Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hi,

I am a new owner of a DTXpress kit -- pretty cool! This is a great 
site - thanx to those who helped launch it. A couple of Q's:

1) Specifically, if anyone has it, how can you make the hi-
hat "schwooop" sound -- where you would on an acoustic set hit the hi-
hat, open, and there's a delayed schwoop sound, completed with a 
clean, clear sound of the hi-hat closing. I've tried to adjust the 
footpedal, and it often misses the closing sound -- and not nearly as 
sensitive as it should be. I have upped the "sensitivity" settings, 
but can't find any discernable difference. Ditto for any DTX model 
adjustments. Please - provide settings -- as the manual was obviously 
written by a techie who doesn't play drums. It would have been better 
if they went drum pad by pad and told you how to dial in good sounds, 
etc.

2) Any good amps that you would recommend? I saw a Behringer KX1200 
advertised in Musician's Friend site -- 120W keyboard amp, 3-way bass 
reflex cabinet housing 15" woofer, 5" midrange and tweeter. 4-channel 
operation with line inputs and dedicated volume contrdols. 4-band 
active EQ, too. price was $249 --- is this a reasonable amp to use? 
Other brands/model recommendations? Has anyone tried to use a PA and 
run monitors instead of a stand alone amp? If so, how? I have a 
Mackie 808 PA that should have enough power if that's an option. 

Thanks for anyone out there with input. Keep on rockin' - Draker2003

Hey Draker, welcome to the group and welcome to a great, fun, e-
kit!  A couple of days ago I asked about the very same Behringer 
KX1200 amp and I got some bad feedback!  I was told that brand was 
known for bad dynamics.  There is distorting and such!  Its a good 
deal but the sound isn't worth it!  I can tell you a keyboard amp 
would be best to handle an electronic kits dynamic range, but try 
brands such as Yamaha, Roland (expensive, but good!), and Peavey.  I 
myself am now looking at Yamaha and Roland keyboard amps.  What kind 
of purpose will the amp serve once you have it?  Are you going for 
practice in a little studio or playing live?  Because the amp you 
need may need more or less power depending on its use.  There are 
some amps made especially for e-drums such as that new, red, huge 
amp by Roland but it costs $850.00.  That thing is about as big as 
the kit itself!  You can also check out the Roland KC series amps 
too.  I know some other users on here use those and can provide you 
with more information.  Look at a couple of posts back, the thread 
was titled "another amp question."  There is good information within 
in that thread.  

-UN.H



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "draker2003" <draker2003@y...> 
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am a new owner of a DTXpress kit -- pretty cool! This is a great 
> site - thanx to those who helped launch it. A couple of Q's:
> 
> 1) Specifically, if anyone has it, how can you make the hi-
> hat "schwooop" sound -- where you would on an acoustic set hit the 
hi-
> hat, open, and there's a delayed schwoop sound, completed with a 
> clean, clear sound of the hi-hat closing. I've tried to adjust the 
> footpedal, and it often misses the closing sound -- and not nearly 
as 
> sensitive as it should be. I have upped the "sensitivity" 
settings, 
> but can't find any discernable difference. Ditto for any DTX model 
> adjustments. Please - provide settings -- as the manual was 
obviously 
> written by a techie who doesn't play drums. It would have been 
better 
> if they went drum pad by pad and told you how to dial in good 
sounds, 
> etc.
> 
> 2) Any good amps that you would recommend? I saw a Behringer 
KX1200 
> advertised in Musician's Friend site -- 120W keyboard amp, 3-way 
bass 
> reflex cabinet housing 15" woofer, 5" midrange and tweeter. 4-
channel 
> operation with line inputs and dedicated volume contrdols. 4-band 
> active EQ, too. price was $249 --- is this a reasonable amp to 
use? 
> Other brands/model recommendations? Has anyone tried to use a PA 
and 
> run monitors instead of a stand alone amp? If so, how? I have a 
> Mackie 808 PA that should have enough power if that's an option. 
> 
> Thanks for anyone out there with input. Keep on rockin' - 
Draker2003

--- "draker2003" wrote:
> ...how can you make the hi-
> hat "schwooop" sound...

Well, physically you make it exactly the same way as you would on an 
acoustic kit, of course. If it's basically the pedal not responding 
correctly, have you made sure that you used a stereo cable between 
the hi-hat pedal and the brain? A mono cable won't do.

Stewart

Hello there

For what it's worth, I stick my DTXpress II through the PA that is 
set up in the rehearsal studio we use. It works a treat and sounds 
amazing. The only thing I would say about it though is you definatly 
need to have a monitor otherwise you simply can't hear yourself over 
the rest of the band............A situation I have never encountered 
before being a drummer until I got my electric kit! Come to think of 
it I used to quite like being the loudest person in the room and 
making everyone else adjust thier settings to suit me :)

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vincent Emery" 
<vincent.emery@c...> wrote:
> I found this: www.elecdrum.com/elecdrm2/ drumstart.html.
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: draker2003 
>   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:48 PM
>   Subject: [DTXpress] New owner:Hi-Hat & Cymbal Adjustments & Amp 
recommendations
> 
> 
>   Hi,
> 
>   I am a new owner of a DTXpress kit -- pretty cool! This is a 
great 
>   site - thanx to those who helped launch it. A couple of Q's:
> 
>   1) Specifically, if anyone has it, how can you make the hi-
>   hat "schwooop" sound -- where you would on an acoustic set hit 
the hi-
>   hat, open, and there's a delayed schwoop sound, completed with a 
>   clean, clear sound of the hi-hat closing. I've tried to adjust 
the 
>   footpedal, and it often misses the closing sound -- and not 
nearly as 
>   sensitive as it should be. I have upped the "sensitivity" 
settings, 
>   but can't find any discernable difference. Ditto for any DTX 
model 
>   adjustments. Please - provide settings -- as the manual was 
obviously 
>   written by a techie who doesn't play drums. It would have been 
better 
>   if they went drum pad by pad and told you how to dial in good 
sounds, 
>   etc.
> 
>   2) Any good amps that you would recommend? I saw a Behringer 
KX1200 
>   advertised in Musician's Friend site -- 120W keyboard amp, 3-way 
bass 
>   reflex cabinet housing 15" woofer, 5" midrange and tweeter. 4-
channel 
>   operation with line inputs and dedicated volume contrdols. 4-
band 
>   active EQ, too. price was $249 --- is this a reasonable amp to 
use? 
>   Other brands/model recommendations? Has anyone tried to use a PA 
and 
>   run monitors instead of a stand alone amp? If so, how? I have a 
>   Mackie 808 PA that should have enough power if that's an option. 
> 
>   Thanks for anyone out there with input. Keep on rockin' - 
Draker2003
> 
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I use the Behringer KX1200 as a stand alone amp when I need that and 
a monitor when I go thru a house PA system.  For the size and power, 
this amp is great and $249.  

I use the Behringer DI20 direct box (set to link mode) when I go thru 
the house PA system.  I connect the KIT to the DI20 (1/4") and 
connect the 2nd 1/4" out back to my monitor (my KX1200) and the DI20 
xlr to the xlr PA input. $19.99

PADMAN

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vincent Emery" <vincent.emery@c...> 
wrote:
> I found this: www.elecdrum.com/elecdrm2/ drumstart.html.
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: draker2003 
>   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:48 PM
>   Subject: [DTXpress] New owner:Hi-Hat & Cymbal Adjustments & Amp 
recommendations
> 
> 
>   Hi,
> 
>   I am a new owner of a DTXpress kit -- pretty cool! This is a 
great 
>   site - thanx to those who helped launch it. A couple of Q's:
> 
>   1) Specifically, if anyone has it, how can you make the hi-
>   hat "schwooop" sound -- where you would on an acoustic set hit 
the hi-
>   hat, open, and there's a delayed schwoop sound, completed with a 
>   clean, clear sound of the hi-hat closing. I've tried to adjust 
the 
>   footpedal, and it often misses the closing sound -- and not 
nearly as 
>   sensitive as it should be. I have upped the "sensitivity" 
settings, 
>   but can't find any discernable difference. Ditto for any DTX 
model 
>   adjustments. Please - provide settings -- as the manual was 
obviously 
>   written by a techie who doesn't play drums. It would have been 
better 
>   if they went drum pad by pad and told you how to dial in good 
sounds, 
>   etc.
> 
>   2) Any good amps that you would recommend? I saw a Behringer 
KX1200 
>   advertised in Musician's Friend site -- 120W keyboard amp, 3-way 
bass 
>   reflex cabinet housing 15" woofer, 5" midrange and tweeter. 4-
channel 
>   operation with line inputs and dedicated volume contrdols. 4-band 
>   active EQ, too. price was $249 --- is this a reasonable amp to 
use? 
>   Other brands/model recommendations? Has anyone tried to use a PA 
and 
>   run monitors instead of a stand alone amp? If so, how? I have a 
>   Mackie 808 PA that should have enough power if that's an option. 
> 
>   Thanks for anyone out there with input. Keep on rockin' - 
Draker2003
> 
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