Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Anybody had one of the woven heads wear out yet? How long did it 
take? And does anybody have a source for sub-$20 replacements? While 
I'm at it, wouldn't it be nice if someone manufactured a relatively 
inexpensive round cymbal that worked, and isn't it a pity that 
Pintech's isn't the one? Unless people out there are having more 
luck with them than I ever did. 

Ed

first off i just replaced 3 of mine on my concertcasts,they lasted me 
about 6 months,but i play them alot,and also record alot with them so 
i guess i got some great use out of them. now on the question of 
replacement heads subs. for the pintech ones i found a few at 
musicians friend right now for under $20.00 each here's the links
rolands are $19.99 (i'm assuming that these are double ply heads)
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=020402153400208248108123440322
/search/g=home/detail/base_id/37075
harts dynamics control screen heads are $15.99 (these are just single 
ply ones!!)
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=020402153400208248108123440322
/search/g=home/detail/base_id/56376
the hart double plys are $19.99
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=020402153400208248108123440322
/search/g=home/detail/base_id/56379
then there's the pearl rythym traveler heads for $7.99(these probably 
wouldn't be the best choice though for the money difference it's 
worth it for the harts or the roland ones!!)
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=020402153400208248108123440322
/search/g=home/detail/base_id/45588

about the trigger cymbals the only ones i know of besides pintech are 
the visualites,and then the hart ecymbals , & ecymbal II'S which are 
sweet but pricey.. they should have a better low-mid priced cymbal 
out there though(that would be worth using that is!!)

hope this helps,
               otacon28

--- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> Anybody had one of the woven heads wear out yet? How long did it 
> take? And does anybody have a source for sub-$20 replacements? 
While 

> I'm at it, wouldn't it be nice if someone manufactured a relatively 
> inexpensive round cymbal that worked, and isn't it a pity that 
> Pintech's isn't the one? Unless people out there are having more 
> luck with them than I ever did. 
> 
> Ed

Thanks for the info, Sam ?). Yeah, $19.99 seems to be the going rate 
for the two plies. Six months isn't too bad at all. I believe that 
I'm starting to see serious wear in a month. 

I've been using a Roland CY-6 as a ride; I think it might be better 
suited as a crash, though I find that setting the input sensitivity 
switch on the back of the brain to the high position brings out its 
strong points either way. The Hart EII's are awfully tempting (if 
only for looks; I've never tried one), but I hear tell that they are 
backordered everywhere for at least a month. And the line keeps 
growing as we speak. It might be nice to get a report from inside 
the group. The fact that the EII16 ride is dual-zone won't sit well 
with those of us who have used up the 9/10 input already but find it 
attractive. The call of the double module setup is getting louder 
all the time.

--- In DTXpress@y..., "otacon28us" <reva@s...> wrote:
> first off i just replaced 3 of mine on my concertcasts,they lasted 
me 
> about 6 months,but i play them alot,and also record alot with them 
so 
> i guess i got some great use out of them. now on the question of 
> replacement heads subs. for the pintech ones i found a few at 
> musicians friend right now for under $20.00 each here's the links
> rolands are $19.99 (i'm assuming that these are double ply heads)
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
2
> /search/g=home/detail/base_id/37075
> harts dynamics control screen heads are $15.99 (these are just 
single 
> ply ones!!)
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
2
> /search/g=home/detail/base_id/56376
> the hart double plys are $19.99
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
2
> /search/g=home/detail/base_id/56379
> then there's the pearl rythym traveler heads for $7.99(these 
probably 
> wouldn't be the best choice though for the money difference it's 
> worth it for the harts or the roland ones!!)
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
2
> /search/g=home/detail/base_id/45588
> 
> about the trigger cymbals the only ones i know of besides pintech 
are 
> the visualites,and then the hart ecymbals , & ecymbal II'S which 
are 
> sweet but pricey.. they should have a better low-mid priced cymbal 
> out there though(that would be worth using that is!!)
> 
> hope this helps,
>                otacon28
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> > Anybody had one of the woven heads wear out yet? How long did it 
> > take? And does anybody have a source for sub-$20 replacements? 
> While 
> > I'm at it, wouldn't it be nice if someone manufactured a 
relatively 

> > inexpensive round cymbal that worked, and isn't it a pity that 
> > Pintech's isn't the one? Unless people out there are having more 
> > luck with them than I ever did. 
> > 
> > Ed

no problem dude, also on the hart cymbals (the eII's) walt is a user 
of this group and he has a couple for his kit ,he has a ride,and i 
think he has  the hihats,and he seems to really like them,i've been 
looking at the roland cymbals,and i think that i'm probably going to 
be going for some harts cymbals myself(just going to try to figure 
out how many to start with) i run 2 modules on my kit(walt does too) 
i have 2 dtxpress modules while he runs a dtxpress,and a dtx v 2.0 . 
it's nice to have the extra module ,and it really doesn't take much 
room away from my set-up(but my rack system has grown alot since i 
started) 


later man,
        sam(otacon28)

--- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> Thanks for the info, Sam ?). Yeah, $19.99 seems to be the going 
rate 
> for the two plies. Six months isn't too bad at all. I believe that 
> I'm starting to see serious wear in a month. 
> 
> I've been using a Roland CY-6 as a ride; I think it might be better 
> suited as a crash, though I find that setting the input sensitivity 
> switch on the back of the brain to the high position brings out its 
> strong points either way. The Hart EII's are awfully tempting (if 
> only for looks; I've never tried one), but I hear tell that they 
are 
> backordered everywhere for at least a month. And the line keeps 
> growing as we speak. It might be nice to get a report from inside 
> the group. The fact that the EII16 ride is dual-zone won't sit well 
> with those of us who have used up the 9/10 input already but find 
it 
> attractive. The call of the double module setup is getting louder 
> all the time.
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "otacon28us" <reva@s...> wrote:
> > first off i just replaced 3 of mine on my concertcasts,they 
lasted 
> me 
> > about 6 months,but i play them alot,and also record alot with 
them 
> so 
> > i guess i got some great use out of them. now on the question of 
> > replacement heads subs. for the pintech ones i found a few at 
> > musicians friend right now for under $20.00 each here's the links
> > rolands are $19.99 (i'm assuming that these are double ply heads)
> > 
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
> 2
> > /search/g=home/detail/base_id/37075
> > harts dynamics control screen heads are $15.99 (these are just 
> single 
> > ply ones!!)
> > 
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
> 2
> > /search/g=home/detail/base_id/56376
> > the hart double plys are $19.99
> > 
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
> 2
> > /search/g=home/detail/base_id/56379
> > then there's the pearl rythym traveler heads for $7.99(these 
> probably 
> > wouldn't be the best choice though for the money difference it's 
> > worth it for the harts or the roland ones!!)
> > 
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
> 2
> > /search/g=home/detail/base_id/45588
> > 
> > about the trigger cymbals the only ones i know of besides pintech 
> are 
> > the visualites,and then the hart ecymbals , & ecymbal II'S which 
> are 
> > sweet but pricey.. they should have a better low-mid priced 
cymbal 
> > out there though(that would be worth using that is!!)
> > 
> > hope this helps,
> >                otacon28
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> > > Anybody had one of the woven heads wear out yet? How long did 
it 
> > > take? And does anybody have a source for sub-$20 replacements? 
> > While 
> > > I'm at it, wouldn't it be nice if someone manufactured a 
> relatively 
> > > inexpensive round cymbal that worked, and isn't it a pity that 
> > > Pintech's isn't the one? Unless people out there are having 
more 

> > > luck with them than I ever did. 
> > > 
> > > Ed

dude i was just at ed's site(www.drumbalaya.com) and he's got those 2 
ply hart heads brand new for $12.00 each check it out here's the link 
that will take you right to the page
http://www.drumbalaya.com/detail.asp?mfr=hart+dynamics&item=ks10%2D2%
2Dn&condition=new&price=%2412%2E00

later dude,
          sam(otacon28)


--- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> Thanks for the info, Sam ?). Yeah, $19.99 seems to be the going 
rate 
> for the two plies. Six months isn't too bad at all. I believe that 
> I'm starting to see serious wear in a month. 
> 
> I've been using a Roland CY-6 as a ride; I think it might be better 
> suited as a crash, though I find that setting the input sensitivity 
> switch on the back of the brain to the high position brings out its 
> strong points either way. The Hart EII's are awfully tempting (if 
> only for looks; I've never tried one), but I hear tell that they 
are 
> backordered everywhere for at least a month. And the line keeps 
> growing as we speak. It might be nice to get a report from inside 
> the group. The fact that the EII16 ride is dual-zone won't sit well 
> with those of us who have used up the 9/10 input already but find 
it 
> attractive. The call of the double module setup is getting louder 
> all the time.
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "otacon28us" <reva@s...> wrote:
> > first off i just replaced 3 of mine on my concertcasts,they 
lasted 
> me 
> > about 6 months,but i play them alot,and also record alot with 
them 
> so 
> > i guess i got some great use out of them. now on the question of 
> > replacement heads subs. for the pintech ones i found a few at 
> > musicians friend right now for under $20.00 each here's the links
> > rolands are $19.99 (i'm assuming that these are double ply heads)
> > 
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
> 2
> > /search/g=home/detail/base_id/37075
> > harts dynamics control screen heads are $15.99 (these are just 
> single 
> > ply ones!!)
> > 
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
> 2
> > /search/g=home/detail/base_id/56376
> > the hart double plys are $19.99
> > 
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
> 2
> > /search/g=home/detail/base_id/56379
> > then there's the pearl rythym traveler heads for $7.99(these 
> probably 
> > wouldn't be the best choice though for the money difference it's 
> > worth it for the harts or the roland ones!!)
> > 
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
> 2
> > /search/g=home/detail/base_id/45588
> > 
> > about the trigger cymbals the only ones i know of besides pintech 
> are 
> > the visualites,and then the hart ecymbals , & ecymbal II'S which 
> are 
> > sweet but pricey.. they should have a better low-mid priced 
cymbal 
> > out there though(that would be worth using that is!!)
> > 
> > hope this helps,
> >                otacon28
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> > > Anybody had one of the woven heads wear out yet? How long did 
it 
> > > take? And does anybody have a source for sub-$20 replacements? 
> > While 
> > > I'm at it, wouldn't it be nice if someone manufactured a 
> relatively 
> > > inexpensive round cymbal that worked, and isn't it a pity that 
> > > Pintech's isn't the one? Unless people out there are having 
more 

> > > luck with them than I ever did. 
> > > 
> > > Ed

Thanks again, Sam. I don't know why I didn't think of Drumbalaya for 
the heads. It is usually my first option (my correspondence with Ed 
Morin is always signed "Ed from Massachusetts" so that he doesn't 
get us mixed up). In the shameless-plug-without-ulterior-motive 
category, I recommend Ed and Charlotte at Drumbalaya to all new 
readers of these posts for a full range of products--new and used. 
You can actually talk to them!

--- In DTXpress@y..., "otacon28us" <reva@s...> wrote:
> dude i was just at ed's site(www.drumbalaya.com) and he's got 
those 2 
> ply hart heads brand new for $12.00 each check it out here's the 
link 
> that will take you right to the page
> http://www.drumbalaya.com/detail.asp?mfr=hart+dynamics&item=ks10%
2D2%
> 2Dn&condition=new&price=%2412%2E00
> 
> later dude,
>           sam(otacon28)
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> > Thanks for the info, Sam ?). Yeah, $19.99 seems to be the going 
> rate 
> > for the two plies. Six months isn't too bad at all. I believe 
that 
> > I'm starting to see serious wear in a month. 
> > 
> > I've been using a Roland CY-6 as a ride; I think it might be 
better 
> > suited as a crash, though I find that setting the input 
sensitivity 
> > switch on the back of the brain to the high position brings out 
its 
> > strong points either way. The Hart EII's are awfully tempting 
(if 
> > only for looks; I've never tried one), but I hear tell that they 
> are 
> > backordered everywhere for at least a month. And the line keeps 
> > growing as we speak. It might be nice to get a report from 
inside 
> > the group. The fact that the EII16 ride is dual-zone won't sit 
well 
> > with those of us who have used up the 9/10 input already but 
find 
> it 
> > attractive. The call of the double module setup is getting 
louder 
> > all the time.
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., "otacon28us" <reva@s...> wrote:
> > > first off i just replaced 3 of mine on my concertcasts,they 
> lasted 
> > me 
> > > about 6 months,but i play them alot,and also record alot with 
> them 
> > so 
> > > i guess i got some great use out of them. now on the question 
of 
> > > replacement heads subs. for the pintech ones i found a few at 
> > > musicians friend right now for under $20.00 each here's the 
links
> > > rolands are $19.99 (i'm assuming that these are double ply 
heads)
> > > 
> > 
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
> > 2
> > > /search/g=home/detail/base_id/37075
> > > harts dynamics control screen heads are $15.99 (these are just 
> > single 
> > > ply ones!!)
> > > 
> > 
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
> > 2
> > > /search/g=home/detail/base_id/56376
> > > the hart double plys are $19.99
> > > 
> > 
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
> > 2
> > > /search/g=home/detail/base_id/56379
> > > then there's the pearl rythym traveler heads for $7.99(these 
> > probably 
> > > wouldn't be the best choice though for the money difference 
it's 
> > > worth it for the harts or the roland ones!!)
> > > 
> > 
> 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=02040215340020824810812344032
> > 2
> > > /search/g=home/detail/base_id/45588
> > > 
> > > about the trigger cymbals the only ones i know of besides 
pintech 
> > are 
> > > the visualites,and then the hart ecymbals , & ecymbal II'S 
which 
> > are 
> > > sweet but pricey.. they should have a better low-mid priced 
> cymbal 
> > > out there though(that would be worth using that is!!)
> > > 
> > > hope this helps,
> > >                otacon28
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@y..., "liberatusvirus" <edtyct@a...> wrote:
> > > > Anybody had one of the woven heads wear out yet? How long 
did 
> it 
> > > > take? And does anybody have a source for sub-$20 
replacements? 
> > > While 
> > > > I'm at it, wouldn't it be nice if someone manufactured a 
> > relatively 
> > > > inexpensive round cymbal that worked, and isn't it a pity 
that 

> > > > Pintech's isn't the one? Unless people out there are having 
> more 
> > > > luck with them than I ever did. 
> > > > 
> > > > Ed