Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

After owning an accoustic drum set I couldnt play, because I own a 
small condo, I purchased my DTXpress II on january 28,2003.  On 
January 29, 2003 I got my first bang on the door at 8:30pm. Yep, its 
my drunk old nasty lady neighbor, also President of the home owners 
ASSociation. She told me to knock it off, I said well what time is 
good for you? She replied days. Mind you I work and she is milking 
the state, so I reply "Yeah thats gonna happen." "Atleast your being 
realistic about this!" with just a touch of sarcasm. So she agrees 
to me stopping by 8:00pm. Done I said! I was so excited, at the deal 
I got. Only to find out it was a deal with the devil. Last night 
3/9/03, I got the same door banging. I open it up and guess who? 
Yeah that her the %#@t. She tell me "thats it!" I am done with the 
drums. I said well whats that supposed to mean? She says you got a 
letter telling you to quit playing the drums. I only pick up my mai 
every 2 weeks, so its still in my mailbox at this point. I tell her 
so, then words are exchanged and threats of fines, I tell him ill 
still be playin em , she closing with the ever popular, then "Ill 
just call the flippin cops". I tell her sound good. So as of now I 
am officially moving. I live in Northern California, so its not a 
small price tag to buy a new place. Sorry to babble but I actually 
have a couple of questions for all who read through this.
First, Those of you with similar experiences please let me know what 
I can do?
Second, I definately see a need for "drummer relocation insurance"
Third, Its killing me not to play and its only been 24 hours!

Only one comment---- Headphones!!! :)

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmcshane" 
<dawsonmcshane@h...> wrote:
> After owning an accoustic drum set I couldnt play, because I own a 
> small condo, I purchased my DTXpress II on january 28,2003.  On 
> January 29, 2003 I got my first bang on the door at 8:30pm. Yep, 
its 
> my drunk old nasty lady neighbor, also President of the home 
owners 
> ASSociation. She told me to knock it off, I said well what time is 
> good for you? She replied days. Mind you I work and she is milking 
> the state, so I reply "Yeah thats gonna happen." "Atleast your 
being 
> realistic about this!" with just a touch of sarcasm. So she agrees 
> to me stopping by 8:00pm. Done I said! I was so excited, at the 
deal 
> I got. Only to find out it was a deal with the devil. Last night 
> 3/9/03, I got the same door banging. I open it up and guess who? 
> Yeah that her the %#@t. She tell me "thats it!" I am done with the 
> drums. I said well whats that supposed to mean? She says you got a 
> letter telling you to quit playing the drums. I only pick up my 
mai 
> every 2 weeks, so its still in my mailbox at this point. I tell 
her 
> so, then words are exchanged and threats of fines, I tell him ill 
> still be playin em , she closing with the ever popular, then "Ill 
> just call the flippin cops". I tell her sound good. So as of now I 
> am officially moving. I live in Northern California, so its not a 
> small price tag to buy a new place. Sorry to babble but I actually 
> have a couple of questions for all who read through this.
> First, Those of you with similar experiences please let me know 
what 

> I can do?
> Second, I definately see a need for "drummer relocation insurance"
> Third, Its killing me not to play and its only been 24 hours!

Yes I was wearing headphones. The complaint is purely stick to pad.





--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "wfaraoni" <wfaraoni@y...> wrote:
> Only one comment---- Headphones!!! :)
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmcshane" 
> <dawsonmcshane@h...> wrote:
> > After owning an accoustic drum set I couldnt play, because I own 
a 
> > small condo, I purchased my DTXpress II on january 28,2003.  On 
> > January 29, 2003 I got my first bang on the door at 8:30pm. Yep, 
> its 
> > my drunk old nasty lady neighbor, also President of the home 
> owners 
> > ASSociation. She told me to knock it off, I said well what time 
is 
> > good for you? She replied days. Mind you I work and she is 
milking 
> > the state, so I reply "Yeah thats gonna happen." "Atleast your 
> being 
> > realistic about this!" with just a touch of sarcasm. So she 
agrees 
> > to me stopping by 8:00pm. Done I said! I was so excited, at the 
> deal 
> > I got. Only to find out it was a deal with the devil. Last night 
> > 3/9/03, I got the same door banging. I open it up and guess who? 
> > Yeah that her the %#@t. She tell me "thats it!" I am done with 
the 
> > drums. I said well whats that supposed to mean? She says you got 
a 
> > letter telling you to quit playing the drums. I only pick up my 
> mai 
> > every 2 weeks, so its still in my mailbox at this point. I tell 
> her 
> > so, then words are exchanged and threats of fines, I tell him 
ill 
> > still be playin em , she closing with the ever popular, 
then "Ill 
> > just call the flippin cops". I tell her sound good. So as of now 
I 
> > am officially moving. I live in Northern California, so its not 
a 
> > small price tag to buy a new place. Sorry to babble but I 
actually 
> > have a couple of questions for all who read through this.
> > First, Those of you with similar experiences please let me know 
> what 
> > I can do?
> > Second, I definately see a need for "drummer relocation 
insurance"
> > Third, Its killing me not to play and its only been 24 hours!

Doh !!  I have just ordered my DTXpress II, I'm supposed to receive 
the kit this week, and i'm a bit afraid by the neighboors complaint :-
|  



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmcshane" <dawsonmcshane@h...> 
wrote:
> Yes I was wearing headphones. The complaint is purely stick to pad.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "wfaraoni" <wfaraoni@y...> wrote:
> > Only one comment---- Headphones!!! :)
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmcshane" 
> > <dawsonmcshane@h...> wrote:
> > > After owning an accoustic drum set I couldnt play, because I 
own 
> a 
> > > small condo, I purchased my DTXpress II on january 28,2003.  On 
> > > January 29, 2003 I got my first bang on the door at 8:30pm. 
Yep, 
> > its 
> > > my drunk old nasty lady neighbor, also President of the home 
> > owners 
> > > ASSociation. She told me to knock it off, I said well what time 
> is 
> > > good for you? She replied days. Mind you I work and she is 
> milking 
> > > the state, so I reply "Yeah thats gonna happen." "Atleast your 
> > being 
> > > realistic about this!" with just a touch of sarcasm. So she 
> agrees 
> > > to me stopping by 8:00pm. Done I said! I was so excited, at the 
> > deal 
> > > I got. Only to find out it was a deal with the devil. Last 
night 
> > > 3/9/03, I got the same door banging. I open it up and guess 
who? 
> > > Yeah that her the %#@t. She tell me "thats it!" I am done with 
> the 
> > > drums. I said well whats that supposed to mean? She says you 
got 
> a 
> > > letter telling you to quit playing the drums. I only pick up my 
> > mai 
> > > every 2 weeks, so its still in my mailbox at this point. I tell 
> > her 
> > > so, then words are exchanged and threats of fines, I tell him 
> ill 
> > > still be playin em , she closing with the ever popular, 
> then "Ill 
> > > just call the flippin cops". I tell her sound good. So as of 
now 

> I 
> > > am officially moving. I live in Northern California, so its not 
> a 
> > > small price tag to buy a new place. Sorry to babble but I 
> actually 
> > > have a couple of questions for all who read through this.
> > > First, Those of you with similar experiences please let me know 
> > what 
> > > I can do?
> > > Second, I definately see a need for "drummer relocation 
> insurance"
> > > Third, Its killing me not to play and its only been 24 hours!

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmcshane" 

I have had the same problem... they were knocking on the walls 
because of the sound of sticks hitting the pads.

I suggest you get a fat carpet and put under the set... it will 
reduce the sounds (vibrations) of the kicktower and the whole rack. 
Another thing i did was to buy a pair of really thin sticks(b-stick 
i think they are called). They barely sound anything at all... the 
problem is that if you do ghost notes with them they doesnt always 
trigger, but maybe that can be fixed. 

My problems with neighbours almost dissapeared after that, but in 
the same time some idiot on the top floor had been playing with 
plumbing so there was water flowing all the way down to me(bottom 
floor) resulting in major problems for all the apartments... so i 
guess they all started to hate him instead of me . So try to get the 
focus on some other idiot in the house , they just someone to 
complain at anyway.. doesnt matter who :=) And buy thin sticks and a 
fat carpet or some rubber to put under the set. I have heard that 
there are something ( like sound isolating room inside the room ) 
that you can buy too, then ít will be totally quiet but i guess it 
cost a lot.

good luck

Andreas


<dawsonmcshane@h...> wrote:
> Yes I was wearing headphones. The complaint is purely stick to pad.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "wfaraoni" <wfaraoni@y...> wrote:
> > Only one comment---- Headphones!!! :)
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmcshane" 
> > <dawsonmcshane@h...> wrote:
> > > After owning an accoustic drum set I couldnt play, because I 
own 
> a 
> > > small condo, I purchased my DTXpress II on january 28,2003.  
On 
> > > January 29, 2003 I got my first bang on the door at 8:30pm. 
Yep, 
> > its 
> > > my drunk old nasty lady neighbor, also President of the home 
> > owners 
> > > ASSociation. She told me to knock it off, I said well what 
time 
> is 
> > > good for you? She replied days. Mind you I work and she is 
> milking 
> > > the state, so I reply "Yeah thats gonna happen." "Atleast your 
> > being 
> > > realistic about this!" with just a touch of sarcasm. So she 
> agrees 
> > > to me stopping by 8:00pm. Done I said! I was so excited, at 
the 
> > deal 
> > > I got. Only to find out it was a deal with the devil. Last 
night 
> > > 3/9/03, I got the same door banging. I open it up and guess 
who? 
> > > Yeah that her the %#@t. She tell me "thats it!" I am done with 
> the 
> > > drums. I said well whats that supposed to mean? She says you 
got 
> a 
> > > letter telling you to quit playing the drums. I only pick up 
my 
> > mai 
> > > every 2 weeks, so its still in my mailbox at this point. I 
tell 
> > her 
> > > so, then words are exchanged and threats of fines, I tell him 
> ill 
> > > still be playin em , she closing with the ever popular, 
> then "Ill 
> > > just call the flippin cops". I tell her sound good. So as of 
now 
> I 
> > > am officially moving. I live in Northern California, so its 
not 
> a 
> > > small price tag to buy a new place. Sorry to babble but I 
> actually 
> > > have a couple of questions for all who read through this.
> > > First, Those of you with similar experiences please let me 
know 

> > what 
> > > I can do?
> > > Second, I definately see a need for "drummer relocation 
> insurance"
> > > Third, Its killing me not to play and its only been 24 hours!

You've gotta be kiddin me! They complained about the stick/pad 
sound! Maybe the kick is resonating the floor, but stick /pad
 thats at 8 pm thats Tooooo much!!!

Bill

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "leffelejon" <gadda@k...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmcshane" 
> 
> I have had the same problem... they were knocking on the walls 
> because of the sound of sticks hitting the pads.
> 
> I suggest you get a fat carpet and put under the set... it will 
> reduce the sounds (vibrations) of the kicktower and the whole 
rack. 
> Another thing i did was to buy a pair of really thin sticks(b-
stick 
> i think they are called). They barely sound anything at all... the 
> problem is that if you do ghost notes with them they doesnt always 
> trigger, but maybe that can be fixed. 
> 
> My problems with neighbours almost dissapeared after that, but in 
> the same time some idiot on the top floor had been playing with 
> plumbing so there was water flowing all the way down to me(bottom 
> floor) resulting in major problems for all the apartments... so i 
> guess they all started to hate him instead of me . So try to get 
the 
> focus on some other idiot in the house , they just someone to 
> complain at anyway.. doesnt matter who :=) And buy thin sticks and 
a 
> fat carpet or some rubber to put under the set. I have heard that 
> there are something ( like sound isolating room inside the room ) 
> that you can buy too, then ít will be totally quiet but i guess it 
> cost a lot.
> 
> good luck
> 
> Andreas
> 
> 
> <dawsonmcshane@h...> wrote:
> > Yes I was wearing headphones. The complaint is purely stick to 
pad.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "wfaraoni" <wfaraoni@y...> 
wrote:
> > > Only one comment---- Headphones!!! :)
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmcshane" 
> > > <dawsonmcshane@h...> wrote:
> > > > After owning an accoustic drum set I couldnt play, because I 
> own 
> > a 
> > > > small condo, I purchased my DTXpress II on january 28,2003.  
> On 
> > > > January 29, 2003 I got my first bang on the door at 8:30pm. 
> Yep, 
> > > its 
> > > > my drunk old nasty lady neighbor, also President of the home 
> > > owners 
> > > > ASSociation. She told me to knock it off, I said well what 
> time 
> > is 
> > > > good for you? She replied days. Mind you I work and she is 
> > milking 
> > > > the state, so I reply "Yeah thats gonna happen." "Atleast 
your 
> > > being 
> > > > realistic about this!" with just a touch of sarcasm. So she 
> > agrees 
> > > > to me stopping by 8:00pm. Done I said! I was so excited, at 
> the 
> > > deal 
> > > > I got. Only to find out it was a deal with the devil. Last 
> night 
> > > > 3/9/03, I got the same door banging. I open it up and guess 
> who? 
> > > > Yeah that her the %#@t. She tell me "thats it!" I am done 
with 
> > the 
> > > > drums. I said well whats that supposed to mean? She says you 
> got 
> > a 
> > > > letter telling you to quit playing the drums. I only pick up 
> my 
> > > mai 
> > > > every 2 weeks, so its still in my mailbox at this point. I 
> tell 
> > > her 
> > > > so, then words are exchanged and threats of fines, I tell 
him 

> > ill 
> > > > still be playin em , she closing with the ever popular, 
> > then "Ill 
> > > > just call the flippin cops". I tell her sound good. So as of 
> now 
> > I 
> > > > am officially moving. I live in Northern California, so its 
> not 
> > a 
> > > > small price tag to buy a new place. Sorry to babble but I 
> > actually 
> > > > have a couple of questions for all who read through this.
> > > > First, Those of you with similar experiences please let me 
> know 
> > > what 
> > > > I can do?
> > > > Second, I definately see a need for "drummer relocation 
> > insurance"
> > > > Third, Its killing me not to play and its only been 24 hours!

A few things to try:

1. Isolate the ENTIRE set from it's surroundings. This can be done by
purchasing a sheet of plywood and some large "super" balls (solid rubber
balls kids play with). Cut the balls in half and place them under the
sheet of plywood. Cover the plywood with thick carpet pad and some
carpet. This should effectively isolate the kit from the floor. This is
assuming the floor is wooden (pier/beam) and is transferring the sound to
the surrounding apartments.

2. Put the kit in the room furthest from the tennant who complains.
Possibly in a room that has an outside wall. If at all possible, you
could furthor isolate the room from the stick/pad sound by placing
egg-crate type foam rubber on the walls. They sell large sheets of the
stuff at bedding stores for low $$$. Many times, hospitals use the stuff
for padding beds after surgical processes and they throw a bunch of it
away. Find a nurse and or surgical tech and ask if they have some spare.

3. Play with the lightest sticks you can find. I know this may be the
hardest thing to do because it can affect your playing style, but it
makes the least noise, and in my opinion, can also improve your speed and
accuracy. :)

4. Go to you tennant association meetings and PARTICIPATE! I don't mean
just show up when you are summoned, I mean go and play an active role!
Run for office! Why shouldn't *you* be the homeowner association
president? If you were the president, the roles would be reversed! I also
suggest that you work WITH the b*tchy person and see if you can find a
way to get the sound down to a level they can live with. Explain that for
you its the same as watching TV or dancing. If you were a tap-dancer for
a living you would have to practive your craft. show them the lengths you
are willing to go to to try and reduce the intrusion into their
environment. OF course, if the person is still unreasonable, you may also
try complaining about the level of their television to the cops b4 they
call them on you! ;)

Hope some of this helps..... :)

Vern

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ashmeu24 said:

>
>
> Doh !!  I have just ordered my DTXpress II, I'm supposed to receive
> the kit this week, and i'm a bit afraid by the neighboors complaint :-
> |
>
>
>
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmcshane" <dawsonmcshane@h...>
> wrote:
>> Yes I was wearing headphones. The complaint is purely stick to pad.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "wfaraoni" <wfaraoni@y...> wrote:
>> > Only one comment---- Headphones!!! :)
>> >
>> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmcshane"
>> > <dawsonmcshane@h...> wrote:
>> > > After owning an accoustic drum set I couldnt play, because I
> own
>> a
>> > > small condo, I purchased my DTXpress II on january 28,2003.  On
>> January 29, 2003 I got my first bang on the door at 8:30pm.
> Yep,
>> > its
>> > > my drunk old nasty lady neighbor, also President of the home
>> > owners
>> > > ASSociation. She told me to knock it off, I said well what time
>> is
>> > > good for you? She replied days. Mind you I work and she is
>> milking
>> > > the state, so I reply "Yeah thats gonna happen." "Atleast your
>> > being
>> > > realistic about this!" with just a touch of sarcasm. So she
>> agrees
>> > > to me stopping by 8:00pm. Done I said! I was so excited, at the
>> > deal
>> > > I got. Only to find out it was a deal with the devil. Last
> night
>> > > 3/9/03, I got the same door banging. I open it up and guess
> who?
>> > > Yeah that her the %#@t. She tell me "thats it!" I am done with
>> the
>> > > drums. I said well whats that supposed to mean? She says you
> got
>> a
>> > > letter telling you to quit playing the drums. I only pick up my
>> > mai
>> > > every 2 weeks, so its still in my mailbox at this point. I tell
>> > her
>> > > so, then words are exchanged and threats of fines, I tell him
>> ill
>> > > still be playin em , she closing with the ever popular,
>> then "Ill
>> > > just call the flippin cops". I tell her sound good. So as of
> now
>> I
>> > > am officially moving. I live in Northern California, so its not
>> a
>> > > small price tag to buy a new place. Sorry to babble but I
>> actually
>> > > have a couple of questions for all who read through this.
>> > > First, Those of you with similar experiences please let me know
>> > what
>> > > I can do?
>> > > Second, I definately see a need for "drummer relocation
>> insurance"
>> > > Third, Its killing me not to play and its only been 24 hours!
>
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:42:08 -0600 (CST), you wrote:


>2. Put the kit in the room furthest from the tennant who complains.
>Possibly in a room that has an outside wall. If at all possible, you
>could furthor isolate the room from the stick/pad sound by placing
>egg-crate type foam rubber on the walls. They sell large sheets of the
>stuff at bedding stores for low $$$. Many times, hospitals use the stuff
>for padding beds after surgical processes and they throw a bunch of it
>away. Find a nurse and or surgical tech and ask if they have some spare.

Yuck!   Someone might have died on that foam!

Be sure not to light off the pyros.

Sorry, couldn't resist.




____________________________

Jim

I read a while back on vdrums.com, some guy had the
same experience, and he bought a heavy duty foam to
set under his drums, I think he even built a small
riser and lined it w/styrofoam insulating pieces. 
Here's an email to this group i have sent, with your
name from vdrums.com...hope it makes it to this forum
Jade  
--- dawsonmcshane <dawsonmcshane@...> wrote:
> After owning an accoustic drum set I couldnt play,
> because I own a 
> small condo, I purchased my DTXpress II on january
> 28,2003.  On 
> January 29, 2003 I got my first bang on the door at
> 8:30pm. Yep, its 
> my drunk old nasty lady neighbor, also President of
> the home owners 
> ASSociation. She told me to knock it off, I said
> well what time is 
> good for you? She replied days. Mind you I work and
> she is milking 
> the state, so I reply "Yeah thats gonna happen."
> "Atleast your being 
> realistic about this!" with just a touch of sarcasm.
> So she agrees 
> to me stopping by 8:00pm. Done I said! I was so
> excited, at the deal 
> I got. Only to find out it was a deal with the
> devil. Last night 
> 3/9/03, I got the same door banging. I open it up
> and guess who? 
> Yeah that her the %#@t. She tell me "thats it!" I am
> done with the 
> drums. I said well whats that supposed to mean? She
> says you got a 
> letter telling you to quit playing the drums. I only
> pick up my mai 
> every 2 weeks, so its still in my mailbox at this
> point. I tell her 
> so, then words are exchanged and threats of fines, I
> tell him ill 
> still be playin em , she closing with the ever
> popular, then "Ill 
> just call the flippin cops". I tell her sound good.
> So as of now I 
> am officially moving. I live in Northern California,
> so its not a 
> small price tag to buy a new place. Sorry to babble
> but I actually 
> have a couple of questions for all who read through
> this.
> First, Those of you with similar experiences please
> let me know what 
> I can do?
> Second, I definately see a need for "drummer
> relocation insurance"
> Third, Its killing me not to play and its only been
> 24 hours!
> 
> 


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All very good ideas for sound insulation. However I have been 
informed that no more drumming will be tolerated. And at $100.00 per 
infraction, I cant afford to continue playing even if I could cut 
the noise down 75%. There was a previous post that put it best "You 
just cant please some people." She gets off on making me stop 
playing, its like a power trip. I could have my case heard by the 
board, however it is comprised of her and her 3 other jobless old 
ladies. Resistance is futile! They are the type that wants to ban 
everything including fun itself. Just like Burger Mister Mister 
Burger. Flat out....Its time for me to go, the drums just pushed the 
date forward a little. I have called my realitor and will seek a 
peaceful solution for us both. I am selling my piece of s%#t condo 
with attached walls. I will buy a place with a garage next and I 
wont be attached to my neighbor so I wont have to worry about it. So 
for all of you for whom its not too late, I urge you to follow some 
of these methods for sound insulation. It will really save you with 
your neighbors when it comes to drumming.





--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Jade <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:

> I read a while back on vdrums.com, some guy had the
> same experience, and he bought a heavy duty foam to
> set under his drums, I think he even built a small
> riser and lined it w/styrofoam insulating pieces. 
> Here's an email to this group i have sent, with your
> name from vdrums.com...hope it makes it to this forum
> Jade  
> --- dawsonmcshane <dawsonmcshane@h...> wrote:
> > After owning an accoustic drum set I couldnt play,
> > because I own a 
> > small condo, I purchased my DTXpress II on january
> > 28,2003.  On 
> > January 29, 2003 I got my first bang on the door at
> > 8:30pm. Yep, its 
> > my drunk old nasty lady neighbor, also President of
> > the home owners 
> > ASSociation. She told me to knock it off, I said
> > well what time is 
> > good for you? She replied days. Mind you I work and
> > she is milking 
> > the state, so I reply "Yeah thats gonna happen."
> > "Atleast your being 
> > realistic about this!" with just a touch of sarcasm.
> > So she agrees 
> > to me stopping by 8:00pm. Done I said! I was so
> > excited, at the deal 
> > I got. Only to find out it was a deal with the
> > devil. Last night 
> > 3/9/03, I got the same door banging. I open it up
> > and guess who? 
> > Yeah that her the %#@t. She tell me "thats it!" I am
> > done with the 
> > drums. I said well whats that supposed to mean? She
> > says you got a 
> > letter telling you to quit playing the drums. I only
> > pick up my mai 
> > every 2 weeks, so its still in my mailbox at this
> > point. I tell her 
> > so, then words are exchanged and threats of fines, I
> > tell him ill 
> > still be playin em , she closing with the ever
> > popular, then "Ill 
> > just call the flippin cops". I tell her sound good.
> > So as of now I 
> > am officially moving. I live in Northern California,
> > so its not a 
> > small price tag to buy a new place. Sorry to babble
> > but I actually 
> > have a couple of questions for all who read through
> > this.
> > First, Those of you with similar experiences please
> > let me know what 
> > I can do?
> > Second, I definately see a need for "drummer
> > relocation insurance"
> > Third, Its killing me not to play and its only been
> > 24 hours!
> > 
> > 
> 
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