Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Even though I've got it set to "SP Med" and the pad is set to "RHH", the only sounds that I can get from my hi-hat are the closed sounds.

I've taken the hi-hat cord and plugged it into the ride, leaving the hi-hat controller cord where it is, and still cannot get a closed sound.  I've disassembled my RHH 130 and everything appears to be in order (all cords are plugged in and all parts are where they should be).

The only way that I can produce a closed sound is if I leave the hi-hat cord almost completely unplugged, just barely dangling in the jack.  But, then I can only get the closed sound and no open sound.

Any suggestions for me?

I meant all I can get it the open sounds, not the closed sounds.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "b33m4n" <beezorz@...> wrote:

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> Even though I've got it set to "SP Med" and the pad is set to "RHH", the only sounds that I can get from my hi-hat are the closed sounds.
> 
> I've taken the hi-hat cord and plugged it into the ride, leaving the hi-hat controller cord where it is, and still cannot get a closed sound.  I've disassembled my RHH 130 and everything appears to be in order (all cords are plugged in and all parts are where they should be).
> 
> The only way that I can produce a closed sound is if I leave the hi-hat cord almost completely unplugged, just barely dangling in the jack.  But, then I can only get the closed sound and no open sound.
> 
> Any suggestions for me?
>

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "b33m4n" <beezorz@...> wrote:
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> Even though I've got it set to "SP Med" and the pad is set to "RHH", the only sounds that I can get from my hi-hat are the closed sounds.
> 
> I've taken the hi-hat cord and plugged it into the ride, leaving the hi-hat controller cord where it is, and still cannot get a closed sound.  I've disassembled my RHH 130 and everything appears to be in order (all cords are plugged in and all parts are where they should be).
> 
> The only way that I can produce a closed sound is if I leave the hi-hat cord almost completely unplugged, just barely dangling in the jack.  But, then I can only get the closed sound and no open sound.
> 
> Any suggestions for me?
>

It would be useful to know which module you have.  Also, have you just added the RHH or did it come with the kit?

The RHH has two cables - one for the pad and the other for the hi-hat controller - equivalent to the pedal.  Both must be stereo cables.

I assume you have the instruction sheet?  In there it explains what to set the module to for each module type.  Assuming you have done that, and tried swapping cables to make sure you haven't a faulty one, there are a couple of other possibilities (I am only surmising as I don't have the RHH).  You need to get the hi-hat physically set up correctly, as explained in the instruction leaflet.  I am not sure how good the instructions are, but I believe it is possible to get it physically set up so nothing happens (as you are experiencing), presumably because the hi-hat control is at one extreme of the adjustment.

The other possibility is the hi-hat control settings in the module.  There is an offset adjustment (HH Offs) in the trigger setting menu which can be set either too high or too low so the pedal does nothing.  Zero is usually a good starting point for the value.

I hope this helps. 

Keith.

Thanks for your reply, Keith.

I have the DTXpress III Special kit which came with the RHH130.
Both cables that are being used by the hi-hat are stereo and both work equally when I swap them out with other stereo cables.

I have followed the instructions on how to set up the hi-hat as well as I can, going over the process repeatedly.  So I can only assume it's done correctly.

I'll give the HH Offs adjustment and try and see how that goes.


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "keith1200rs" <keith@...> wrote:

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> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "b33m4n" <beezorz@> wrote:
> >
> > Even though I've got it set to "SP Med" and the pad is set to "RHH", the only sounds that I can get from my hi-hat are the closed sounds.
> > 
> > I've taken the hi-hat cord and plugged it into the ride, leaving the hi-hat controller cord where it is, and still cannot get a closed sound.  I've disassembled my RHH 130 and everything appears to be in order (all cords are plugged in and all parts are where they should be).
> > 
> > The only way that I can produce a closed sound is if I leave the hi-hat cord almost completely unplugged, just barely dangling in the jack.  But, then I can only get the closed sound and no open sound.
> > 
> > Any suggestions for me?
> >
> 
> It would be useful to know which module you have.  Also, have you just added the RHH or did it come with the kit?
> 
> The RHH has two cables - one for the pad and the other for the hi-hat controller - equivalent to the pedal.  Both must be stereo cables.
> 
> I assume you have the instruction sheet?  In there it explains what to set the module to for each module type.  Assuming you have done that, and tried swapping cables to make sure you haven't a faulty one, there are a couple of other possibilities (I am only surmising as I don't have the RHH).  You need to get the hi-hat physically set up correctly, as explained in the instruction leaflet.  I am not sure how good the instructions are, but I believe it is possible to get it physically set up so nothing happens (as you are experiencing), presumably because the hi-hat control is at one extreme of the adjustment.
> 
> The other possibility is the hi-hat control settings in the module.  There is an offset adjustment (HH Offs) in the trigger setting menu which can be set either too high or too low so the pedal does nothing.  Zero is usually a good starting point for the value.
> 
> I hope this helps. 
> 
> Keith.
>

This problem has cropped up before, but is usually because the modules default to a normal HH, even if you bought the Special kit.  You could try a factory reset (but you will lose all your custom settings) and then you would have to edit the trigger setting back to RHH.  I hope the HH Offset fixes it.  

It could be a faulty RHH, although it is fairly rare.  If you have a multimeter I can give you some things to check (resistances as you move the pedal) which would tell you if the pedal is working.

Keith.

Hi Keith
I was one of the people having this problem... the dtx-I brain will fry it's self every so often...it's probably a ground problem. it does wierd things that you can't fix until you reset to factory.

I have written all my settings onto a factory reset settings page with all the setting changes I need to make, things like the RHH130 and pintech cymbals and toms and bass trigger settings... also the kit voices our drummer likes, with a cow bell and the bell sound on one of the toms... this just makes it easy to do this each time it happens! it happens about every 3 months... just long enough to forget what to do...lol
Tom
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Re: Trouble with RHH 130 hi-hat
Posted by: "keith1200rs" keith@...   keith1200rs
Tue Jan 5, 2010 3:15 pm (PST)

This problem has cropped up before, but is usually because the modules default to a normal HH, even if you bought the Special kit. You could try a factory reset (but you will lose all your custom settings) and then you would have to edit the trigger setting back to RHH. I hope the HH Offset fixes it. 

It could be a faulty RHH, although it is fairly rare. If you have a multimeter I can give you some things to check (resistances as you move the pedal) which would tell you if the pedal is working.

Keith.


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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Tom Watson <palomineo@...> wrote:
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> Hi Keith
> I was one of the people having this problem

Tom,

Yes - I did a search on the problem and spotted your posts.  I couldn't find anyone who had problems that weren't setup related.

You could always back up your settings if you have a midi interface.

Keith.

Still trying to find out how to get this RHH to work right.  HH Offset did not fix it, and neither did a factory reset and setting the trigger to RHH.  I've swapped some cables around and still can only either get open sounds (when the cable is fully plugged in) or only closed sounds (when the cable is barely plugged in).  Perhaps it's a faulty unit afterall.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "keith1200rs" <keith@...> wrote:

>
> This problem has cropped up before, but is usually because the modules default to a normal HH, even if you bought the Special kit.  You could try a factory reset (but you will lose all your custom settings) and then you would have to edit the trigger setting back to RHH.  I hope the HH Offset fixes it.  
> 
> It could be a faulty RHH, although it is fairly rare.  If you have a multimeter I can give you some things to check (resistances as you move the pedal) which would tell you if the pedal is working.
> 
> Keith.
>

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "b33m4n" <beezorz@...> wrote:
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> Still trying to find out how to get this RHH to work right.  HH Offset did not fix it, and neither did a factory reset and setting the trigger to RHH.  I've swapped some cables around and still can only either get open sounds (when the cable is fully plugged in) or only closed sounds (when the cable is barely plugged in).  Perhaps it's a faulty unit after all.


It could be faulty.  Do you have a multimeter (or can you borrow one?).  A resistance check would quickly sort out if it is faulty.

Keith.

I will look into that and get back to you.  Thanks.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "keith1200rs" <keith@...> wrote:

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> 
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> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "b33m4n" <beezorz@> wrote:
> >
> > Still trying to find out how to get this RHH to work right.  HH Offset did not fix it, and neither did a factory reset and setting the trigger to RHH.  I've swapped some cables around and still can only either get open sounds (when the cable is fully plugged in) or only closed sounds (when the cable is barely plugged in).  Perhaps it's a faulty unit after all.
> 
> 
> It could be faulty.  Do you have a multimeter (or can you borrow one?).  A resistance check would quickly sort out if it is faulty.
> 
> Keith.
>