Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hi. This is my first post here. I've had a DTXII for about a year. 
I've been using it for recording and I think it sounds good with the 
rest of the rock band I'm recording with, with one exception: I 
can't get the toms sounding puncy enough. Right now I'm using a 
modified version of the Rock Kit (factory preset 3) for mu user 
preset. I'm using the Room2 (Hi, Mid, Lo) tom sounds instead of the 
Room1 (Hi, Mid, Lo) toms. The Room2 toms are the punchiest I could 
find, but they still don't seem to cut through the mix. I'm looking 
for something with a sharper attack with more a stick sound. Any 
suggestions?

--- bbdude22004 wrote:
> I'm looking for something with a sharper attack
> with more a stick sound. Any suggestions?

Remember - layering is your friend. Have a look for some sounds that 
have the attack you need (but perhaps miss out on the overall sound 
or sustain) and layer them on your tom sounds.

Stewart

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" 
<moosetication@y...> wrote:
> --- bbdude22004 wrote:
> > I'm looking for something with a sharper attack
> > with more a stick sound. Any suggestions?
> 
> Remember - layering is your friend. Have a look for some sounds 
that 
> have the attack you need (but perhaps miss out on the overall 
sound 
> or sustain) and layer them on your tom sounds.

I'm planning on having a tom tinker myself sometime soon.  I was 
wondering how layering acoustic and electric toms would sound as I 
seem to recall the electric tom sounds having more bite.

Unfortunately, I'm having a studio* move round at the moment so 
everything's disconnected right now.

Chris

*Grand term for back bedroom full to the rafters with musical 
equipment

--- Chris wrote:
> I was wondering how layering acoustic and electric
> toms would sound as I seem to recall the electric
> tom sounds having more bite.

Don't rule out "non-tom" sounds too. Some of the "ethnic" percussion 
may have the attack you seek. I'd have a play too, but we have a 
house full of 13-year-olds (#3 daughter's birthday) and I'm hiding 
in the study...

Stewart

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" 
<moosetication@y...> wrote:
> --- Chris wrote:
> > I was wondering how layering acoustic and electric
> > toms would sound as I seem to recall the electric
> > tom sounds having more bite.
> 
> Don't rule out "non-tom" sounds too. Some of the "ethnic" 
percussion 
> may have the attack you seek.

I hadn't thought of that.  Another excellent tip!  It could however 
lead to me spending hours and hours layering every possible 
combination of sounds.  Hmm... a gong might give the floor tom a 
boost. :-)

Chris

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <proguk@h...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" 
> <moosetication@y...> wrote:
> > --- Chris wrote:
> > > I was wondering how layering acoustic and electric
> > > toms would sound as I seem to recall the electric
> > > tom sounds having more bite.
> > 
> > Don't rule out "non-tom" sounds too. Some of the "ethnic" 
> percussion 
> > may have the attack you seek.
> 
> I hadn't thought of that.  Another excellent tip!  It could 
however 
> lead to me spending hours and hours layering every possible 
> combination of sounds.  Hmm... a gong might give the floor tom a 
> boost. :-)
> 
> Chris

Personally, I've found that if you're looking for a good clean 
acoustic tom sound, layering the Maple tom sounds is the way to go.  
For my high tom I use Maple12/Maple10, meduim is Maple14/Maple12, 
and low is Maple16/Maple14.  I acutally got the idea from the 
Funk4pc syx file that is availbe in the files section.  As far 
as "punch" is concerned, certain tuning combo's between the higher 
and lower tom sound for each drum make a big difference.  Hope that 
helps.

- Adam

--- adamh52683 wrote:

> Personally, I've found that ...layering the Maple
> tom sounds is the way to go.  

Same here, except I layer MapleXX with a touch of the equivalent 
Room1 tom. All I do for different styles of kit is adjust the amount 
of Room1 and change the overall tuning. I haven't found a more 
pleasing combination yet.

Stewart