Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

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looking forward to finishing this business so that we can concentrate 
exclusively on our common interests.

One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is 
the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who still 
maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though 
they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all 
(the group's silent majority). This information might help us in our 
future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies 
with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) and 
in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit 
from their membership as possible.  

Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the 
silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly reply 
to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: How 
often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult the archives, 
files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about 
your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large role in how we 
ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.  You 
represent our strength in numbers.

Thanks,
Rob, Vern, and Ed

On Fri August 8 2003 2:36 pm, liberatusvirus wrote:
>  Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
>
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."

You know me, right? ;-)

Stephanie

Everyone,

The last posting on the board is a Special Notice sent to all those 
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If you are a member, but don't receive group email and would like to 
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We'll appreciate it even it's just a blank message with the Special 
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those of you who visit the site but don't post. 

Thanks

Hi guys,

	I *would* in fact consider myself to be part of the "silent
majority."

	To elaborate:

	I bought my Yamaha DTxpress II in mid April of 2003 (so, about 4
months ago) and really love having it.  I still use my Premier Cabria for
live performances, but it's really wonderful to have something small, easy
to transport and *quiet* that I can use for practicing on.

	During the first month or so of my having owned the kit, I
discovered your group and started reading through it regularly.  However,
at some point I eventually started asking questions about things I was
having difficulty with in regards to the DTxpress II and found myself
extremely disappointed with the responses I was getting.  While a fair
number of people *were* responding to my questions, it seemed that most of
them were responding without even reading my question fully, let alone
taking any time to try to think up a worthwhile response or to try doing
what I was having trouble with on *their* kit.  Worse yet -- as the thread
grew longer, people kept chiming back into the discussion while seemingly
unaware of suggestions they'd thrown at me themselves in the past!

	This became increasingly frustrating for me until at some point I
gave up on the group completely and stopped reading.  And haven't gone
back to it since.

	However, I still own and love my DTxpress II, and do think it's
very possible that I'll go back and at least browse through the group at
many points in the future.  So yes, I'd consider myself part of the
"silent majority."

	Hope this is what you wanted to know,

	Ron Harvest

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, liberatusvirus wrote:

> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
>
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
>
> If you might like to add information about your level of interest,
> please read the fine print.
>
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired three
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or
> maintain the various resources associated with the site.  As a
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly without
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam and
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing
> emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we are
> looking forward to finishing this business so that we can concentrate
> exclusively on our common interests.
>
> One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is
> the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who still
> maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though
> they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all
> (the group's silent majority). This information might help us in our
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies
> with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) and
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit
> from their membership as possible.
>
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly reply
> to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: How
> often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult the archives,
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about
> your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large role in how we
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.  You
> represent our strength in numbers.
>
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed
>
>
>
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie Ellison <deafdrummer@a...> 
wrote:
> You know me, right? ;-)

You bet, Steph. You aren't in the silent majority.

Ed

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> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	[DTXpress] The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
> 
> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
> 
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic 
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
> 
> If you might like to add information about your level of interest, 
> please read the fine print.
> 
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired three 
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or 
> maintain the various resources associated with the site.   As a 
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly without 
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam and 
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing 
> emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we are 
> looking forward to finishing this business so that we can concentrate 
> exclusively on our common interests.
> 
> One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is 
> the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who still 
> maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though 
> they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all 
> (the group's silent majority). This information might help us in our 
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies 
> with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) and 
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit 
> from their membership as possible.   
> 
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the 
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly reply 
> to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: How 
> often do you read the group emails?   Do you consult the archives, 
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about 
> your e-drums?   Collectively, you could play a large role in how we 
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.   You 
> represent our strength in numbers.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed
> 
> 
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Great Forum Guys!..
Thanks for all the help these past few days!
Got my first recording done today with the kit and it should be 
available to listen too soon.
Billy

The wealth of information here is a blessing.
Jun

> Ron Harvest wrote: "However, I still own and love my DTxpress II, and do
> think it's
> very possible that I'll go back and at least browse through the group at
> many points in the future.  So yes, I'd consider myself part of the
> "silent majority."
> 
>       Hope this is what you wanted to know,
> 
>       Ron Harvest
> 
> 
> Ron,
> 
> Thank you for responding. I am truly sorry about you experiences here.
> 
> I know how you feel. When I first got my DtxpressII's third module, I was
> looking for a solution. How do you connect a barpad and assign left pad to
> inc. and right pad to dec. and have it connected to the first module only
> and have it send the midi control signal only (no sound) so that by
> hitting the bar pad I could inc/dec the kits in all three modules at one
> time.
> 
> There were no solutions presented. I then contact by email yamaha support
> and never got a response back. I eventually realized that nobody here had
> three dtxpressII modules tied to one kit and Yamaha had never conceived of
> it either, so nobody could really give me answer.
> 
> There are alot of knowledgable people here, but we ultimately only have
> answers based on our own experimentation and from answer we have read here
> or in other groups. As far as I am aware, nobody in this group works for
> Yamaha or was actually involved in the development of the DTX drums, so
> none here are absolute experts on these sets. (Man I sure wish we could
> get someone from Yamaha's R&D/engineers that brought this stuff in
> existants as members here.)
> 
>  When someone asks a question in this group and I don't know the answer, I
> will keep quite or ask a question back.
> If nobody responds, it maybe because we don't know the answer here either
> and it's time to try and get Yamaha support involved.
> 
> If I know the answer or where to go get it, I will generally wait a few
> minutes (Ed's really quick at the keyboard) and then try to answer.
> 
> I make all posts from where I work during the day, so I am absolutely
> guilty of not totally reading and comprehending questions, before I
> respond. I have a feeling many others here do the same. 
> 
> I hope you will continue to come back a visit, because sharing your own
> experiences with the dtx with us is what this group is really about.
> 
> OldGuyDrummer
> 
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Count me in as a regular............

Stephen

Hi guys.

Yeah I read and post once in a while.  I have a set
and I love it..

Alex

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I don't think your Reply is working as well as you wanted, because just
hitting "Reply" replying to the group, not the feedback@...
address. Nonetheless, here I am, mostly a silent member who's only owned
the DTXPress for less than a year, only speaking up when I think I can
truly help with something. Anyway, I read the emails every day, and I
occasionally visit the Files section.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: liberatusvirus [mailto:feedback@...] 
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:36 PM
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DTXpress] The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You


Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:

If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic 
Drum Group, please hit "Reply."

If you might like to add information about your level of interest, 
please read the fine print.

As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired three 
new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or 
maintain the various resources associated with the site.  As a 
result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly without 
any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam and 
advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing 
emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we are 
looking forward to finishing this business so that we can concentrate 
exclusively on our common interests.

One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is 
the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who still 
maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though 
they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all 
(the group's silent majority). This information might help us in our 
future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies 
with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) and 
in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit 
from their membership as possible.  

Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the 
silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly reply 
to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: How 
often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult the archives, 
files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about 
your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large role in how we 
ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.  You 
represent our strength in numbers.

Thanks,
Rob, Vern, and Ed



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I think Grouch Marx said it. " I would never join a group that would have me 
for a member".

I have not tried the archives as of yet.

Count me in....perry

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "James Willard" <james@w...> wrote:
> I don't think your Reply is working as well as you wanted, because 
just
> hitting "Reply" replying to the group, not the feedback@d...
> address. Nonetheless, here I am, mostly a silent member who's only 
owned
> the DTXPress for less than a year, only speaking up when I think I 
can
> truly help with something. Anyway, I read the emails every day, and 
I
> occasionally visit the Files section.

James,

Well, you got that right. We set up an email address just to handle 
the replies, not anticipating that Yahoo would add a CC to the whole 
group. Well, no harm, I guess. We'll just soldier ahead. We were 
always going to get the replies behind the scenes, but now everybody 
gets to seem--not such a bad thing, I reckon.

By the way, many thanks for replying. Nice to know.

Ed

I'm in.

I check the messages every day and put my 2c in from time to time.

Good work on cleaning up the spam.

Wal

Ronald,

The posts that you had mentioned were before my time, so I went back 
and read through the posts.

Did you ever find a solution to the problem? 

I recently started going back through the posts from this group 
starting with post # 1. and MIDI seems to be one of the consist 
problems/issues that is discussed and second is compatability with 
other manufacturers equipment. I personally would not have known the 
answer to your problem and do not have the equipment in order to 
duplicate your problem. All of my recording is audio out to a mixer 
and then to a digital recorder (Korg D1200CD).  I don't do anything 
with MIDI. I tried digging into but it just seem that the DTXpressII 
module was going to be to frustrating to work through at least until 
more people bought it and started using it. I just figured that I 
would be in for a world of frustration.

Considering the DTxpressII was only about eight months old when you 
ask the question and that most of the people probably don't have the 
dtxpressii but another or earlier variant of it, I was amazed anybody 
was able to jump in and tried to help. From the posts when this group 
was formed and with the inception of the dtxpressI, it seem many 
questions went unanswered, just because nobody had figured it out yet.

I know this is doubling of post on this issue, but the point I am 
trying to make to everyone is, there are wide variety of people here, 
some full time musicians, some part time ones and some that just put 
on the headphones and pretend to be one when they are home alone. The 
only real experts on the Yamaha equipment are the folks sitting 
behind a desk or lab table in Japan and they don't ever stop by and 
visit. If they do, we will probably never know. So if you ask a 
question and don't get an answer or don't get an answer that helps 
you out, then thats the time to go to the Yamaha support team. The 
whole purpose of sending out the "special notice" was to see if we 
had enough members to get Yamaha's attention and get someone from 
there tech. support to consider us significant and important enough 
to have a permanent presences here. Then most if not all of the 
questions about the dtx equipment could get answered by the real 
experts.


OldGuyDrummer

i use the message bored to search for answers and ask questions when needed 
- i hope to be able to answer questions as my experiance in useing the kit 
grows, i use the photos page to check ideas and again would like to add to 
it with a picture of my kit when i have somethign to add (at the moment it 
is just a standard kit - however i am making my own snare drum and have 
purchased visu-lites)

from tom (fezzasus)

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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "tom featherstone" 
<could_people_stop_being_funny_please@h...> wrote:
> i use the message bored to search for answers and ask questions 
when needed 
> - i hope to be able to answer questions as my experiance in useing 
the kit 
> grows, i use the photos page to check ideas and again would like to 
add to 
> it with a picture of my kit when i have somethign to add (at the 
moment it 
> is just a standard kit - however i am making my own snare drum and 
have 
> purchased visu-lites)

Thanks, Tom. How do you like the Visu-lites?

Ed

Count me in as a leech on the respective behind of the
group.

I bought my DTXpress about 1 year ago and enjoy just
playing it so much that I don't take the time to
"tweek" it all that much.  I did create my own drum
set and have gotten the midi connection to my PC
working (have uploaded/downloaded sysex files).

I've posted questions a few times and appreciate the
responses.  Please keep the group alive and thriving. 
Afterall, a leech doesn't live long when the blood
stops flowing.

This group is a real asset to the owners of the Yamaha
DTXpress.  I hope Yamaha recognizes that and acts
accordingly.

Just one constructive comment ..... OGD, are you
compensating for something with that huge drumset??? 
Just kidding of course.  :^)  Please don't ban me from
the group.

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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Bob V <bovano1@y...> wrote:
> Count me in as a leech on the respective behind of the
> group.

Now, there's a lovely image. We all come out ahead (or behind) on 
that one. Thanks, Bob.

> Just one constructive comment ..... OGD, are you
> compensating for something with that huge drumset??? 

I can tell you that OGD's taller than Napoleon. Other than that I'm 
sworn to secrecy.

I read the group e-mails daily. I have posted a
question or two in the past, but I don't have a whole
lot to contribute yet. It's a good group, keep up the
good work!







 --- liberatusvirus <feedback@...> wrote:

---------------------------------
Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:

If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress
Electronic 
Drum Group, please hit "Reply."

If you might like to add information about your level
of interest, 
please read the fine print.

As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently
acquired three 
new moderators after a long period without anyone to
police or 
maintain the various resources associated with the
site.  As a 
result, we are now able to keep the engine running
smoothly without 
any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous
distractions as spam and 
advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of
securing 
emails and web postings from these undesirable
influences, but we are 
looking forward to finishing this business so that we
can concentrate 
exclusively on our common interests.

One important piece of information that has been
sorely lacking is 
the number of listed members, among the current 730 or
so, who still 
maintain interest in the group's messages and
archives, even though 
they may not participate anymore, or never have
participated at all 
(the group's silent majority). This information might
help us in our 
future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or
other companies 
with which we might establish a connection to our
mutual benefit) and 
in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as
much benefit 
from their membership as possible.  

Would those of you who would classify yourselves as
part of the 
silent majority (you know who you are, even if we
don't) kindly reply 
to this email with some statement of how you use your
membership: How 
often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult
the archives, 
files, links, and photo sections to get answers to
questions about 
your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large
role in how we 
ultimately structure this group and how we envision
its future.  You 
represent our strength in numbers.

Thanks,
Rob, Vern, and Ed


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Hello,

My name is Jeffrey.  I bought my DTXpress set for my wife since 
November 2002.  She and I both are really interested in drumming.  
So we commit ourself to learning how to drum.  It is a slow learning 
curve due to the fact we both work long hours.

I consider myself as one of the silent one, but I read all the 
messages from DTXpress and DTX groups.  I have posted twice; 
however, I have no experience to offer at the moment.  In fact, I 
learn alot about the set and techniques.  Thanks you guys.

And congratulation to all newly appointed moderators for this group.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" <feedback@d...> 
wrote:
> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
> 
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic 
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
> 
> If you might like to add information about your level of interest, 
> please read the fine print.
> 
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired 
three 
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or 
> maintain the various resources associated with the site.  As a 
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly 
without 
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam 
and 
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing 
> emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we 
are 
> looking forward to finishing this business so that we can 
concentrate 
> exclusively on our common interests.
> 
> One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is 
> the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who 
still 
> maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even 
though 
> they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at 
all 
> (the group's silent majority). This information might help us in 
our 
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies 
> with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) 
and 
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit 
> from their membership as possible.  
> 
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the 
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly 
reply 
> to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: 
How 
> often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult the archives, 
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about 
> your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large role in how we 
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.  
You 

> represent our strength in numbers.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed

Hi, guys. I definitely want to stay a semi-active
member of the DTXpress Yahoo group.
Your help, and the help of others, via the site has
been invaluable in my getting full use of my DTXpress
kit.  (I don't know what I would have done without you
guys!)
By semi-active I mean that I log in perhaps twice or
three times a week and check out the messages and
responses. I'm particularly interested in problems
that relatively new owners, such as myself, come up
against.  And I always chip in when I have something
to ask or contribute.
Where it comes to archives, yes I do consult them when
I need to refer back to something. (But I wish there
was some kind of index to the topics covered - going
back through each and every message is extremely time
consuming!)
I am not aware of "files" or "links" on the site, so
I'd be happy to know more about them.
But yes, I occasionally check out the photo section to
see how other drummers arrange their kits and add-ons.

Finally, I really do appreciate the effort you have
put to finding a solution to the spam/advertising
issue. Long live the group!
Nick Carroll

 --- liberatusvirus <feedback@...> wrote:

---------------------------------
Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:

If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress
Electronic 
Drum Group, please hit "Reply."

If you might like to add information about your level
of interest, 
please read the fine print.

As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently
acquired three 
new moderators after a long period without anyone to
police or 
maintain the various resources associated with the
site.  As a 
result, we are now able to keep the engine running
smoothly without 
any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous
distractions as spam and 
advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of
securing 
emails and web postings from these undesirable
influences, but we are 
looking forward to finishing this business so that we
can concentrate 
exclusively on our common interests.

One important piece of information that has been
sorely lacking is 
the number of listed members, among the current 730 or
so, who still 
maintain interest in the group's messages and
archives, even though 
they may not participate anymore, or never have
participated at all 
(the group's silent majority). This information might
help us in our 
future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or
other companies 
with which we might establish a connection to our
mutual benefit) and 
in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as
much benefit 
from their membership as possible.  

Would those of you who would classify yourselves as
part of the 
silent majority (you know who you are, even if we
don't) kindly reply 
to this email with some statement of how you use your
membership: How 
often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult
the archives, 
files, links, and photo sections to get answers to
questions about 
your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large
role in how we 
ultimately structure this group and how we envision
its future.  You 
represent our strength in numbers.

Thanks,
Rob, Vern, and Ed


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Hello all,
        First of all I would like to thank the new moderators for 
biting the bullet and taking charge.
    As far as the group goes, i think i would fit into the pretend to 
be a rock star at home category. I used to play a bit in my late 
teens, but after a few job moves and a marriage the drumming seemed 
to be on the back burner.
   Now aged thirty eight and having dispensed with the wife. I 
decided to get a kit which I could use at home. And spend my spare 
time having a few beers and playing old rock songs with a few people 
I know. 
  I log onto the group most days and read the replies to all the 
questions, in the hope that some of the knowledge might rub off.
   In the last week I have installed a computer downstairs next to 
the kit, in the hope I can link them together. So dont be surprised 
if I suddenly become an unsilent member.
  

Darren
                                                                      
                                                                      
                                                                      
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" <feedback@d...> 
wrote:
> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
> 
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic 
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
> 
> If you might like to add information about your level of interest, 
> please read the fine print.
> 
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired 
three 
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or 
> maintain the various resources associated with the site.  As a 
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly without 
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam 
and 
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing 
> emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we 
are 
> looking forward to finishing this business so that we can 
concentrate 
> exclusively on our common interests.
> 
> One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is 
> the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who 
still 
> maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though 
> they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all 
> (the group's silent majority). This information might help us in 
our 
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies 
> with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) 
and 
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit 
> from their membership as possible.  
> 
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the 
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly 
reply 
> to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: 
How 
> often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult the archives, 
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about 
> your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large role in how we 
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.  
You 

> represent our strength in numbers.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed

First, thanks to all who are replying to the Special Notice. We're 
not going to be able to thank everyone personally. As I wrote before, 
the replies were supposed to go to a dedicated email address behind 
the scenes, but Yahoo saw fit to broadcast them to the whole 
membership. On reflection, that's not a bad thing, but we probably 
won't be able to comment on all of them. If, however, they contain a 
question or a positive suggestion, we'll try to address it explicitly.

Nick wrote:
> Where it comes to archives, yes I do consult them when
> I need to refer back to something. (But I wish there
> was some kind of index to the topics covered - going
> back through each and every message is extremely time
> consuming!)
> I am not aware of "files" or "links" on the site, so
> I'd be happy to know more about them.

The archives function as the groups FAQ, though they can seem 
endlessly abundant, as well as redundant. OGD came up with the idea 
of creating a basic "Help" file--probably to be located at our sister 
site of DTXpressions--containing tips for new owners (the factory 
reset, the stereo cable for the hi hat controller, etc.). Because we 
don't want to stifle stimulating discussion or discovery, we will 
keep it simple. Lively conversation and exploration of the archives 
are great ways to become acquainted with the DTXpress' features, as 
well as some of the other products, services, and strategies that 
attach to it. 

The "Files" and "Links" sections of this site already contain helpful 
material associated with the DTXpress, if not dedicated to it, from 
various members. The original DTXpressions, which housed techniques 
and tricks distilled from the experiments of the group's founders, 
still carries a link, though Vern's ancillary locale of the same name 
has them as well. We'll add more as we continue to evolve.

Thanks to all for the kind words. When these formal issues are 
resolved, the moderators will be able to slink back into the shadows 
where they belong. Bear with us; our ugly mugs will get out of the 
way soon. 

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "reetaprice" <reetaprice@y...> wrote:
>    In the last week I have installed a computer downstairs next to 
> the kit, in the hope I can link them together. So dont be surprised 
> if I suddenly become an unsilent member.

Thanks, Darren. We look forward to your further adventures. Do you 
have someone to check up on you when you start integrating the 
computer? If not, as I've had occasion to say before, don't forget to 
eat and drink. You'll need the strength. 

Ed

Hi,

I'm one of the silent many - I started playing drums about two years 
ago when the mid-life crisis kicked in...  I bought a DTXpress I in 
order to practice silently and have made great use of the ability to 
play at midnight while the rest of the house are sleeping.  Have 
been in a band for the past year (playing an acoustic kit) and use 
the DTXpress for practice.

As such I've not tended to get into tweaking the kit too much.  I 
use a standard set supplemented with a Pintech AX-14S snare.   I run 
the thing through a Roland KC-500 amp for the times when I want the 
rest of the street to know how I'm getting on ;o)

I tend to read the email digest most days for a little light relief 
from work. I have accessed files / photos etc - my only comment on 
the files would be that it would be nice to see more kits dumped in 
there - useful to see what others have done.

Well done to the very active members for keeping the group 
interesting and friendly. 

Pete.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" <feedback@d...> 
wrote:
> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
> 
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic 
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
> 
> If you might like to add information about your level of interest, 
> please read the fine print.
> 
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired 
three 
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or 
> maintain the various resources associated with the site.  As a 
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly 
without 
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam 
and 
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing 
> emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we 
are 
> looking forward to finishing this business so that we can 
concentrate 
> exclusively on our common interests.
> 
> One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is 
> the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who 
still 
> maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even 
though 
> they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at 
all 
> (the group's silent majority). This information might help us in 
our 
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies 
> with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) 
and 
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit 
> from their membership as possible.  
> 
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the 
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly 
reply 
> to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: 
How 
> often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult the archives, 
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about 
> your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large role in how we 
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.  
You 

> represent our strength in numbers.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed

I appreciate your concern, but rest assured, I have a large stash 
of beer and peanuts.


                                                                   ---
 In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@y...> 
wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "reetaprice" <reetaprice@y...> 
wrote:
> >    In the last week I have installed a computer downstairs next 
to 
> > the kit, in the hope I can link them together. So dont be 
surprised 
> > if I suddenly become an unsilent member.
> 
> Thanks, Darren. We look forward to your further adventures. Do you 
> have someone to check up on you when you start integrating the 
> computer? If not, as I've had occasion to say before, don't forget 
to 

> eat and drink. You'll need the strength. 
> 
> Ed

On Sat August 9 2003 3:16 pm, reetaprice wrote:
>    I appreciate your concern, but rest assured, I have a large stash
> of beer and peanuts.

Just be sure you don't become too inebriated...  You don't want to recommend 
that this guy put one end of the MIDI cable in the wall socket, run to 
another wall socket and plug in a electrical cable with bare ends there, and 
then attach the bare wires to the game port on the PC.

Stephanie waiting with anticipation and baited breath...

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "tom featherstone" 
> <could_people_stop_being_funny_please@h...> wrote:
> > i use the message bored to search for answers and ask 
questions 
> when needed 
> > - i hope to be able to answer questions as my experiance in 
useing 
> the kit 
> > grows, i use the photos page to check ideas and again 
would like to 
> add to 
> > it with a picture of my kit when i have somethign to add (at the 
> moment it 
> > is just a standard kit - however i am making my own snare 
drum and 
> have 
> > purchased visu-lites)
> 
> Thanks, Tom. How do you like the Visu-lites?
> 
> Ed

as my last message was long and detailed but i lost it when i 
was told to sign in i will have to make this short as i am now 
annoyed.

i have only just purchased the visu lites so i have to wait for them 
to arrive - luckally what i have heard the wait is worth it expecially 
to replace those lumps of rubber yahama flog as cymbals (the 
plasic on the base of the cymbals is cracked and on the one i 
am usig as a crash a large chunk has broken off as they have 
been in constant use for over 2 years)

from tom

(and apologies for the spelling of board, i can assure you i am 
happy to be wrong on  that one)

Kudos to you "Three Kings" for wrestling the owner control problem to 
the ground. I've been following the situation with interest.

I read the new posts daily and read back through the archives 1~2 
times per week. I only post once or twice a month (still a noob).

I may be more vocal from now on as I'm starting drum lessons next 
week with a student Swing band at local Comm college. Really excited -
 practicing 2+ hours/ day.

SK

Hey, Guys!

First of all, I'm one of those silent watchers.  I
read e-mails every day delivered to my in-box,
participate when the opportunity arrives, but leave
most tech info to others with more knowledge than
myself ( though i will jump in when requested to or
have info relating to, topics being discussed).  I do
use the files, links, photos, etc., when nessecary,
and search the archives for answers as well.  bes ure
that you can count on me for strength in numbers.

Brett


--- liberatusvirus <feedback@...> wrote:
> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums
> Group:
> 
> If you would still like to be a member of the
> DTXpress Electronic 
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
> 
> If you might like to add information about your
> level of interest, 
> please read the fine print.
> 
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group
> recently acquired three 
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to
> police or 
> maintain the various resources associated with the
> site.  As a 
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running
> smoothly without 
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous
> distractions as spam and 
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method
> of securing 
> emails and web postings from these undesirable
> influences, but we are 
> looking forward to finishing this business so that
> we can concentrate 
> exclusively on our common interests.
> 
> One important piece of information that has been
> sorely lacking is 
> the number of listed members, among the current 730
> or so, who still 
> maintain interest in the group's messages and
> archives, even though 
> they may not participate anymore, or never have
> participated at all 
> (the group's silent majority). This information
> might help us in our 
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or
> other companies 
> with which we might establish a connection to our
> mutual benefit) and 
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as
> much benefit 
> from their membership as possible.  
> 
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as
> part of the 
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we
> don't) kindly reply 
> to this email with some statement of how you use
> your membership: How 
> often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult
> the archives, 
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to
> questions about 
> your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large
> role in how we 
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision
> its future.  You 
> represent our strength in numbers.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed
> 
> 


=====

Vote Quimby!

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" <feedback@d...> 
wrote:
Hi Guys,
I hope you can count me in as a member and now im back in familiar 
surroundings i will contribute regularly to the forum even if my 
experience is limited.

Regards,

lee.

PS i must remember that alot of you guys are in the US so i will post 
later in the day.

> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
> 
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic 
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
> 
> If you might like to add information about your level of interest, 
> please read the fine print.
> 
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired 
three 
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or 
> maintain the various resources associated with the site.  As a 
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly without 
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam 
and 
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing 
> emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we 
are 
> looking forward to finishing this business so that we can 
concentrate 
> exclusively on our common interests.
> 
> One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is 
> the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who 
still 
> maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though 
> they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all 
> (the group's silent majority). This information might help us in 
our 
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies 
> with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) 
and 
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit 
> from their membership as possible.  
> 
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the 
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly 
reply 
> to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: 
How 
> often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult the archives, 
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about 
> your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large role in how we 
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.  
You 

> represent our strength in numbers.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed

Hi,
Greetings from the Shetland Isles. Yep, I'm one of the (sometimes) silent
majority. I read the posts every weekday and sometimes use archives etc. to
help with problems. Thanks to you guys the other side of the atlantic for
taking control of this group, I am sure it will go from strength to
strength.
Duncan (Shetlandrocks)
----- Original Message ----- 

From: "liberatusvirus" <feedback@...>
To: <DTXpress@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:36 PM
Subject: [DTXpress] The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You


> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
>
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
>
> If you might like to add information about your level of interest,
> please read the fine print.
>
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired three
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or
> maintain the various resources associated with the site.  As a
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly without
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam and
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing
> emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we are
> looking forward to finishing this business so that we can concentrate
> exclusively on our common interests.
>
> One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is
> the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who still
> maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though
> they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all
> (the group's silent majority). This information might help us in our
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies
> with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) and
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit
> from their membership as possible.
>
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly reply
> to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: How
> often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult the archives,
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about
> your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large role in how we
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.  You
> represent our strength in numbers.
>
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed
>
>
>
> Community email addresses:
>   Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>   Unsubscribe:  DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>   List owner:   DTXpress-owner@yahoogroups.com
>
> Shortcut URL to this page:
>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress
>
> Alternate DTXpress site:
>   http://www.dtxpressions.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:36:09 -0000, liberatusvirus wrote:
>\ufffdHello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
>\ufffd
>\ufffdIf you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic
>\ufffdDrum Group, please hit "Reply."

Count me in...

Matt

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" <feedback@d...> 
wrote:
> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
> 
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic 
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
> 
> If you might like to add information about your level of interest, 
> please read the fine print.
> 
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired 
three 
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or 
> maintain the various resources associated with the site.  As a 
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly 
without 
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam 
and 
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing 
> emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we 
are 
> looking forward to finishing this business so that we can 
concentrate 
> exclusively on our common interests.
> 
> One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is 
> the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who 
still 
> maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even 
though 
> they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at 
all 
> (the group's silent majority). This information might help us in 
our 
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies 
> with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) 
and 
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit 
> from their membership as possible.  
> 
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the 
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly 
reply 
> to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: 
How 
> often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult the archives, 
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about 
> your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large role in how we 
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.  
You 
> represent our strength in numbers.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed


Count me in Guys

Russell Butterfield

I read the posts daily and use the forum mainly to overcome obstacles encountered during my e-drum adventures. Definately wish to remain a member.

Max

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-----Original Message-----
From: rdamon@... [mailto:rdamon@...]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:50 PM
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [DTXpress] The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You




> -----Original Message-----
> From:	liberatusvirus [SMTP:feedback@...]
> Sent:	Friday, August 08, 2003 3:36 PM
> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	[DTXpress] The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You
>
> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
>
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
>
> If you might like to add information about your level of interest,
> please read the fine print.
>
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired three
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or
> maintain the various resources associated with the site.   As a
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly without
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam and
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing
> emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we are
> looking forward to finishing this business so that we can concentrate
> exclusively on our common interests.
>
> One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is
> the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who still
> maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though
> they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all
> (the group's silent majority). This information might help us in our
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies
> with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) and
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit
> from their membership as possible.
>
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly reply
> to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: How
> often do you read the group emails?   Do you consult the archives,
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about
> your e-drums?   Collectively, you could play a large role in how we
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.   You
> represent our strength in numbers.
>
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed
>
>
>
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Hi there
I have to admit to being a lurker :-) but at the moment I am 
relatively inexperienced - 8 months drumming and 3 months with the 
DTXpress II - so not a lot to say, but an awful lot to learn!  This 
group has been great in helping me get going.  Did my first gig at 
the weekend - small private party so no pressure.  Great fun - 
looking forward to the next one.
Keep the group going - it's much appreciated.
Paul

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wrote:
> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
> 
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic 
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
> 
> If you might like to add information about your level of interest, 
> please read the fine print.
> 
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired 
three 
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or 
> maintain the various resources associated with the site.  As a 
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly 
without 
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam 
and 
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing 
> emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we 
are 
> looking forward to finishing this business so that we can 
concentrate 
> exclusively on our common interests.
> 
> One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is 
> the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who 
still 
> maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even 
though 
> they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at 
all 
> (the group's silent majority). This information might help us in 
our 
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies 
> with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) 
and 
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit 
> from their membership as possible.  
> 
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the 
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly 
reply 
> to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: 
How 
> often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult the archives, 
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about 
> your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large role in how we 
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.  
You 

> represent our strength in numbers.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed

just replying to stay in the group.  Thanks.

liberatusvirus <feedback@...> wrote:Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:

If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic 
Drum Group, please hit "Reply."

If you might like to add information about your level of interest, 
please read the fine print.

As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired three 
new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or 
maintain the various resources associated with the site.  As a 
result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly without 
any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam and 
advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing 
emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we are 
looking forward to finishing this business so that we can concentrate 
exclusively on our common interests.

One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is 
the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who still 
maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though 
they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all 
(the group's silent majority). This information might help us in our 
future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies 
with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) and 
in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit 
from their membership as possible.  

Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the 
silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly reply 
to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: How 
often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult the archives, 
files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about 
your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large role in how we 
ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.  You 
represent our strength in numbers.

Thanks,
Rob, Vern, and Ed


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I would like to continue being a member of the group. I play acoustic 
drums but have come here to learn about electronic drums and will 
probably just be lurking for a while .

ED W

On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 03:36  PM, liberatusvirus wrote:

> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
>
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
>
> If you might like to add information about your level of interest,
> please read the fine print.
>
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired three
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or
> maintain the various resources associated with the site.  As a
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly without
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam and
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing
> emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we are
> looking forward to finishing this business so that we can concentrate
> exclusively on our common interests.
>
> One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is
> the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who still
> maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though
> they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all
> (the group's silent majority). This information might help us in our
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies
> with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) and
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit
> from their membership as possible. 
>
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly reply
> to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: How
> often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult the archives,
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about
> your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large role in how we
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.  You
> represent our strength in numbers.
>
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed
>
>
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I guess I better speak out, or be lost in the ether.
I have answered the occasionally plea for help, but there's a core of
individuals now who not only know in DTX's inside and out, there willing to
dismantle various bits to see what makes them tick.

Me, I've just a DTXpress Mk 1. Got it about two years ago locally for \ufffd500
second hand, guy even supplied a drum throne (don't call them stools -
people think your talking about something else), a decent box to carry it
all in, a pair of sticks, and a few extra leads, and best of all, a Premier
kick pedal (\ufffd130 worth).
A cracking deal, even today.
I'm a huge fan of Roland gear, but at the price this was, I had to get it -
I'm was not disappointed, plus as I already owned a Yamaha RM50 drum module
(cracking bit of kit, be not very user friendly).

I've added on to it a bit:
Extra stereo cymbal pad PCY65S - for the mute function.
Extra cymbal arm with Gibraltar clamp
Stereo snare pad TP65S - for rimshots, but the downside is the main snare
pad area is smaller.
Addition Yamaha clamp - so not to waste old snare pad - I've gained an extra
tom.
Yamaha Bell cymbal thingy - guy I got the extra cymbal pad from had it
spare, and sold it to me for a very reasonable price.

Now our DTXpress experts will have realised that's too many pads for a
DTXpress to handle, luck would have it I just happen to have a Roland
Octapad II lying around, so I have a standard (mono) cymbal pad going to
that, and then it's MIDI'd up to the DTXpress.

Just managed (about 2 weeks ago) to get the new type of kick drum trigger
(KP65) for my kit. I hated the old (original) one, worked okay (I know some
have issues with reliability - or rather the lack of it), I just found is so
it made too much noise. The new one is quieter, and 'feels' great.

Future projects:
New rack - as mine is the Mk1 there's a lack of bracing that you get with
the revised DTXpress kits. So it tends to wobble a bit while in use.
I scan ebay almost daily, but funds are tight. A know Gibraltar hardware is
compatible, any other brands fit Yamaha clamps?

Might be tempted to get a mesh headed snare at some time - suggestions
welcome - but I live in the UK which limits my options.
If I see one on ebay - perhaps a DTXpress Mk 2 module - are there any
'sonic' differences or are they basically the same?
Might also be tempted to get a cymbal shaped cymbal pad - the Yamaha pads
are useable, but 'it don't mean a thing if they ain't got that swing..'


Shall not bore you all anymore, I'll return to lurk mode until otherwise
required to surface..

"the Sonic Energy Authority - a sound investment"

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "S - E - A" 
<sonicenergyauthority@c...> wrote:
> Future projects:
> New rack - as mine is the Mk1 there's a lack of bracing that you 
get with
> the revised DTXpress kits. So it tends to wobble a bit while in use.
> I scan ebay almost daily, but funds are tight. A know Gibraltar 
hardware is
> compatible, any other brands fit Yamaha clamps?
> 
> Might be tempted to get a mesh headed snare at some time - 
suggestions
> welcome - but I live in the UK which limits my options.
> If I see one on ebay - perhaps a DTXpress Mk 2 module - are there 
any
> 'sonic' differences or are they basically the same?
> Might also be tempted to get a cymbal shaped cymbal pad - the 
Yamaha pads
> are useable, but 'it don't mean a thing if they ain't got that 
swing..'

I remember some pretty valuable information coming from the dark and 
mysterious S-E-A in the past. The main differences between the 
XpressI and II are the two-rim snare, cymbals/pads of a slightly 
different texture, and a more user-friendly rack. I think that the 
trigger menu may have a couple of different setup options for pad 
types, or at least different wording. But my impression is that the 
new wrinkles aren't the kind to make owners of a I run out to buy a 
II. Maybe someone would dispute me on that. 

Pintech ConcertCasts are good, reasonably priced mesh-heads, and they 
do business in the UK. Their website has a link to their European 
staff. Besides possibly having an attenuated signal through the 
Yamaha module (especially the rim), the Roland meshes are simply too 
expensive for what they are, and the Harts don't necessarily mate all 
that well, if you can even find them. A UK company that has almost no 
presence in the US but has begun to manufacture woven head pads is 
Koby. Apparently, their products are compatible with Yamaha 
electronics. I have their website address if you're interested. 
Pintech also makes 14-inch swinging gum-rubber cymbals that have gone 
over well here. Stephen likes them; I like them; and others do too. 
Run a search in the archives under Zenbal.

So far as hardware goes, Gibralter seems to be the company of choice 
for bracing and stronger mounts. Pintech makes some better-quality 
(read metal) clamps, stands, and braces as well. The Yamaha hardware 
is generally standard in size. Metal clamps would have been far 
better than the plastic ones, but it would have raised the price of 
the kit considerably. The flimsiness of the aluminum tubing after a 
point, no matter what you do to it, tends to be the ultimate limiting 
factor in rack stability. I moved to a Pearl DR-80 rack, the longest-
lived and least expensive in the Pearl line. It's solid as a rock, 
but the drawback is that it's square rather than round, requiring 
Pearl clamps exclusively, and not adjustable for height, although 
mounts are available to compensate. Some of the group's members have 
constructed their own racks (Scott?).

Ed

Ed, If you were asking about my homemade rack......
If you have a LOT of time, and LITTLE money, you could do it, but it 
is not quite as nice as a 'real' one. And not quite as sturdy as even 
the DTXpress rack. But, like all the designs on my site, a little $$ 
and some spare time wasted away.... But the pad designs are quite 
serviceable and not bad looking.
Scott
http://home.internetcds.com/~artifax/drumstuff/

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "S - E - A" 
> <sonicenergyauthority@c...> wrote:
> > Future projects:
> > New rack - as mine is the Mk1 there's a lack of bracing that you 
> get with
> > the revised DTXpress kits. So it tends to wobble a bit while in 
use.
> > I scan ebay almost daily, but funds are tight. A know Gibraltar 
> hardware is
> > compatible, any other brands fit Yamaha clamps?
> > 
> > Might be tempted to get a mesh headed snare at some time - 
> suggestions
> > welcome - but I live in the UK which limits my options.
> > If I see one on ebay - perhaps a DTXpress Mk 2 module - are there 
> any
> > 'sonic' differences or are they basically the same?
> > Might also be tempted to get a cymbal shaped cymbal pad - the 
> Yamaha pads
> > are useable, but 'it don't mean a thing if they ain't got that 
> swing..'
> 
> I remember some pretty valuable information coming from the dark and 
> mysterious S-E-A in the past. The main differences between the 
> XpressI and II are the two-rim snare, cymbals/pads of a slightly 
> different texture, and a more user-friendly rack. I think that the 
> trigger menu may have a couple of different setup options for pad 
> types, or at least different wording. But my impression is that the 
> new wrinkles aren't the kind to make owners of a I run out to buy a 
> II. Maybe someone would dispute me on that. 
> 
> Pintech ConcertCasts are good, reasonably priced mesh-heads, and 
they 
> do business in the UK. Their website has a link to their European 
> staff. Besides possibly having an attenuated signal through the 
> Yamaha module (especially the rim), the Roland meshes are simply too 
> expensive for what they are, and the Harts don't necessarily mate 
all 
> that well, if you can even find them. A UK company that has almost 
no 
> presence in the US but has begun to manufacture woven head pads is 
> Koby. Apparently, their products are compatible with Yamaha 
> electronics. I have their website address if you're interested. 
> Pintech also makes 14-inch swinging gum-rubber cymbals that have 
gone 
> over well here. Stephen likes them; I like them; and others do too. 
> Run a search in the archives under Zenbal.
> 
> So far as hardware goes, Gibralter seems to be the company of choice 
> for bracing and stronger mounts. Pintech makes some better-quality 
> (read metal) clamps, stands, and braces as well. The Yamaha hardware 
> is generally standard in size. Metal clamps would have been far 
> better than the plastic ones, but it would have raised the price of 
> the kit considerably. The flimsiness of the aluminum tubing after a 
> point, no matter what you do to it, tends to be the ultimate 
limiting 
> factor in rack stability. I moved to a Pearl DR-80 rack, the 
longest-

> lived and least expensive in the Pearl line. It's solid as a rock, 
> but the drawback is that it's square rather than round, requiring 
> Pearl clamps exclusively, and not adjustable for height, although 
> mounts are available to compensate. Some of the group's members have 
> constructed their own racks (Scott?).
> 
> Ed

Please keep me on the list.  thanks

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" <feedback@d...> 
wrote:
> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
> 
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic 
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
> 
> If you might like to add information about your level of interest, 
> please read the fine print.
> 
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired 
three 
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or 
> maintain the various resources associated with the site.  As a 
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly without 
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam 
and 
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing 
> emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we 
are 
> looking forward to finishing this business so that we can 
concentrate 
> exclusively on our common interests.
> 
> One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is 
> the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who 
still 
> maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though 
> they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all 
> (the group's silent majority). This information might help us in 
our 
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies 
> with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) 
and 
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit 
> from their membership as possible.  
> 
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the 
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly 
reply 
> to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: 
How 
> often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult the archives, 
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about 
> your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large role in how we 
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.  
You 

> represent our strength in numbers.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed

Hello to all...
                   Thanks for the welcome.. Music is my "hobby".. I have a small setup at home and enjoy writing and playing music. I recently purchased a Dtxpress in good shape on Ebay. I am in the process of  " tinkering" with it and found your site and have picked up a few things from the responses. I look forward to passing on any information, etc.. to the group as I go along. 
 
                                                                     SC
 
 
                  

liberatusvirus <feedback@...> wrote:
Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:

If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic 
Drum Group, please hit "Reply."

If you might like to add information about your level of interest, 
please read the fine print.

As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired three 
new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or 
maintain the various resources associated with the site.  As a 
result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly without 
any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam and 
advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing 
emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we are 
looking forward to finishing this business so that we can concentrate 
exclusively on our common interests.

One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is 
the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who still 
maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though 
they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all 
(the group's silent majority). This information might help us in our 
future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies 
with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) and 
in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit 
from their membership as possible.  

Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the 
silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly reply 
to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: How 
often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult the archives, 
files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about 
your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large role in how we 
ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.  You 
represent our strength in numbers.

Thanks,
Rob, Vern, and Ed


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hey group,  

yes i am a "lurker", but that will change.  i did post when i first 
received my set earlier this year.  i am a new drummer so my input is 
limited.  as time goes on i am sure that i will be able to 
participate more.  i do however take in all the things that are being 
discussed. hopefully time will allow me to really start doing some 
creative things instead of just my daily pracitce sheets. 

makeda




--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" <feedback@d...> 
wrote:
> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums Group:
> 
> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic 
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
> 
> If you might like to add information about your level of interest, 
> please read the fine print.
> 
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group recently acquired 
three 
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to police or 
> maintain the various resources associated with the site.  As a 
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running smoothly without 
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous distractions as spam 
and 
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method of securing 
> emails and web postings from these undesirable influences, but we 
are 
> looking forward to finishing this business so that we can 
concentrate 
> exclusively on our common interests.
> 
> One important piece of information that has been sorely lacking is 
> the number of listed members, among the current 730 or so, who 
still 
> maintain interest in the group's messages and archives, even though 
> they may not participate anymore, or never have participated at all 
> (the group's silent majority). This information might help us in 
our 
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or other companies 
> with which we might establish a connection to our mutual benefit) 
and 
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as much benefit 
> from their membership as possible.  
> 
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as part of the 
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we don't) kindly 
reply 
> to this email with some statement of how you use your membership: 
How 
> often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult the archives, 
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to questions about 
> your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large role in how we 
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision its future.  
You 

> represent our strength in numbers.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed

hi all,
yes -- please keep me on the list as a member.
i read the email 'digests' every day, and i occasionally even write 
in with questions, etc. --
(vern, i went out of town for a bit, but now that i am back i will 
have some more MIDI questions
for you at some point in the near future, so stay tuned...)
i also use the website to search for information & tips about using 
the kit, & it has been very
helpful -- so please keep me informed of any changes.
thanks to rob, vern, & ed for taking on the responsibility of keeping 
this thing running -- its a
great resource, & it seems to be in good hands!
scott

--- sonicenergyauthority wrote:
> Future projects:
> New rack - as mine is the Mk1 there's a lack of bracing
> that you get with the revised DTXpress kits. So it tends
> to wobble a bit while in use.

Check out Dixon racks. If you go to your drum dealer, they will 
probably have a Dixon components catalogue. Dixon sells a cross-
brace like the Yamaha (except in black) seperately. It's not cheap 
gear (some parts like the multiclamp are more expensive than 
Gibraltar) but buying a couple of cross-braces should work out 
cheaper than replacing the rack.

If anyone has a web link to the Dixon folk, I for one would be a 
grateful recipient. I have searched many times and can only find 
them in German...

(OK, so I lied about going to bed)

Stewart

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:
> (OK, so I lied about going to bed)

Good. Now we don't have to whisper anymore. WELCOME BACK, STEWART.

Also check out the racks from american music supply. I got a chrome 
curved rack with the two side extensions, disappearing cymbal booms, 
a module mount and four five or six multi clamps for $99.00!. And 
it's sturdy as Gibraltar. I got mine of an ebay buy it now, but I 
think it normally sells for $179.

Still a lot cheaper than the $425 Gibraltar charges for the same 
thing.

Stephen

p.s. Stewart, welcome back. Get some rest. No. Play drums, then get 
some rest.

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, liberatusvirus wrote:

> If you would still like to be a member of the DTXpress Electronic 
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."

Hi,

Count me in as another lurker. I get the individual list messages by
e-mail and go through them with the rest of my e-mail as they come in. I
also consult the archives, files, etc. when there is a need. Like many
of my silent brethren who have posted before me, my interest in information 
on e-drums far outstrips my expertise, and my finances preclude much 
hardware experimentation. So I don't have much to contribute in an active
sense. However, I do enjoy reading what the group has to offer.

Darren Lo
lo@...

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Darren Lo <lo@m...> wrote:
> Count me in as another lurker. I get the individual list messages by
> e-mail and go through them with the rest of my e-mail as they come 
in. I
> also consult the archives, files, etc. when there is a need. Like 
many
> of my silent brethren who have posted before me, my interest in 
information 
> on e-drums far outstrips my expertise, and my finances preclude 
much 
> hardware experimentation. So I don't have much to contribute in an 
active
> sense. However, I do enjoy reading what the group has to offer.

Hey Darren,

Thanks for hangin' in.

Ed

--- Stephen wrote:
> p.s. Stewart, welcome back

Thanks.

> Get some rest. No.
> Play drums, then get some rest.

Why do you think I was still up? B-)

Stewart

Yes.  thank you. keep me in the loop
--- liberatusvirus <feedback@...> wrote:
> Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums
> Group:
> 
> If you would still like to be a member of the
> DTXpress Electronic 
> Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
> 
> If you might like to add information about your
> level of interest, 
> please read the fine print.
> 
> As you may or may not have noticed, the group
> recently acquired three 
> new moderators after a long period without anyone to
> police or 
> maintain the various resources associated with the
> site.  As a 
> result, we are now able to keep the engine running
> smoothly without 
> any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous
> distractions as spam and 
> advertising. We have yet to decide the final method
> of securing 
> emails and web postings from these undesirable
> influences, but we are 
> looking forward to finishing this business so that
> we can concentrate 
> exclusively on our common interests.
> 
> One important piece of information that has been
> sorely lacking is 
> the number of listed members, among the current 730
> or so, who still 
> maintain interest in the group's messages and
> archives, even though 
> they may not participate anymore, or never have
> participated at all 
> (the group's silent majority). This information
> might help us in our 
> future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or
> other companies 
> with which we might establish a connection to our
> mutual benefit) and 
> in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as
> much benefit 
> from their membership as possible.  
> 
> Would those of you who would classify yourselves as
> part of the 
> silent majority (you know who you are, even if we
> don't) kindly reply 
> to this email with some statement of how you use
> your membership: How 
> often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult
> the archives, 
> files, links, and photo sections to get answers to
> questions about 
> your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large
> role in how we 
> ultimately structure this group and how we envision
> its future.  You 
> represent our strength in numbers.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob, Vern, and Ed
> 
> 


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hey guys,
        although i have been away from the group more lately than in 
the past because i have really dove into alot of gigging,and 
recording sessions within the past few months.. i just want to give 
a shout out to all who really stepped up and got involved in taking 
some much needed changes for the better to this group that has 
offered me as well as obviously so many others a direct porthole to 
alot of the fellow e-drummers,and e-drummerets in the yahoo world. 
where else can you get some great ideas,hands on user reviews from 
actual users themselves, the (saved myself migranes bookooo times) 
problem solver posts that people share with others freely ,trial and 
errors,and i could just go on,and on(the past posts are just amazing 
with all kind of topics are posted,and covered by users on here ). 
but it's just really a great thing to see people have enough 
compassion for this group as well as for the other members that 
share this group and all that it has to offer , to really stick to 
their guns and fight for the right of all of the members of this 
group as well as their own to save something that will continue to 
benefit anyone who takes the journey into the dtxpress world is just 
overwhelmingly noble to me .. this is truly a great thing to see,and 
just shows me yet another of the many reasons i have missed the time 
that i have spent here in the earlier months of this year as well 
the last 2 years ..i have learned so much off of this group,and some 
of the things have really opened my eyes to how fortunate each and 
every member is to have such a great place that we can all call 
home,and be able to hook up with some great people, 

just wanted to show my appreciation and thank this group for having 
some very exceptional members who care for others rights as well as 
their own.... we need more people like this in the world 

rock on'

sam(otacon28)

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Rich Stubits <rwstubits@y...> wrote:

> Yes.  thank you. keep me in the loop
> --- liberatusvirus <feedback@d...> wrote:
> > Hello from the Yahoo DTXpress Electronic Drums
> > Group:
> > 
> > If you would still like to be a member of the
> > DTXpress Electronic 
> > Drum Group, please hit "Reply."
> > 
> > If you might like to add information about your
> > level of interest, 
> > please read the fine print.
> > 
> > As you may or may not have noticed, the group
> > recently acquired three 
> > new moderators after a long period without anyone to
> > police or 
> > maintain the various resources associated with the
> > site.  As a 
> > result, we are now able to keep the engine running
> > smoothly without 
> > any, or much, intrusion from such extraneous
> > distractions as spam and 
> > advertising. We have yet to decide the final method
> > of securing 
> > emails and web postings from these undesirable
> > influences, but we are 
> > looking forward to finishing this business so that
> > we can concentrate 
> > exclusively on our common interests.
> > 
> > One important piece of information that has been
> > sorely lacking is 
> > the number of listed members, among the current 730
> > or so, who still 
> > maintain interest in the group's messages and
> > archives, even though 
> > they may not participate anymore, or never have
> > participated at all 
> > (the group's silent majority). This information
> > might help us in our 
> > future endeavors (such as relations with Yamaha or
> > other companies 
> > with which we might establish a connection to our
> > mutual benefit) and 
> > in our attempt to ensure that individuals can get as
> > much benefit 
> > from their membership as possible.  
> > 
> > Would those of you who would classify yourselves as
> > part of the 
> > silent majority (you know who you are, even if we
> > don't) kindly reply 
> > to this email with some statement of how you use
> > your membership: How 
> > often do you read the group emails?  Do you consult
> > the archives, 
> > files, links, and photo sections to get answers to
> > questions about 
> > your e-drums?  Collectively, you could play a large
> > role in how we 
> > ultimately structure this group and how we envision
> > its future.  You 
> > represent our strength in numbers.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Rob, Vern, and Ed
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Hopkinson, Spencer # UK - MAILBOX" 
<Spencer.Hopkinson@G...> wrote:
> I'd like to stay in the group...I don't post a lot but I read all 
the messages for tips and tricks.

Thanks, Spence. By the way, since you're in the UK, what do you think 
about our trying to arrange a review of Koby products? That way, we 
could get information that might help those who don't have easy 
access to US suppliers. If the company also agreed to supply 
pertinent information about itself and its philosophy, we could all 
benefit.

Ed

--- liberatusvirus wrote:
> ...since you're in the UK, what do you think 
> about our trying to arrange a review of Koby products?

I think that would be a splendid thing. But then, I would...

B-)

Stewart

A review of Koby products would be great.

They reviewed their mesh head pads in Rhythm (drumming magazine in the UK for our worldwide friends) earlier this year and got a very good review.

Of all the mesh head options for the DTXpress it looks the cheapest and best alternative. I will bite the bullet very soon and buy one....promise!! They have some nifty NANO-pads too which look handy in an acoustic setup.

Unless we could write a lovely letter to Colin Schofield (KOBY MD) to send someone an "evaluation" setup? I have emailed them a lot with questions about compatibility and technical specs of their pads and they're always happy to oblige and prompt too.

In fact I could write them a nice little email now....

Regards,

Spencer Hopkinson
Senior Analyst / Programmer
Global Payments UK
Email: Spencer.Hopkinson@Globalpay.com

-----Original Message-----
From: liberatusvirus [mailto:liberatusvirus@...]
Sent: 03 September 2003 15:12
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DTXpress] Re: The DTXpress Electronic Drums Group Needs You


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Hopkinson, Spencer # UK - MAILBOX" 
<Spencer.Hopkinson@G...> wrote:
> I'd like to stay in the group...I don't post a lot but I read all 
the messages for tips and tricks.

Thanks, Spence. By the way, since you're in the UK, what do you think 
about our trying to arrange a review of Koby products? That way, we 
could get information that might help those who don't have easy 
access to US suppliers. If the company also agreed to supply 
pertinent information about itself and its philosophy, we could all 
benefit.

Ed



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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:
> --- liberatusvirus wrote:
> > ...since you're in the UK, what do you think 
> > about our trying to arrange a review of Koby products?
> 
> I think that would be a splendid thing. But then, I would...

Stewart,

Just the guy I wanted to talk to. I've emailed Paul Bentley 
personally about this idea, because I noticed that he's not really a 
member of this group. I brought it up with him first so I figured 
that I'd give him first crack. But if Paul doesn't work out, do you 
want to get involved in this project? I could contact Schofield as 
the owner of this list blah blah blah and tell him that we are 
interested in his company's approach and would love to review any of 
his products that he'd like us to. I'd mention you. He'd be free to 
see the review, add anything to it that he deemed necessary, though 
you would have to have an absolutely free hand otherwise. What do you 
think?

Ed

--- liberatusvirus wrote:
> But if Paul doesn't work out, do you 
> want to get involved in this project?
> What do you think?

I would be up for that. Maybe Colin might be swayed if you mention 
he's based in my hometown ... B-)

-- S

Really Inspector, do you seriously expect me to believe that on 3/9/03 5:43
pm, "moosetication" <moosetication@...> said:

> --- liberatusvirus wrote:
>> But if Paul doesn't work out, do you
>> want to get involved in this project?
>> What do you think?
> 
> I would be up for that. Maybe Colin might be swayed if you mention
> he's based in my hometown ... B-)

As you have more experience of the stock Yamaha product you're probably the
better person to do a subjective review. I have a 'no more than a £1,000',
budget and I still have to work out if I can get the Kobys, and cymbals, and
a brain within that - and I'm not seeing much on eBay or anywhere else that
is what I'd call a bargain.

Koby is a one man, family funded business that grew out of the wreckage of
the Simmons days. I'd really like to support his enterprise as it is so rare
in Britain today. Personally, I think he should try and do a distribution
deal with Premier but......

pb

Really Inspector, do you seriously expect me to believe that on 3/9/03 3:11
pm, "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...> said:

> Thanks, Spence. By the way, since you're in the UK, what do you think
> about our trying to arrange a review of Koby products? That way, we
> could get information that might help those who don't have easy
> access to US suppliers. If the company also agreed to supply
> pertinent information about itself and its philosophy, we could all
> benefit.

The Koby web site leaves a lot to be desired doesn't it - almost zero
information! But Koby understandably don't have the budget for promotion
that Roland and Yamaha have. What they're about, and what they produce is
readily available however if you contact them. I have their promotional
material (from February) and I'll try and scan it as a pdf and post it to
the list Files archive over the weekend. If anyone needs information before
then just email me, or better still contact Koby direct:

Colin Schofield, Koby Drums
13-15 Roscoe Street,
Liverpool L1 2SX
Tel/Fax: 0151 709 8141
mobile: 07979783599

Really Inspector, do you seriously expect me to believe that on 3/9/03 3:31
pm, "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@...> said:

> Stewart,
> 
> Just the guy I wanted to talk to. I've emailed Paul Bentley
> personally about this idea, because I noticed that he's not really a
> member of this group.

Actually I am! - pb

And of course I should have included Koby's email and web site addresses:

mailto:contact@...

<http://www.koby.co.uk/>

and the old site archive with Nano pad information:

<http://www.koby.co.uk/archive/index.htm>

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bentley <pb@w...> wrote:
> Really Inspector, do you seriously expect me to believe that on 
3/9/03 3:31
> pm, "liberatusvirus" <liberatusvirus@y...> said:
I've emailed Paul Bentley
> > personally about this idea, because I noticed that he's not 
really a
> > member of this group.
> 
> Actually I am! - pb

My mistake. Just one in an endless stream of them, I'm sorry to say.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bentley <pb@w...> wrote:
> Really Inspector, do you seriously expect me to believe that on 
3/9/03 3:11
> The Koby web site leaves a lot to be desired doesn't it - almost 
zero
> information! But Koby understandably don't have the budget for 
promotion
> that Roland and Yamaha have. 

Yeah, the website is sparse--even less than the last time I visited 
it. Is that possible? But Koby looks to have some interesting 
products. I notice that the rubber snare seems to be dual zone rather 
than stereo, which is a rarity. The playing area on the rim seems to 
be color-coded to keep wayward drummers from going too far astray. 
Nice touch. Someone's in for a rollicking good time. Stewart, are you 
there, or has the time zone caught up with you?

--- Ed wrote:
> Stewart, are you there, or has the time zone
> caught up with you?

Still here. Always here (*).

Stewart

(*) According to Mrs Grumpy, that is.

--- Paul Bentley wrote:
> As you have more experience of the stock Yamaha product you're
> probably the better person to do a subjective review.

[sings, badly} "It ain't necessarily so..."

I've had my DTXPU since the end of April. This year. It occasionally 
feels like longer (usually when I've changed kit before saving the 
one I just carefully tweaked).

You most definitely have first shout.

It looks like what Colin's tried to do with the website is go for a 
more polished, corporate look, then run out of spare budget for it. 
Shame. I feel a barter coming on...

[polishes trusty copies of Namo Web Editor and Fog Creek Citydesk, 
twirls moustaches]

Stewart

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:

Stewart (Grumpy),

You da man if you wanna be. We can work it out behind the scenes a la 
my email to you at your convenience. We might also consult with 
Stephen and construct a template so that no one who undertakes a 
review will be flying without a net.

Ed (Dopey)

Ed:
Your idea of a template would be good for these reviews. That's why I 
asked if anyone wanted me to check out certain things with the 
Pintech products.
I certainly know what I want to look for, but others may have 
different criteria.

For Starters:
1. Construction/Road-worthiness
2. Plug-and-Playability (DTX Compatability)
3. Comparison to the DTX Counterpart
4. Feel
5. Sound 
6. Value
7. Warranty
8. Customer Service
9. Company Contact Info

Stephen (Happy)

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brown8700" <brown8700@a...> wrote:
That seems to pretty much cover the main issues. How about adding as 
follows:
> 1. Construction/Road-worthiness
and noise level for home use
> 2. Plug-and-Playability (DTX Compatability)
and compatibility with any other equipment that the reviewer has or 
knows well enough to venture a comment
> 3. Comparison to the DTX Counterpart
as well as other products (no ceiling)
> 4. Feel
relative to acoustic and/or other e-drum options
> 5. Sound 
headphones/amps--or do you mean stick or foot noise level. If not, 
maybe because of better signal-propagating materials or maybe  
because of a subjective response to other positive factors.
> 6. Value
relative to other list prices, as well as the "I want it" imperative
> 7. Warranty
> 8. Customer Service
> 9. Company Contact Info

Everyone please feel free to add to this outline; we'll refine it 
later.

Really Inspector, do you seriously expect me to believe that on 3/9/03 9:20
pm, "moosetication" <moosetication@...> said:
 
> You most definitely have first shout.

I think Ed would like to work with you and Stephen, so please feel free to
give it a go and have fun!

> It looks like what Colin's tried to do with the website is go for a
> more polished, corporate look, then run out of spare budget for it.
> Shame. I feel a barter coming on...

I rather gathered the site was being done by a friend as a favour which made
it rather difficult to suggest someone else did it - I was very tempted to
offer though as it isn't doing him any favours to have virtually no
information available online. Maybe, as it obviously isn't going anywhere
fast you'll be able to work out a mutually agreeable deal.

pb

Based on a recurring theme on the board, we might also add the WAF. 
For those of you not exposed to it before, this abbreviation stands 
for "Wife Acceptance Factor."  A good part of it would be covered in 
price and noise considerations, but we could reserve it for aesthetic 
purposes, as in "Okay, if you really have to buy this thing, I hope 
at least it looks good--for a drum anyway."

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bentley <pb@w...> wrote:
> Really Inspector, do you seriously expect me to believe that on 
3/9/03 9:20
> pm, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> said:
>  
> > You most definitely have first shout.
> 
> I think Ed would like to work with you and Stephen, so please feel 
free to
> give it a go and have fun!

Paul,

I didn't intend to squeeze you out by any means. I got the impression 
that you weren't comfortable with doing it at this stage of the game. 

Ed

> Based on a recurring theme on the board, we might also add the WAF. 
> For those of you not exposed to it before, this abbreviation stands 
> for "Wife Acceptance Factor."   A good part of it would be covered in 
> price and noise considerations, but we could reserve it for aesthetic 
> purposes, as in "Okay, if you really have to buy this thing, I hope 
> at least it looks good--for a drum anyway."
> 
> Since we are talking about a generic test form:
> 
1. False triggering/double triggering issues.
2. Mounting hardware compatiable with DTX rack.
3. The actual trigger settings that are found to work with the module it is
tested with.
4. Type of trigger device: Piezo/fsr; double/single.
5. Pad type: mesh/rubber/other. Pad size.
6. Any attenuation adjustments on the pad itself. 
7. The extent of documentation that comes with the pad that assists in the
setup with various manufacturers modules.
8. Any hot spots on the pad?


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> Everyone please feel free to add to this outline; we'll refine it 
> later.


Clearly, anyone providing a product review is going to be to some 
extent subjective. A product may be more easily setup or have a 
better feel to one person than to another.

Once we get a basic outline setup, we probably should test the form 
with some current trigger pads that are being used.

For example, pick a current Yamaha pad (PCY80S or PCY65S) and use it 
as an test subject for the outline form. Then when a new pad comes 
along for testing, your have a basis to compare it with. This will 
also help tweak the form. 

Just a thought.
 OGD