Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "nugeman2004" <kbhammerken@g...> 
wrote:
> the rim hits were, for the most
part,always consistent.I have used the kit for about a year,and have
played several gigs, as well as a lot of recording time. It seems
that if I play a busy passage, the center,which I have set up to be a
different,similar voice ,it will react at most times ok. But if I do
the same on the rim,such as a quick burst of single hits, it will
almost always only respond to half(or less) of the contact.

kb,

If you're not getting the response from the rim that you used to get, 
some kind of deterioration might be indicated. But I'm not sure that 
the rim switch is fast enough to register the kind of fast sticking 
that you'd do on the head proper. It's built more for cross-stick and 
rimshot transients. Hitting the switch is like taking an indirect 
route to the piezo at the center; it's one step removed. 

> I too, have the same issue! when playing as Ed said "heat of the 
> battle" and do an accent of snare and cymbbal, the kick almost 
always 
> will not sound, And I am certainly kicking it! I have tried it with 
> the tower yammy set up , as well as a pintech trigger,the small 
> cylindrical one (scientific,no?) and the results are about the 
same. 
> I did have some issues with the yammy stand up trigger,and had to 
> disassemble and solder the jack terminals back solidly to the pc 
> board...that cured the hit/no sound, but not the no kick response 
> when hitting cymbal(any) and or cymbal/snare /kick...any ideas Ed? 

I assume that you're talking about the KP60 and the Pintech Ergokik. 
The KP60 didn't prove to be a terribly reliable trigger. The archives 
are riddled with people complaining about dropouts as well as double 
triggers. Four years ago, Yamaha sent me two of them to try, and both 
exhibited the same tendencies. I re-soldered and tweaked until I was 
blue in the face without any success. But in my case, and many 
others, the troubles were endemic to the kick pad itself; they were 
coincidental with other events on the kit. From what I gather lately, 
the KP65 has not exhibited this bad behavior. Nor have I heard about 
it with the Pintech. If raising the gain and lowering the rejection 
of the kick don't improve its response when you're hitting other 
pads, the only other cause of sound truncation that comes to mind is 
the module reaching its processing limit--32 voice polyphony. Even 
though this phenomenon  is definitely tied to the heat of battle, it 
Usually won't happen unless you're playing along with prerecorded 
songs on layered pads with long decay times, etc. (make sure that Key 
Assign is set to mono). I suppose that the module could suffer from 
other kinds of overload, but I'm not aware of them. I can say with 
some confidence, however, that it does not pay to drive these kits 
too hard with brute force. Rule of thumb: Learn to play e-drums with 
some restraint, and let the module do the work of creating volume. 

I suppose you could keep experimenting with hitting individual pads 
and the kick at the same time to see if you can reproduce the problem 
with any regularity and narrow it down with the process of 
elimination. You could also test different pad-type settings for 
better triggering. That's all that occurs to me at the moment.

Ed