Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hello everybody,

I was offered a d-drum snarepad. The guy wants to sell it because it 
doesn't work well with his Roland TD-6 (especially the rolls don't 
come out as they should). Does anybody know how it works with a 
dtxpress 1? And does anybody know if the d-drum snare is a dual zone 
(2 piezos) or a stereo pad (1 piezo, 1 condensator)?

Thanks,

Anko

Anko,

I've never used it, but from the product description it appears to 
be a true dual-zone (two piezo) pad. If it were to work with the 
dtxpress I or II, it might have to be treated like a triggered 
acoustic drum, given the location of the trigger toward the rim, 
rather than the center, without any foam padding. One caution: ddrum 
triggers have a history of spotty performance through Yamaha modules 
because of their design. In short, there's no guarantee that the 
snare will perform correctly with Yamaha. You either have to try it 
yourself or consult with a ddrum speciallist.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "ankoanko2003" <adehoop@b...> wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> I was offered a d-drum snarepad. The guy wants to sell it because 
it 
> doesn't work well with his Roland TD-6 (especially the rolls don't 
> come out as they should). Does anybody know how it works with a 
> dtxpress 1? And does anybody know if the d-drum snare is a dual 
zone 

> (2 piezos) or a stereo pad (1 piezo, 1 condensator)?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Anko

Ed,

Thanks for the answer. And do you know if the Roland pd 120 dual zone 
pad works well with the dtxpress (another advertisement I spotted).

Anko



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> Anko,
> 
> I've never used it, but from the product description it appears to 
> be a true dual-zone (two piezo) pad. If it were to work with the 
> dtxpress I or II, it might have to be treated like a triggered 
> acoustic drum, given the location of the trigger toward the rim, 
> rather than the center, without any foam padding. One caution: 
ddrum 
> triggers have a history of spotty performance through Yamaha 
modules 
> because of their design. In short, there's no guarantee that the 
> snare will perform correctly with Yamaha. You either have to try it 
> yourself or consult with a ddrum speciallist.
> 
> Ed
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "ankoanko2003" <adehoop@b...> 
wrote:
> > Hello everybody,
> > 
> > I was offered a d-drum snarepad. The guy wants to sell it because 
> it 
> > doesn't work well with his Roland TD-6 (especially the rolls 
don't 

> > come out as they should). Does anybody know how it works with a 
> > dtxpress 1? And does anybody know if the d-drum snare is a dual 
> zone 
> > (2 piezos) or a stereo pad (1 piezo, 1 condensator)?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Anko

Anko,

Theoretically, the Roland PD120 would trigger through the Yamaha 
like any other dual-zone snare. However, at least one user has 
reported that the rim doesn't generate enough signal for use with 
the DTXPU. My gripe with it is that it is too bloody expensive for 
what it is. I have used it with Roland equipment--and liked it--but 
under no conditions do I view it as worth twice as much as other 
dual-zone snare options. If you can find the Yamaha RHP snare that 
originally came with the DTXtreme, it would be a viable alternative, 
especially at its new discount price. It, like the Roland, is a 12" 
pad. Pintech makes a 10" mesh snare, the ConcertCast 102ST, that 
many of us have used and loved. Notwithstanding its size, at $120 or 
less it's a genuine bargain. Pintech's AX14S mesh snare, which 
measures 14" and usually costs $180 new, is even better. I've had 
both; another member of this board, Scott (hairytrigger)also highly 
endorses the AX14S somewhere in the archives.


Ed
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "ankoanko2003" <adehoop@b...> wrote:
> Ed,
> 
> Thanks for the answer. And do you know if the Roland pd 120 dual 
zone 
> pad works well with the dtxpress (another advertisement I spotted).
> 
> Anko
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Anko,
> > 
> > I've never used it, but from the product description it appears 
to 
> > be a true dual-zone (two piezo) pad. If it were to work with the 
> > dtxpress I or II, it might have to be treated like a triggered 
> > acoustic drum, given the location of the trigger toward the rim, 
> > rather than the center, without any foam padding. One caution: 
> ddrum 
> > triggers have a history of spotty performance through Yamaha 
> modules 
> > because of their design. In short, there's no guarantee that the 
> > snare will perform correctly with Yamaha. You either have to try 
it 
> > yourself or consult with a ddrum speciallist.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "ankoanko2003" <adehoop@b...> 
> wrote:
> > > Hello everybody,
> > > 
> > > I was offered a d-drum snarepad. The guy wants to sell it 
because 
> > it 
> > > doesn't work well with his Roland TD-6 (especially the rolls 
> don't 
> > > come out as they should). Does anybody know how it works with 
a 
> > > dtxpress 1? And does anybody know if the d-drum snare is a 
dual 

> > zone 
> > > (2 piezos) or a stereo pad (1 piezo, 1 condensator)?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Anko

Thanks again Ed, I'll try to find a Yamaha RHP snare!

Anko


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> Anko,
> 
> Theoretically, the Roland PD120 would trigger through the Yamaha 
> like any other dual-zone snare. However, at least one user has 
> reported that the rim doesn't generate enough signal for use with 
> the DTXPU. My gripe with it is that it is too bloody expensive for 
> what it is. I have used it with Roland equipment--and liked it--but 
> under no conditions do I view it as worth twice as much as other 
> dual-zone snare options. If you can find the Yamaha RHP snare that 
> originally came with the DTXtreme, it would be a viable 
alternative, 
> especially at its new discount price. It, like the Roland, is a 12" 
> pad. Pintech makes a 10" mesh snare, the ConcertCast 102ST, that 
> many of us have used and loved. Notwithstanding its size, at $120 
or 
> less it's a genuine bargain. Pintech's AX14S mesh snare, which 
> measures 14" and usually costs $180 new, is even better. I've had 
> both; another member of this board, Scott (hairytrigger)also highly 
> endorses the AX14S somewhere in the archives.
> 
> 
> Ed
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "ankoanko2003" <adehoop@b...> 
wrote:
> > Ed,
> > 
> > Thanks for the answer. And do you know if the Roland pd 120 dual 
> zone 
> > pad works well with the dtxpress (another advertisement I 
spotted).
> > 
> > Anko
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > Anko,
> > > 
> > > I've never used it, but from the product description it appears 
> to 
> > > be a true dual-zone (two piezo) pad. If it were to work with 
the 
> > > dtxpress I or II, it might have to be treated like a triggered 
> > > acoustic drum, given the location of the trigger toward the 
rim, 
> > > rather than the center, without any foam padding. One caution: 
> > ddrum 
> > > triggers have a history of spotty performance through Yamaha 
> > modules 
> > > because of their design. In short, there's no guarantee that 
the 
> > > snare will perform correctly with Yamaha. You either have to 
try 

> it 
> > > yourself or consult with a ddrum speciallist.
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "ankoanko2003" <adehoop@b...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > Hello everybody,
> > > > 
> > > > I was offered a d-drum snarepad. The guy wants to sell it 
> because 
> > > it 
> > > > doesn't work well with his Roland TD-6 (especially the rolls 
> > don't 
> > > > come out as they should). Does anybody know how it works with 
> a 
> > > > dtxpress 1? And does anybody know if the d-drum snare is a 
> dual 
> > > zone 
> > > > (2 piezos) or a stereo pad (1 piezo, 1 condensator)?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > 
> > > > Anko