Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hello group!
This is my first post as I have just bought the DTX III SE.
I'm not very experienced in midi setup, so here's my issue...
I want to connect the edrums to my pc and use them in cubese.
So I'll use a midi cable right? Haven't tried yet but I was thinking 
about the playback. I know I can send midi notes to cubase and then my 
pc will play whatever sample I assign (e.g. NI Battery).
But what do I need to do if I want to record a midi track and then hear 
my pc play the DTX kits? I don't want to use the audio stereo outputs 
as I want to be able to edit my drum tracks afterwards and also keep my 
drum sounds separated on each track...
I hope you understand my bad english. ^__^
And thank you guys.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Mirko" <mirkorn@y...> wrote:
> Hello group!
> This is my first post as I have just bought the DTX III SE.
> I'm not very experienced in midi setup, so here's my issue...
> I want to connect the edrums to my pc and use them in cubese.
> So I'll use a midi cable right? Haven't tried yet but I was 
thinking 
> about the playback. I know I can send midi notes to cubase and then 
my 
> pc will play whatever sample I assign (e.g. NI Battery).
> But what do I need to do if I want to record a midi track and then 
hear 
> my pc play the DTX kits? I don't want to use the audio stereo 
outputs 
> as I want to be able to edit my drum tracks afterwards and also 
keep my 
> drum sounds separated on each track...
> I hope you understand my bad english. ^__^
> And thank you guys.

Hi Mirko,

Welcome to the group. If you want your sequencer to play DTX sounds, 
you have to program it with DTX MIDI note numbers (or actually hit 
the pads) via MIDI OUT from DTX to MIDI IN to your PC/Cubase and play 
them back through the DTX module's tone generator via MIDI OUT from 
your PC and IN to DTX. If you want to hear what you've programmed, 
you have to play it through the DTX audio outs, either speakers or 
headphones. Because nothing on your PC can generate DTX drum tones, 
you can't hear them unless the DTXpress actually plays them; the DTX 
drumkit note numbers will not produce what you intended if played 
back through Battery or any other MIDI program. Playback isn't a 
function of MIDI, only of audio. You can, however, assign each MIDI 
drum note to its own channel (1-16) in the DTX menu system, even if 
you listen to all of the notes together as stereo audio. After you've 
recorded your DTX drums to Cubase with the appropriate note numbers, 
you can edit the results to your heart's content on Cubase.

I've assumed so far that you're recording specific kits on Cubase for 
playback on the DTX.  But you can also use the DTXpress as a pure 
tone generator to access General MIDI (GM) sounds (everthing from 
basoon to xylophone), including drums, so that you can play back a 
wide range of sequenced notes through the DTXpress tone generator. 
The MIDI note numbers for General MIDI purposes are at the back of 
the DTXpress manual somewhere. Using this function requires special 
set up. Consult the manual and/or dtxpressions.com, or search the 
group archives for information about how to access the GM sounds.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:

Thanx a lot emf! (btw is EMF that band of the 90's??)
Anyway, I definetely got the "logic" of the midi setup.
Now it's also time to learn how to play drums!! :)
(I'm starting now at 31 years old!)


> Hi Mirko,
> 
> Welcome to the group. If you want your sequencer to play DTX 
sounds, 
> you have to program it with DTX MIDI note numbers (or actually hit 
> the pads) via MIDI OUT from DTX to MIDI IN to your PC/Cubase and 
play 
> them back through the DTX module's tone generator via MIDI OUT from 
> your PC and IN to DTX. If you want to hear what you've programmed, 
> you have to play it through the DTX audio outs, either speakers or 
> headphones. Because nothing on your PC can generate DTX drum tones, 
> you can't hear them unless the DTXpress actually plays them; the 
DTX 
> drumkit note numbers will not produce what you intended if played 
> back through Battery or any other MIDI program. Playback isn't a 
> function of MIDI, only of audio. You can, however, assign each MIDI 
> drum note to its own channel (1-16) in the DTX menu system, even if 
> you listen to all of the notes together as stereo audio. After 
you've 
> recorded your DTX drums to Cubase with the appropriate note 
numbers, 
> you can edit the results to your heart's content on Cubase.
> 
> I've assumed so far that you're recording specific kits on Cubase 
for 

> playback on the DTX.  But you can also use the DTXpress as a pure 
> tone generator to access General MIDI (GM) sounds (everthing from 
> basoon to xylophone), including drums, so that you can play back a 
> wide range of sequenced notes through the DTXpress tone generator. 
> The MIDI note numbers for General MIDI purposes are at the back of 
> the DTXpress manual somewhere. Using this function requires special 
> set up. Consult the manual and/or dtxpressions.com, or search the 
> group archives for information about how to access the GM sounds.
> 
> Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Mirko" <mirkorn@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> 
> Thanx a lot emf! (btw is EMF that band of the 90's??)
> Anyway, I definetely got the "logic" of the midi setup.
> Now it's also time to learn how to play drums!! :)
> (I'm starting now at 31 years old!)

Mirko,

Yes, a band called EMF seems to have haunted the 90s for a brief 
moment. However, I prefer to be associated with electro magnetic 
force, which is probably the derivation of the band's name. Actually, 
emf are my initials. I switched to them a couple of years ago when 
someone asked one of the other moderators whether my original handle 
of liberatusvirus (the literal Latin translation of my last name) 
signified a computer virus. I may be a virus, but I'm not that kind 
of virus--I don't think.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:

> emf are my initials. I switched to them a couple of years ago when 
> someone asked one of the other moderators whether my original handle 
> of liberatusvirus (the literal Latin translation of my last name) 

Itwould be like "free virus" or "freed virus" I guess. I'm 
italian...so maybe latin is not much of a dead language for me ;-)

Anyway, going back to In Topic stuff:
is there a way to dump DTX kits onto computer for sampler use?
Or maybe, are the kit available on the web?
I know I can find even better kits on the web, but some of DTX built-
in kits are really cool for me.
Thank you emf.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Mirko" <mirkorn@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> is there a way to dump DTX kits onto computer for sampler use?
> Or maybe, are the kit available on the web?
> I know I can find even better kits on the web, but some of DTX built-
> in kits are really cool for me.

We have a program called dtxchange at dtxpressions.com that permits 
data from the DTXpress to be stored on a PC. However, the format for 
the DTXpress is not accessible to, or authorized for, samplers. 
However, there are so many very good percussion sampling packages 
available now that Yamaha's sounds could hardly be missed. Some are 
expensive, and some not. The recently released disk with Clavia's 
cleaned up ddrum samples, to my mind, would be worth a little money, 
for example, though maybe not to everyone.

Ed