , etc )
>   Thanks
> 
> 
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Hi All,

I've uploaded two patches using the envelope follower as a mod 
source. The first is an envelope filter filter.  The second is an 
envelope flanger.

Check them out and see if they (along with Ski's tips) work as a 
starting point.

Regards,
Gary 


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "ski_ex5tech" <ex5tech@e...> 
wrote:
> Sorry guys.  If I had a guitar, I'd give it a shot and send you a 
> patch.  
> 
> Are you using the Input Gain to tailor the response?  Are you 
> comfortable and experienced with programming analog subtractive 
> synths?  
> 
> It's kind of hard to tell exactly what your trouble might be based 
on 
> your rather generic descriptions (such as, "I've been having a heck 
> of a time trying to get it to respond and process the guitar." 
and "I 
> could not find any that quite did what i was thinking on the unit 
> already.").
> 
> Anyone else here a guitar player that's using the Evolver as an 
> effects box?
> 
> This has to be cool for a guitar!  Among other things, I can just 
> imagine programming the sequencer to step through different filter 
> values, feedback frequencies, amplitude modulation, etc. for a 
unique 
> guitar sound.
> 
> 
> Ski
> www.ex5tech.com
> EX5Tech Evolver forum:
> http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23
> 
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Wiper" <craigw@s...> 
wrote:
> > I wrote to the group a while back asking for a good way to use 
the 
> Evolver as an audio (guitar) processor, and got no response. I 
would 
> love to find out how to get the thing to trigger and process my 
> guitar audio signal easily. I've been having a heck of a time 
trying 

> to get it to respond and process the guitar.
> > 
> > So, I'd also be interested in finding audio/filter patches, 
> techniques.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Craig
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: linuxmanvan 
> >   To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
> >   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 6:24 PM
> >   Subject: [Evolver] simple guitar env filter patch
> > 
> > 
> >   I am having a hard time getting a decent envelope filter sound 
> out of
> >   my evolver when processing my guitar. Does anyone have a decent 
> patch
> >   that shows this? I could not find any that quite did what i was
> >   thinking on the unit already ( pfunk , etc )
> >   Thanks
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Hi Craig,
Assuming you understand the Evolver's various triggering options 
(Manual 1.0 Page 26) 'Trigger Select', or the good old 'VCA Level' = 
100 trick:

With guitar cable into 'Left In',
Turn down all OSCs/LFOs/etc and open the filter cutoff to max.
Raise 'Volume' to 100.
Set 'Ext In Mode' to "L".
Raise 'Ext In Vol' to 100.
Adjust 'Input Gain' accordingly.
You should hear something.
Adjust desired parameters accordingly.

I just sent an un-amped bass guitar into Evolver this way and it 
worked for me.
Don't forget about the Distortions, Input Hack, or the 'In Peak Amt' 
and 'Env Fol Amt' mod sources!

Have fun,
Chris

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Wiper" <craigw@s...> wrote:
> Hi Ski. Mainly, I can't seem to get the 'audio' signal of my guitar 
to pass through the Evolver. I can get the guitar to 'trigger' 
things. I just can't figure out how to route the actual audio signal 
so I can hear, say, it being modified by the filter. 
>   > Best regards,
>   > Craig

Hi Craig,

Were they not corrrupted, they would load into bank 1, patch 128.

I'll re-dump and re-upload today.  Sorry. :(

Regards,
Gary

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Wiper" <craigw@s...> wrote:
> I've downloaded them and can't tell what bank and patch number 
they're using. Can you help here?
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> Craig Wiper
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: mr_rock 
>   To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 3:57 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Evolver] simple guitar env filter patch
> 
> 
>   Hi All,
> 
>   I've uploaded two patches using the envelope follower as a mod 
>   source. The first is an envelope filter filter.  The second is an 
>   envelope flanger.
> 
>   Check them out and see if they (along with Ski's tips) work as a 
>   starting point.
> 
>   Regards,
>   Gary 
> 
> 
>   --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "ski_ex5tech" <ex5tech@e...> 
>   wrote:
>   > Sorry guys.  If I had a guitar, I'd give it a shot and send you 
a 
>   > patch.  
>   > 
>   > Are you using the Input Gain to tailor the response?  Are you 
>   > comfortable and experienced with programming analog subtractive 
>   > synths?  
>   > 
>   > It's kind of hard to tell exactly what your trouble might be 
based 
>   on 
>   > your rather generic descriptions (such as, "I've been having a 
heck 
>   > of a time trying to get it to respond and process the guitar." 
>   and "I 
>   > could not find any that quite did what i was thinking on the 
unit 
>   > already.").
>   > 
>   > Anyone else here a guitar player that's using the Evolver as an 
>   > effects box?
>   > 
>   > This has to be cool for a guitar!  Among other things, I can 
just 
>   > imagine programming the sequencer to step through different 
filter 
>   > values, feedback frequencies, amplitude modulation, etc. for a 
>   unique 
>   > guitar sound.
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Ski
>   > www.ex5tech.com
>   > EX5Tech Evolver forum:
>   > http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23
>   > 
>   > 
>   > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Wiper" <craigw@s...> 
>   wrote:
>   > > I wrote to the group a while back asking for a good way to 
use 
>   the 
>   > Evolver as an audio (guitar) processor, and got no response. I 
>   would 
>   > love to find out how to get the thing to trigger and process my 
>   > guitar audio signal easily. I've been having a heck of a time 
>   trying 
>   > to get it to respond and process the guitar.
>   > > 
>   > > So, I'd also be interested in finding audio/filter patches, 
>   > techniques.
>   > > 
>   > > Best regards,
>   > > Craig
>   > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > >   From: linuxmanvan 
>   > >   To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
>   > >   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 6:24 PM
>   > >   Subject: [Evolver] simple guitar env filter patch
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > >   I am having a hard time getting a decent envelope filter 
sound 
>   > out of
>   > >   my evolver when processing my guitar. Does anyone have a 
decent 
>   > patch
>   > >   that shows this? I could not find any that quite did what i 
was
>   > >   thinking on the unit already ( pfunk , etc )
>   > >   Thanks
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
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I've reposted the the patches.  Have another try.

Regards,
Gary

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "mr_rock" <mr_rock@c...> wrote:
> Hi Craig,
> 
> Were they not corrrupted, they would load into bank 1, patch 128.
> 
> I'll re-dump and re-upload today.  Sorry. :(
> 
> Regards,
> Gary
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Wiper" <craigw@s...> 
wrote:
> > I've downloaded them and can't tell what bank and patch number 
> they're using. Can you help here?
> > 
> > Thanks for your time,
> > Craig Wiper
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: mr_rock 
> >   To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
> >   Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 3:57 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [Evolver] simple guitar env filter patch
> > 
> > 
> >   Hi All,
> > 
> >   I've uploaded two patches using the envelope follower as a mod 
> >   source. The first is an envelope filter filter.  The second is 
an 
> >   envelope flanger.
> > 
> >   Check them out and see if they (along with Ski's tips) work as 
a 
> >   starting point.
> > 
> >   Regards,
> >   Gary 
> > 
> > 
> >   --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "ski_ex5tech" 
<ex5tech@e...> 
> >   wrote:
> >   > Sorry guys.  If I had a guitar, I'd give it a shot and send 
you 
> a 
> >   > patch.  
> >   > 
> >   > Are you using the Input Gain to tailor the response?  Are you 
> >   > comfortable and experienced with programming analog 
subtractive 
> >   > synths?  
> >   > 
> >   > It's kind of hard to tell exactly what your trouble might be 
> based 
> >   on 
> >   > your rather generic descriptions (such as, "I've been having 
a 
> heck 
> >   > of a time trying to get it to respond and process the 
guitar." 
> >   and "I 
> >   > could not find any that quite did what i was thinking on the 
> unit 
> >   > already.").
> >   > 
> >   > Anyone else here a guitar player that's using the Evolver as 
an 
> >   > effects box?
> >   > 
> >   > This has to be cool for a guitar!  Among other things, I can 
> just 
> >   > imagine programming the sequencer to step through different 
> filter 
> >   > values, feedback frequencies, amplitude modulation, etc. for 
a 
> >   unique 
> >   > guitar sound.
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > Ski
> >   > www.ex5tech.com
> >   > EX5Tech Evolver forum:
> >   > http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?
ubb=forum&f=23
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Wiper" 
<craigw@s...> 
> >   wrote:
> >   > > I wrote to the group a while back asking for a good way to 
> use 
> >   the 
> >   > Evolver as an audio (guitar) processor, and got no response. 
I 
> >   would 
> >   > love to find out how to get the thing to trigger and process 
my 
> >   > guitar audio signal easily. I've been having a heck of a time 
> >   trying 
> >   > to get it to respond and process the guitar.
> >   > > 
> >   > > So, I'd also be interested in finding audio/filter patches, 
> >   > techniques.
> >   > > 
> >   > > Best regards,
> >   > > Craig
> >   > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   > >   From: linuxmanvan 
> >   > >   To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
> >   > >   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 6:24 PM
> >   > >   Subject: [Evolver] simple guitar env filter patch
> >   > > 
> >   > > 
> >   > >   I am having a hard time getting a decent envelope filter 
> sound 
> >   > out of
> >   > >   my evolver when processing my guitar. Does anyone have a 
> decent 
> >   > patch
> >   > >   that shows this? I could not find any that quite did what 
i 
> was
> >   > >   thinking on the unit already ( pfunk , etc )
> >   > >   Thanks
> >   > > 
> >   > > 
> >   > > 
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