Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

All,
 
The box certainly works once you spend a little time tweaking it and is
a great way to add some extra pads. The only down side is that you can't
strike both pads at one time that are connected to one input.This is not
a limitation of Keith's design, but rather a limitation with the module
(in fact with anybody's module.)  As long as that limitation is
understood, it would be a great way to upgrade and add extra pads. I
have not sent out the box, it was going out today and I held it up once
I saw your post, figuring we may want to redirected it to Ed Morin.
Keith have you settled on a price point for the box? I know there were
some discussions about this early on, but do you have a price point in
mind?
 
For me personally with having the Dtxtreme IIS modules, I would like to
see a box that could take a stereo pad and convert it two mono inputs,
so that some of the upper mono inputs could be used with stereo pads.
But I am not sure if that market would be any greater than for the
"magic box" as it is currently designed.
 
Just let me know which way you guys want to go. 
 
ED, we could send out a "special notice" to all members here at dtxpress
and see what the interest level is, as it has come up from time to time
over the years. 
 
Let me know how you want to go. If Ed Morin doesn't see this post, we
can forward it to him directly (or he would see it in the Special
Notice.)
 
OGD

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From: emf  
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:15 AM
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Spam:[DTXpress] Re: Yamaha DIY EDrums, Discrete Trigger Box



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" <keith@k...> wrote:
> Ed/OGD - I need to decide soon what to do about the "magic box".  My
> current feeling from the feedback I have had is that while it works,
> setup is tricky.  I seem to be able to get it set up better than
> anyone else, but then I understand exactly what the circuitry is
> doing.  My feeling is that it will be difficult to turn it into a
> simple commercial product.  More adjustments will just make it 
harder
> to set up.  If you think that is a fair assessment, I will post the
> circuits here so anyone can play around who has the inclination.  I
> will make my fortuen elsewhere ;-)

Keith and OGD,

I'm replying in public, if you don't mind, because I'd like all 
interested parties to know what's happening at this point, given how 
much we've been dropping hits about the magic box for the better part 
of a year. OGD was planning to send me some things this week. OGD, if 
you haven't done so already, what do you think of me talking to Ed 
Morin again about the magic box, too see if he'd still be interested 
in checking it out. No one out in the e-drum world has his resources. 
He can check the magic box's compatibility with a range of equipment, 
as well as assess its performance against any similar electronics on 
the market. His opinion about whether it would be worth selling would 
be valuable, to say the least. OGD, from your experience, are you 
agreeable?  

Ed, if you're listening, I don't presume by any stretch of the 
imagination that you have the time and energy for this request, but 
I'd certainly like to ask you first. Keith and OGD, do you think that 
pitching the box to an e-drum company would be worthwhile?

Ed



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> Keith have you settled on a price point for the box? I know there were
> some discussions about this early on, but do you have a price point in
> mind?

I always thought that £100/$100 was the point it needs to be to be
viable, otherwise you may as well buy another module.  This should
easily be achievable in volume.  In modest quantities (say 100) it
makes it more tricky to make money, but it can be done.

Keith.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Damon, Rob" <rdamon@m...> wrote:
  
> ED, we could send out a "special notice" to all members here at 
dtxpress
> and see what the interest level is, as it has come up from time to 
time
> over the years. 
>  
> Let me know how you want to go. If Ed Morin doesn't see this post, 
we
> can forward it to him directly (or he would see it in the Special
> Notice.)

OGD and Keith,

The special notice is an excellent idea. I wish we'd had the sense to 
think of it sooner. Keith, what do you think about me and OGD sending 
out a survey to all members about their interest--their willingness 
to buy--the magic box at $100 or so?  Maybe you won't want to wait 
for this data, especially since we have no guarantee that members 
will respond in force, even if they like what you've done. Our last 
and only special notice, when we took over the site, had a pretty 
good response rate (didn't it?), but it took a while to collate the 
replies. But if you think it worth a try, we'll do it. Ed Morin, as a 
member will eventually see it, but I would prefer that a special 
notice to members not be his re-introduction to this matter.  I could 
email him separately, or OGD could. Should we think about it 
overnight?

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> 
> Keith, what do you think about me and OGD sending 
> out a survey to all members about their interest--their willingness 
> to buy--the magic box at $100 or so?

Yes, that sounds like a good idea.  

Keith.