Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

I've had my dtxpress 2 for a couple of months now and have noticed 
that the pad on my kp65 has a small indent at the top of its impact 
point.  My question is, does this effect the triggers response to a 
noticable degree and what problems should I look for before deciding 
that I need to replace the entire kp65 unit?  Thanks. 

Adam

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "adamh52683" <adamh526@h...> wrote:
> I've had my dtxpress 2 for a couple of months now and have noticed 
> that the pad on my kp65 has a small indent at the top of its impact 
> point.  My question is, does this effect the triggers response to a 
> noticable degree and what problems should I look for before 
deciding 
> that I need to replace the entire kp65 unit?  Thanks. 
 
Adam, 

Many people have reported that the rubber surface on their KP65s 
began to show signs of wear within a few months. Although a little 
dent or soft spot wouldn't necessarily translate into a noticeable 
deficiency in triggering, you should take care before it gets 
serious. Just for the record, the Yamaha replacement part is 
p/n8587900, but there are easier, quicker fixes. OGD suggests gluing 
a rubber bicycle-tire patch to the face of the pad. Stephanie 
recommends applying a drum beater patch that you can buy at your 
local music store. Whatever method you choose, you should 
periodically switch the position of your beater slightly left/right 
and up/down to minimize further problems. By the way, these DIY 
strategies will not negate your warranty. 

One flaw or another has always dogged the DTXpress kick. The KP60 had 
a troublesome circuitboard, and the 65 has flimsy rubber on the 
exterior and possibly crumbly foam padding around the piezo. I've had 
a Drum Tech kick pad for more than 3 years. You can certainly tell 
where it's taken most of its punishment, but it has yet to flinch. 
It's all about price point. The Drum Tech is built like the 
proverbial tank, but it costs as much as a (small) tank, too.

Ed

I'll put in my 2 cents & personal experience here...

Similar to the previous mention of problematic circuit boards.

My DTXpress I set was having problems with my kick missing some 
trigger hits...I ordered TWO new replacement triggers & I replaced 
the trigger. Well guess what? Did not help at all! Damn!

Then I took it appart again & checked the circuit board & trigger 
jack connection. Seemed ok - Even under a magnifying glass!

Well, I re-soldered the connections anyway just in case there was a 
hair line broken solder joint...BINGO!!! For the 1st time in almost 
a year it's dead on!

Steve








 DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "adamh52683" <adamh526@h...> wrote:
> I've had my dtxpress 2 for a couple of months now and have noticed 
> that the pad on my kp65 has a small indent at the top of its 
impact 
> point.  My question is, does this effect the triggers response to 
a 
> noticable degree and what problems should I look for before 
deciding 

> that I need to replace the entire kp65 unit?  Thanks. 
> 
> Adam

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> wrote:
> I'll put in my 2 cents & personal experience here...
> 
> Similar to the previous mention of problematic circuit boards.
> 
> My DTXpress I set was having problems with my kick missing some 
> trigger hits...I ordered TWO new replacement triggers & I replaced 
> the trigger. Well guess what? Did not help at all! Damn!
> 
> Then I took it appart again & checked the circuit board & trigger 
> jack connection. Seemed ok - Even under a magnifying glass!
> 
> Well, I re-soldered the connections anyway just in case there was a 
> hair line broken solder joint...BINGO!!! For the 1st time in almost 
> a year it's dead on!

Steve,

Back in the 20th C, when I had just bought a DTXpress and was having 
the same problem as you, that's the first thing Dave told me to do. 
It's a good reminder: First check cable; then jack and visible 
connections; than re-solder everything. 

Ed

I'm having similar problems with my KP65. the sponge underneath the rubber cover has compacted on the right side (i'm using dbl pedals) and now produces a very weak signal, whereas the left side of the KP is still producing a healthy signal. Do i need a new piezo and sponge? If anybody has changed their's before I'd be interested to know if it's an easy operation and what the model numbers are of the parts needed.

This certainly seems to be one of the DTX flaws. Do the the DTX veterans out there just use different triggers to avoid this prob?

Thanks,

Max

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Max, 

I'm no expert or verteran, but when I changed the trigger out in my 
Kick pad I had to leave out part of a thick pad insert/wedge (if 
this is what you call a sponge?) peice as it would not fit back in 
the rubber cover with the new insert replacement.
So, what I'm saying is that the replacement I got was a 'complete' 
insert that totally filled up tight the inner part of the rubber 
cover. In fact so tight I struggled for quite a while to fit it back 
together & almost stripped the screws! - I got smart & used a clamp 
to hold it in place so I could screw it back together with less 
struggling.

Not so hard to change out otherwise! I thought one of the earlier 
above replies on this original thread gave a model number?
Anyway, I called Musicians Friend where I bought my DTXpress from & 
they gave me a number to call where they deal in DTXpress 
replacement parts!

Hope this helps.

Steve






--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, M E <maxplaysdrums@y...> wrote:
> 
> I'm having similar problems with my KP65. the sponge underneath 
the rubber cover has compacted on the right side (i'm using dbl 
pedals) and now produces a very weak signal, whereas the left side 
of the KP is still producing a healthy signal. Do i need a new piezo 
and sponge? If anybody has changed their's before I'd be interested 
to know if it's an easy operation and what the model numbers are of 
the parts needed.
> 
> This certainly seems to be one of the DTX flaws. Do the the DTX 
veterans out there just use different triggers to avoid this prob?

> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Max
> 
> 
> 
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