Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

One feature that sounded interesting to me on the Roland video was 
the lack of the "machine gun" sound when playing fast. I can't 
remember what the Roland guy called it but as your playing speed 
increases, the attack decreases.I don't notice while I'm playing but 
when I listen to myself on a recording I notice alot of "machine gun" 
type sounds especialy on the snare. I hope the DTXtreme 2S has this 
feature.
Also those cymbal swells sounded sweet!!!

G

--- G wrote:
> I can't remember what the Roland guy called it but
> as your playing speed increases, the attack decreases.

Interval control - as the interval between successive triggers 
decreases, the attack phase is shortened (from the front, not the 
back, if you see what I mean).

Stewart

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "G" <kickflippin@h...> wrote:
> One feature that sounded interesting to me on the Roland video was 
> the lack of the "machine gun" sound when playing fast. I can't 
> remember what the Roland guy called it but as your playing speed 
> increases, the attack decreases.I don't notice while I'm playing 
but 
> when I listen to myself on a recording I notice alot of "machine 
gun" 
> type sounds especialy on the snare. I hope the DTXtreme 2S has this 
> feature.
> Also those cymbal swells sounded sweet!!!

I know what you mean. I'd like to hear what the Yamaha does, too. 
It's been said a lot lately, but listen to the relatively old ddrum 
module as well. It accomplishes what the Roland seems to on 
completely different principles (multisampling of each voice and 
analog triggering). To my mind, however, in more current terms, the 
DTXtremeIIS might well be the long-awaited happy alternative to the 
exorbitant Roland high end.

Ed

Speaking of multisampling/multi-layering. How many layers do each of you
think is enough for a particular voice. 

For example, with the Yamaha module you can have two voice layers per pad.
How many layers would each of you think it should be?

The reason I ask is, that with the anticipation of the up coming modules, I
will be adding one to my set. The total number of pads that I have are fine,
I will simply replace portions with the dtxtreme IIS. So my thoughts are to
take a typical pad say Tom1 and run it to two modules, thus allowing me to
assign up to four layers per tom1 (two layers on module 1 and two layers on
module 2). And in fact, if I wanted a real custom snare sound, I could run a
TP65S to three input triggers, say module 1, inputs 2,6,7 and end up with 6
layers assignable to the pad peizo and three layered voices per rim switch.

Just a fun question? Anybody?

OGD

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> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "G" <kickflippin@h...> wrote:
> > One feature that sounded interesting to me on the Roland video was 
> > the lack of the "machine gun" sound when playing fast. I can't 
> > remember what the Roland guy called it but as your playing speed 
> > increases, the attack decreases.I don't notice while I'm playing 
> but 
> > when I listen to myself on a recording I notice alot of "machine 
> gun" 
> > type sounds especialy on the snare. I hope the DTXtreme 2S has this 
> > feature.
> > Also those cymbal swells sounded sweet!!!
> 
> I know what you mean. I'd like to hear what the Yamaha does, too. 
> It's been said a lot lately, but listen to the relatively old ddrum 
> module as well. It accomplishes what the Roland seems to on 
> completely different principles (multisampling of each voice and 
> analog triggering). To my mind, however, in more current terms, the 
> DTXtremeIIS might well be the long-awaited happy alternative to the 
> exorbitant Roland high end.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
 
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--- OGD wrote:
> How many layers do each of you
> think is enough for a particular voice. 

I've thought about this a few times, and had to come to the 
conclusion that I couldn't work out what I'd use more than two for - 
but probably because I've never had more than two! The DTX had five, 
didn't it?

I know one thing - you'd need a UI better than the DTXpress if you 
didn't want to end up on the funny farm...

Stewart

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> Speaking of multisampling/multi-layering. How many layers do each 
of you
> think is enough for a particular voice. 
> 
> For example, with the Yamaha module you can have two voice layers 
per pad.

OGD,

The modules and trigger to midi interfaces that permitted multiple 
stacking of four or five notes usually also offered the ability to 
alternate them in various patterns to create percussive or musical 
loops. Obviously the DTXpress doesn't have that feature, in which 
case two layers seem adequate, but, as Zero Mostel said in the 
Producers, if you got it, flaunt it. You just might come up with 
something fantastic. Ddrum's multisampling doesn't have the same 
synthetic foundation. Its rationale was simply to make a particular 
drum or cymbal sound as natural as possible under various percussive, 
positional, and ambient conditions.

Ed