Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hey, everybody!  I've been contemplating the idea of integrating an 
acoustic drum kit into my e-kit, but using it as an electronic.  I 
want to replace the heads with mesh heads and add ddrum triggers for 
use with my dtx2 brains, and then mounting it to my rack probably 
using gibralter clamps.  Has anybody in this group done this before?  
If so, any suggestions fo me?  I'm not planning on spending alot of 
money on kit, due to the fact that I won't be using it for its' 
sound.  But, I do want the best triggers available, and that are 
compatible with the dtx's.

Thanks for the help!

Brett

You should head over to eDrumming.com with all due haste. Several of 
its denizens have done this to one degree or another. The forum's 
ownder, Chris Jude, has an almost indecently beautiful Sonor e-
conversion. Moreover, it has a very extensive links library pointing 
off to various other sites with information.

Stewart

--- "Brett" wrote:

> I've been contemplating the idea of integrating an 
> acoustic drum kit into my e-kit, but using it as an
> electronic.  I want to replace the heads with mesh
> heads and add ddrum triggers ... Has anybody in this
> group done this before?

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Brett" <baaron_123@y...> wrote:
> Hey, everybody!  I've been contemplating the idea of integrating an 
> acoustic drum kit into my e-kit, but using it as an electronic.  I 
> want to replace the heads with mesh heads and add ddrum triggers 
for 
> use with my dtx2 brains, and then mounting it to my rack probably 
> using gibralter clamps.  Has anybody in this group done this 
before?  
> If so, any suggestions fo me?  I'm not planning on spending alot of 
> money on kit, due to the fact that I won't be using it for its' 
> sound.  But, I do want the best triggers available, and that are 
> compatible with the dtx's.

Brett,

It's not that difficult to do but takes some ingenuity to do well. 
Check out http://www.electronicdrums.com/. The conversion designs 
cost a small fee to access, but membership gets you a small 
conversion packet with piezos and such, as well as step by step 
instructions for a number of different options. As Stewart reports, 
Jude's conversion is right out in the open for all to see, both on 
his website and at the edrumming and vdrums .com sites.

Ed

Ed

Thanks Stewart and Ed for the responses!  I've checked out the site many times before, and in fact, I've made a couple home made Remo practice pad/E-drum conversions and they work well.  I want to do something similar to Judes' conversion.  I am running on assumption at this point, and haven't really heard, but are the ddrum triggers fairly reliable triggers to use with the dtx2 brains?  I think that, above all else, is my biggest concern.

emf <liberatusvirus@...> wrote:--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Brett" <baaron_123@y...> wrote:
> Hey, everybody!  I've been contemplating the idea of integrating an 
> acoustic drum kit into my e-kit, but using it as an electronic.  I 
> want to replace the heads with mesh heads and add ddrum triggers 
for 
> use with my dtx2 brains, and then mounting it to my rack probably 
> using gibralter clamps.  Has anybody in this group done this 
before?  
> If so, any suggestions fo me?  I'm not planning on spending alot of 
> money on kit, due to the fact that I won't be using it for its' 
> sound.  But, I do want the best triggers available, and that are 
> compatible with the dtx's.

Brett,

It's not that difficult to do but takes some ingenuity to do well. 
Check out http://www.electronicdrums.com/. The conversion designs 
cost a small fee to access, but membership gets you a small 
conversion packet with piezos and such, as well as step by step 
instructions for a number of different options. As Stewart reports, 
Jude's conversion is right out in the open for all to see, both on 
his website and at the edrumming and vdrums .com sites.

Ed

Ed 




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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Brett <baaron_123@y...> wrote:
> Thanks Stewart and Ed for the responses!  I've checked out the site 
many times before, and in fact, I've made a couple home made Remo 
practice pad/E-drum conversions and they work well.  I want to do 
something similar to Judes' conversion.  I am running on assumption 
at this point, and haven't really heard, but are the ddrum triggers 
fairly reliable triggers to use with the dtx2 brains?  I think that, 
above all else, is my biggest concern.
 
Brett,

I had heard some time ago--in the DTXpressI days--that the ddrum 
triggers were problematical with the Yamaha module. Recently, 
however, someone told me that the redshot series appears to have no 
trouble with the DTXpressII module. I can't vouch for the higher-end 
version. In Clavia's own words: 

"ddrum Triggers are designed to work with ddrumAT, ddrum3 and ddrum4 
sound modules. They may also work with other brands, but the 
functionality cannot be guaranteed. Some drum modules have problems 
detecting the trig signal from ddrum Triggers. If you want to try 
anyway, it important to know that Pin 2 is hot and Pin 1 is shield on 
the ddrum Triggers. Some microphone cables have Pin 3 hot and some 
drum modules may be designed according to this."

Ed

Ah...good things to know!  Thanks for the heads up, Ed!

emf <liberatusvirus@...> wrote:--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Brett <baaron_123@y...> wrote:
> Thanks Stewart and Ed for the responses!  I've checked out the site 
many times before, and in fact, I've made a couple home made Remo 
practice pad/E-drum conversions and they work well.  I want to do 
something similar to Judes' conversion.  I am running on assumption 
at this point, and haven't really heard, but are the ddrum triggers 
fairly reliable triggers to use with the dtx2 brains?  I think that, 
above all else, is my biggest concern.

Brett,

I had heard some time ago--in the DTXpressI days--that the ddrum 
triggers were problematical with the Yamaha module. Recently, 
however, someone told me that the redshot series appears to have no 
trouble with the DTXpressII module. I can't vouch for the higher-end 
version. In Clavia's own words: 

"ddrum Triggers are designed to work with ddrumAT, ddrum3 and ddrum4 
sound modules. They may also work with other brands, but the 
functionality cannot be guaranteed. Some drum modules have problems 
detecting the trig signal from ddrum Triggers. If you want to try 
anyway, it important to know that Pin 2 is hot and Pin 1 is shield on 
the ddrum Triggers. Some microphone cables have Pin 3 hot and some 
drum modules may be designed according to this."

Ed



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Brett,

I use redshot triggers with my DTX2 brain and they work perfectly...they're also half the price of normal ddrum triggers.

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Thanks, Max
 
The redshots are the ones I'm most interested in, and it's good to hear that someone has some good things to say about them.  You've been a great help with that little bit of info...
 
Keep the beat moving forward, 
Brett

M E <maxplaysdrums@...> wrote:

Brett, 

I use redshot triggers with my DTX2 brain and they work perfectly...they're also half the price of normal ddrum triggers.

Max



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