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New member with crosstalk

New member with crosstalk

2006-04-19 by boy.hekman

Hi all,

i'm a new member from The Netherlands and i just bought the DTXpress 
III (standard) and connected it...

First of all i'm a geek when it comes to setting up electronic 
devices (such as a drum module :)

The problem is crosstalk and i really do not know how to get rid of 
it...it's with hihat/snare and tom1/snare.
Other problem is the hihat controller...i must really stamp on it to 
get the closed hihat..what's there to do?

I don't know what self rejecting and rejecting is...the manual is too 
difficult for someone who isn't that good in English and don't know 
words like rejection en stuff like that...

Is there someone (from The Netherlands) who can help me setting up 
this device over an instant messaging program or something?

Thanks in advance,
Boy Hekman
Netherlands

Re: New member with crosstalk

2006-04-19 by Keith

Boy,

You need to play with the "rejection settings".  "Self rejection" is
to prevent you getting the same sound twice when you only hit the pad
once.  This isn't your problem, but it is worth knowing.  If you start
getting a double sound, increase the self rejection.  If a pad starts
missing beats (when nothing else is being hit) then reduce the self
rejeciton setting for that pad.

"Specific rejection" deals with the cross triggering problem.  The
problems you are having are not uncommon.  If you hit the hi-hat (pad
8) and get the snare sound as well (pad 2), you need to increase the
specific rejection for the snare.  Go to the trigger settings for pad
2.  "SPCrej" is the value, "frm" is the pad which is causing the cross
trigger ("from").  Normally pad 2 has a specific rejection from pad 8
and vice versa.  So, you may need to play around increasing the SPCrej
value for the pads you are having problems with.  If you increase it
too far you will start to miss real hits.

For the hi-hat foot problem, you need to adjust the "HH OffS" in the
trigger menu (hi-hat offset).  A lower value will make it more
sensitive.  The T value on the same trigger setting is the splash
detect time.  Try increasing that if you are having trouble getting
the "splash" sound.

Keith.

Re: New member with crosstalk

2006-04-19 by xillion2one

I'd like to add something here:
Always write down the current settings before you begin messing with 
them, unless you don't mind occasionally resetting the module to 
factory defaults.
-joeR-

Re: [DTXpress] Re: New member with crosstalk

2006-04-20 by Boy Hekman

Thanks Keith,
everything works fine now!!
hihat works...no more cross triggering...
set both the hihat and snare to value 6...
hihat offset to -30 and T to 20..
another question.....
how can i make a real phat snare

Keith wrote:
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Boy,

You need to play with the "rejection settings". "Self rejection" is
to prevent you getting the same sound twice when you only hit the pad
once. This isn't your problem, but it is worth knowing. If you start
getting a double sound, increase the self rejection. If a pad starts
missing beats (when nothing else is being hit) then reduce the self
rejeciton setting for that pad.

"Specific rejection" deals with the cross triggering problem. The
problems you are having are not uncommon. If you hit the hi-hat (pad
8) and get the snare sound as well (pad 2), you need to increase the
specific rejection for the snare. Go to the trigger settings for pad
2. "SPCrej" is the value, "frm" is the pad which is causing the cross
trigger ("from"). Normally pad 2 has a specific rejection from pad 8
and vice versa. So, you may need to play around increasing the SPCrej
value for the pads you are having problems with. If you increase it
too far you will start to miss real hits.

For the hi-hat foot problem, you need to adjust the "HH OffS" in the
trigger menu (hi-hat offset). A lower value will make it more
sensitive. The T value on the same trigger setting is the splash
detect time. Try increasing that if you are having trouble getting
the "splash" sound.

Keith.





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Re: New member with crosstalk

2006-04-20 by Keith

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Boy Hekman <boy.hekman@...> wrote:
>   another question.....
>   how can i make a real phat snare

Check out the standard kits and see if there is one that you like the
sound of.  Kit 7 is PHATT.  To get a full sound you can "layer" two
voices.  When editing a voice for a pad, you will see a value V=1. 
This is voice 1.  You can assign another sound to voice 2 so that both
sounds will sound when the pad is hit.  So you could have a snare and
tom sound simultaneously from the snare pad, for example.  You can
also alter the way these sounds are mixed together - check out "layer
balance" and "cross fade" in the manual.

Keith.

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