Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

In re: this issure w/the DTXII module and external MIDI devices not
working....

I would like to ask if someone who has experienced the problem could
recreate PRECISELY what they do to *demonstrate* the problem. I'd like to
see if I could make this symptom appear using my setup here. I have a
pretty good experience w/computers and MIDI and I'd like to know if this
is a problem that my DTXII might be succeptable to or if this is a
problem that only mainfests in other people's setups?

Maybe a detailed, step-by-step description would allow others to provide
comment when they try to replicate the symptoms w/their setup? For
example, you could do a description like this:

1-Turn on the DTXPressII and do a factory reset
2-Place the HOST SELECT switch on the DTXpressII into "MIDI" position.
3-Connect a MIDI cable from the MIDI out port of a regular MIDI keyboard
to the MIDI in port of the DTXpress module
4-Press the VOICE button on the DTXpressII
5-Press the value + button until you see "27 JamKit 99"
6-Set the MIDI keyboard to MIDI channel 10
7-Press the MIDDLE C on the keyboard
8-The DTXPressII makes the sound of a 1)truck horn if not working 2)snare
drum if working correctly

This would allow all of us to test the process and see if our system are
(not) functioning as expected. Trying diligently to be more helpful than
annoying.... :)
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Steve Parker said:
> I have the number 11 in my display.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Walt
>   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:55 PM
>   Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Re: Looking for DTXpress II , MIDI help
>
>
>   Hey Steve,
>
>   What, if anything, shows up on your PM-16s display
>   when you're in play mode?  Walt
>   --- Steve Parker <stepar@...> wrote:
>   > Hi,
>   > I've been trying to follow all these posts, but I've
>   > been out of town and haven't had a chance to get
>   > caught up with all the e-mails.  My PM-16 is working
>   > fine with my DTXpress 1 kit.  The only problem I
>   > have, which we haven't yet been able to solve, is
>   > that I don't know how to treat the settings as a
>   > kit, so I can change them as I change my DTX kits,
>   > either infependently or in conjunction with the DTX.
>   >  By using the PM-16, I have been able to add 4
>   > additional triggers on to my set.  As long as I use
>   > them as triggers I don't want to change, then there
>   > is less of a problem.  I can do all my changes on
>   > the DTX.  I'll try to read the numerous posts and
>   > see if there is anything I can add.
>   >
>   > Steve
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: underneathheaven <realvast@...>
>   >   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   >   Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 2:04 PM
>   >   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Looking for DTXpress II ,
>   > MIDI help
>   >
>   >
>   >   I have not yet heard from steve, but maybe jade
>   > has?
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, jade
>   > <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
>   >   > My sentiments EXACTLY...Thanks UNH!...I haven't
>   > given
>   >   > up yet either, but if I have to, I will be
>   > buying a
>   >   > new module also.....These guys in this group are
>   >   > GREAT!!...Jade--- "underneathheaven
>   >   > <realvast@s...>" <realvast@s...> wrote:
>   >   > > I just wanted to thank everyone for all the
>   > help!!
>   >   > > I'm really
>   >   > > disappointed about this situation but I
>   > haven't
>   >   > > given up yet.  The
>   >   > > good thing is I can still expand even if the
>   > pm16
>   >   > > doesnt work, I'll
>   >   > > just have to buy another midi source or module
>   > I
>   >   > > guess...  I'd be
>   >   > > lost without this group, I swear!
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
>   >   > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Walt
>   > <wgardus@y...>
>   >   > > wrote:
>   >   > > > yup, trying to stay awake through them
>   > too....
>   >   > > > --- "liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@y...>"
>   >   > > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
>   >   > > > > Good Morning, Vern,
>   >   > > > >
>   >   > > > > You hit the nail on the head. What would
>   > seem to
>   >   > > be
>   >   > > > > a
>   >   > > > > straightforward use of the DTX midi
>   > function
>   >   > > won't
>   >   > > > > work with the
>   >   > > > > DTXII. My own experience with a midiKITI
>   > and
>   >   > > Walt's
>   >   > > > > with a PM-16,
>   >   > > > > however, confirm that earlier iterations
>   > of the
>   >   > > > > Xpress module were
>   >   > > > > most cooperative. I gather that Walt seems
>   > to
>   >   > > think,
>   >   > > > > from your
>   >   > > > > experience and others', that the fault
>   > lies with
>   >   > > the
>   >   > > > > external
>   >   > > > > devices. But our troubleshooting would
>   > seem to
>   >   > > > > indicate otherwise. A
>   >   > > > > Yamaha "apps specialist" apparently did
>   > the midi
>   >   > > > > keyboard test for
>   >   > > > > Jade, and it came up unsuccessful, thereby
>   >   > > prompting
>   >   > > > > him to tell
>   >   > > > > Jade that using an external device with
>   > the
>   >   > > DTXII
>   >   > > > > was impossible.
>   >   > > > > Then he hit Jade with the party line,
>   > "DTXpress
>   >   > > > > users shouldn't need
>   >   > > > > anything else." The comment was neither
>   >   > > sympathetic,
>   >   > > > > accurate, nor
>   >   > > > > satisfactory, given, at least, the
>   > capabilities
>   >   > > of
>   >   > > > > other DTXpress
>   >   > > > > modules et al. And why for the life of me
>   > would
>   >   > > > > Yamaha personnel
>   >   > > > > have to run  essentially the same
>   > heuristic test
>   >   > > on
>   >   > > > > the module that
>   >   > > > > we've been running? Someone at that
>   > company
>   >   > > designed
>   >   > > > > it. You'd think
>   >   > > > > that they'd have a ready answer for so
>   > likely a
>   >   > > > > question.
>   >   > > > >
>   >   > > > > Unless there's something we've overlooked
>   > (like
>   >   > > the
>   >   > > > > proverbial
>   >   > > > > unplugged power cord or the like), this is
>   > a
>   >   > > major
>   >   > > > > flaw in the new
>   >   > > > > DTXII, which would seem to have designed
>   > out, by
>   >   > > > > error or intention,
>   >   > > > > a selling point of the original DTXpress.
>   > Not to
>   >   > > > > mention the time
>   >   > > > > and effort that people have invested in
>   > their
>   >   > > > > exploration of this
>   >   > > > > problem, Jade and UNH have spent a good
>   > deal of
>   >   > > > > money on something
>   >   > > > > that common sense and precedent would have
>   > said
>   >   > > was
>   >   > > > > well spent.
>   >   > > > > Maybe Jade and UNH will come up with
>   > something
>   >   > > that
>   >   > > > > will rescue us
>   >   > > > > from this puzzle. I hope so. But boy, it's
>   > been
>   >   > > a
>   >   > > > > frustrating ride.
>   >   > > > > Probably as we speak, Professor Walt is
>   > busy
>   >   > > > > studying manuals and
>   >   > > > > constructing theories.
>   >   > > > >
>   >   > > > > Ed
>   >   > > > >
>   >   > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon
>   > Graner"
>   >   > > > > <vern@t...> wrote:
>   >   > > > > > So, the problem is that the MIDI-kiti
>   > cannot
>   >   > > be
>   >   > > > > set to send
>   >   > > > > specific note
>   >   > > > > > numbers from a specific pad? Or are you
>   > trying
>   >   > > to
>   >   > > > > make the
>   >   > > > > DTXpressII
>   >   > > > > > play a particular sound on a specific
>   > note
>   >   > > number
>   >   > > > > (i.e. Channel
>   >   > > > > 10, MIDI
>   >   > > > > > note C3 makes the sound of a Ride
>   > Cymbal)? It
>   >   > > > > would seem that you
>   >   > > > > would
>   >   > > > > > set the MIDIkiti to channel 10, then
>   > assign a
>   >   > > note
>   >   > > > > number to a pad
>   >   > > > > that
>   >   > > > > > matches with the sound map of the
>   > DTXpress
>   >   > > unit.
>   >   > > > > Is there
>   >   > > > > something I'm
>   >   > > > > > missing in the setup? In the manual, on
>   > page
>   >   > > 42
>   >   > > > > section 1-6,
>   >   > > > > allows you
>   >
>   === message truncated
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