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Peratron video clips uploaded

Peratron video clips uploaded

2003-12-29 by musiccrafter2003

Hey guys I'm taking all of this in and truly do appreciate all of
the 
input that I have received from all of you. I just wanted to let you 
know that I was able to post 2 short video clips of the Peratron. One 
is the unit setting up automatically and the other one shows the unit 
being collapsed and a few seconds of the lower frame on a rotating on 
a turntable. The videos are posted at the Peratron sight. To access 
them login with the word video and username video. The clips reside 
in the documents library. Please let me know what you think. Here is 
the link http://www.musiccrafter.com/The_Peratron.asp

Thanks again!!
Bob Wilson

Re: [DTXpress] Peratron video clips uploaded

2003-12-29 by Vernon Graner

Hmm looked at the site, but didn't find any "documents" library. How
about a direct link or maybe place the videos on the group files
directory?


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musiccrafter2003 said:
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> Hey guys I'm taking all of this in and truly do appreciate all of
> the
> input that I have received from all of you. I just wanted to let you
> know that I was able to post 2 short video clips of the Peratron. One
> is the unit setting up automatically and the other one shows the unit
> being collapsed and a few seconds of the lower frame on a rotating on
> a turntable. The videos are posted at the Peratron sight. To access
> them login with the word video and username video. The clips reside
> in the documents library. Please let me know what you think. Here is
> the link http://www.musiccrafter.com/The_Peratron.asp
>
> Thanks again!!
> Bob Wilson
>
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RE: [DTXpress] Peratron video clips uploaded

2003-12-29 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

Vern,

Once you log in this should appear:

Logged In
You are now logged in. You have access to the following items:
*	Documents Library 
*	Update Your User Information
Your most riecent project that Music Crafter is working on will be found in
the documents library. This download is only acessable to you. Please review
the work and contact us with further revision request if nessisary. 

If you click on Documents Library it will take you to the box for selecting
the videos.

OGD

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Vernon Graner [SMTP:vern@...]
> Sent:	Monday, December 29, 2003 11:08 AM
> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	Re: [DTXpress] Peratron video clips uploaded
> 
> Hmm looked at the site, but didn't find any "documents" library. How
> about a direct link or maybe place the videos on the group files
> directory?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is down, then you're
> Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
> Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
> <http://www.txis.com>         | is up, then we obviously don't need
> Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG
> 
> 
> 
> 
> musiccrafter2003 said:
> > Hey guys I'm taking all of this in and truly do appreciate all of
> > the
> > input that I have received from all of you. I just wanted to let you
> > know that I was able to post 2 short video clips of the Peratron. One
> > is the unit setting up automatically and the other one shows the unit
> > being collapsed and a few seconds of the lower frame on a rotating on
> > a turntable. The videos are posted at the Peratron sight. To access
> > them login with the word video and username video. The clips reside
> > in the documents library. Please let me know what you think. Here is
> > the link <http://www.musiccrafter.com/The_Peratron.asp>
> >
> > Thanks again!!
> > Bob Wilson
> >
> >
> >
> > Community email addresses:
> >    Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
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> > Shortcut URL to this page:
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> > Alternate DTXpress site:
> >    <http://www.dtxpressions.com>
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RE: [DTXpress] Peratron video clips uploaded

2003-12-29 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

<<folding down.mpg.url>>  <<setting up 1.mpg.url>> 

Vern,

Here are some shortcuts to it, if that didn't work.

OGD

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Vernon Graner [SMTP:vern@...]
> Sent:	Monday, December 29, 2003 11:08 AM
> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	Re: [DTXpress] Peratron video clips uploaded
> 
> Hmm looked at the site, but didn't find any "documents" library. How
> about a direct link or maybe place the videos on the group files
> directory?
> 
 
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Re: Peratron video clips uploaded

2003-12-29 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "musiccrafter2003" <bob@m...> wrote:
> Hey guys I'm taking all of this in and truly do appreciate all of
> the 
> input that I have received from all of you. I just wanted to let 
you 
> know that I was able to post 2 short video clips of the Peratron. 
One 
> is the unit setting up automatically and the other one shows the 
unit 
> being collapsed and a few seconds of the lower frame on a rotating 
on 
> a turntable. The videos are posted at the Peratron sight. To access 
> them login with the word video and username video. The clips reside 
> in the documents library. Please let me know what you think. Here 
is 
> the link http://www.musiccrafter.com/The_Peratron.asp

Bob,

The frame is definitely a nifty piece of work. It looks strong enough 
to withstand punishment, and I assume that the mechanics of the 
unfolding are reliable. Every rack has its limitations with placement 
of the components, but yours has the added constraint of including 
the kick pedal and throne in the design. Locating the hi hat pad on 
the rack is not necessarily a deal breaker (though even entry-level 
kits are moving away from it), especially considering the advantages 
as a whole, but making sure that the configuration is adaptable to a 
large cross-section of the drumming public is essential. No one wants 
to be locked into an orientation that doesn't completely suit his/her 
playing style. For example, I notice that the center support appears 
to divide the two front toms from each other. Can the mounts pivot to 
bring them closer? You need a lot of drummers to sit down and test 
this thing. 

I'm still curious about how you will proceed in the matter of pads, 
which would, of course, handcuff drummers even more in the face of 
all the competition. It might be safer to make sure that all of the 
major pads can fit than to worry about including your own. If you 
look at small companies like Drum Tech, Sherpa, Layon, Genesis, et 
al., you get a sense of how difficult it is to win a profitable share 
of the market--even if you have great equipment. I'm by no means 
trying to be discouraging; I don't have the business acumen for that. 
But it's hard for us not to have gleaned some sense of the market in 
this niche after a few years of even informal scrutiny. Having a 
major company license or buy your product would certainly reduce your 
aggravation.

Ed

RE: [DTXpress] Peratron video clips uploaded

2003-12-29 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

Hi Bob,

Welcome to the group. Just a few questions/comments:

-Whose sound modules have you tried this with, since I don't see any
references in your post about it being furnished as a part of the kit. As
this would add another $350-$1600 to the overall kit.  

-I don't see a hihat pedal attachment point. I assume it would attach in a
similar fashion as the bass pedal but on the left hand side?

-Can this be modified/setup for a left hand drummer?

-How many pads can the cable snake handle, as most people end up adding an
extra cymbal or pad to fill out thier modules? Even the dtxpress module
comes with two spare zones. So if you connected just your pads to the dtxpu2
and someone what to add just one more pad, the cable would end up outside
the rack running back to zones 9/10 on the module. Therefore spare capacity
on the cable snack should be a serious consideration. (On my cable rack
system, I ran Stereo lines to all jacks, so that I could use any jack with
any pad type.)

-Have you given any consideration for a location for mounting a module to
the rack? The module could then travel with the rack. Or perhaps a
Quick-release bracket to hold the module,so it could be removed while in
transit.

-As someone with "disposable" income (see the photos of my kit in the
archive photo section), my point of view would be expandability. For me, if
I went this route, I would have to start with two racks and do some personal
modifications to the frame. If each rack with pads cost say $1000, it may be
bearable, if each rack costs $2000 then.....$4000 plus two modules... is
money "disposed" of in a better fashion elsewhere. So I think you definition
of your niche market if somewhat correct. Perhaps consideration for a add-on
rack less throne that colapses in a similar fashion. So in my case, it would
be a add-on on the left, the main rack with throne in the middle and an
add-on rack on the right. Again, this is just from my point of view.

-From looking at the prototype it appears there are gas charged lifts. Are
they the limiting factor in the pad types and expandability, due to the
weight issues. So if someone replaced a pad with a Yamaha pad, it maybe too
heavy and thus would not lift correctly or lift at all. This could also have
a impact in anyone using the Roland PM-3 or the new Yamaha MDA-50/100 that
has satillite speakers that mount to the frame. Also the clamps to hold the
speakers would need to be custom made to fit your rack.

-Some of us "OldGuy's" like nice big fat soft seats. The one shown may do
for a teenager, but we would need something more substantial. Since the seat
appears to come off before closing it, can anybody's seat be attached to it.

-I am assuming that all of the pads are single zone?

OGD
 

 




> -----Original Message-----
> From:	musiccrafter2003 [SMTP:bob@...]
> Sent:	Monday, December 29, 2003 11:01 AM
> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	[DTXpress] Peratron video clips uploaded
> 
> Hey guys I'm taking all of this in and truly do appreciate all of
> the 
> input that I have received from all of you. I just wanted to let you 
> know that I was able to post 2 short video clips of the Peratron. One 
> is the unit setting up automatically and the other one shows the unit 
> being collapsed and a few seconds of the lower frame on a rotating on 
> a turntable. The videos are posted at the Peratron sight. To access 
> them login with the word video and username video. The clips reside 
> in the documents library. Please let me know what you think. Here is 
> the link <http://www.musiccrafter.com/The_Peratron.asp>
> 
> Thanks again!!
> Bob Wilson
> 
 
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