Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hi,

I just got my dtxpress 3.. its a nice unit and all.  I do notice the 
following problems:

Rack clamps seem a bit light.. not stable as i'd like them to be, do 
they sell better ones?  not that i want to sink more money into 
these, i wonder if Gibraltar clamps would work.

I really have to mash down hard on the hihat pedal even with the 
shortest stroke.  is this normal?

crosstalk - hihat is triggering when I hit the snare sometimes.

I dunno, I was hoping for better quality in some things..  I wont 
say im disappointed yet, too new to the e-drum thing.

What do you all think?  Any suggestions, recommendations?

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "afunkydrumr" <afunkydrumr@y...> 
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just got my dtxpress 3.. its a nice unit and all.  I do notice 
the 
> following problems:
> 
> Rack clamps seem a bit light.. not stable as i'd like them to be, 
do 
> they sell better ones?  not that i want to sink more money into 
> these, i wonder if Gibraltar clamps would work.
> 
> I really have to mash down hard on the hihat pedal even with the 
> shortest stroke.  is this normal?
> 
> crosstalk - hihat is triggering when I hit the snare sometimes.
> 
> I dunno, I was hoping for better quality in some things..  I wont 
> say im disappointed yet, too new to the e-drum thing.
> 
> What do you all think?  Any suggestions, recommendations?


Welcome,

Yes the Gibraltar clamps work fine on the dtxpress rack. The cross 
talk between the snare and hihat are typical. You will need to adjust 
the specrej between the two pads to a higher number (page 13 of the 
reference guide, 1-5. Specfic Rejection). 

A starting point would be:

TRIG IN = 2, SPCRej=4 frm= 8

TRIG IN = 8, SPCRej=4 frm= 2

Adjust the SPCRej number (0-9) to the lowest number that is 
acceptable.

The other option would be to move the hihat pad to the alternate 
mounting location beside the module, if you are a "heavy hitter". 
Just remember with e-drums, a lighter touch is better. Let the 
electronic do the amplification.

OGD

> A starting point would be:
> 
> TRIG IN = 2, SPCRej=4 frm= 8
> 
> TRIG IN = 8, SPCRej=4 frm= 2
> 

I find the high-hat more sensitive to the snare rather than the other
way round, possibly because the high hat is closer to a more rigid
section of the rack.  Setting I use are:

TRIG IN = 2, SPCRej=4 frm= 8

TRIG IN = 8, SPCRej=0 frm= 2

Keith.

From: Keith 

" find the high-hat more sensitive to the snare rather than the other
way round, possibly because the high hat is closer to a more rigid
section of the rack.  Setting I use are:

TRIG IN = 2, SPCRej=4 frm= 8

TRIG IN = 8, SPCRej=0 frm= 2

Keith."
 
Using Keith's setting   is probably a better place to start with.  My pads
are located so close together, I typically require a higher setting than
most  and sometimes forget that. 
 
OGD 





 
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Interestingly, I just took my left hand side frame apart and refitted 
the units so that the snare clamp is inner ( towards the front of the 
rack - ie further away from you )  and the hi hat is outer - it feels 
a lot better as the hi hat pad is in a more natural ( well for me 
anyway ) position with the snare between my legs and the hi hat over 
to my left. Feels a lot better.
Can post a pic if you like ?

One thing that someone may be able to help with - the brain - do you 
think it would be better mounted off the frame on a seperate stand as 
it seems to me it gets a lot of vibration sat up there from the pads -
 will it come to any harm ??

Cheers

Andy


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> From: Keith 
> 
> " find the high-hat more sensitive to the snare rather than the 
other
> way round, possibly because the high hat is closer to a more rigid
> section of the rack.  Setting I use are:
> 
> TRIG IN = 2, SPCRej=4 frm= 8
> 
> TRIG IN = 8, SPCRej=0 frm= 2
> 
> Keith."
>  
> Using Keith's setting   is probably a better place to start with.  
My pads
> are located so close together, I typically require a higher setting 
than
> most  and sometimes forget that. 
>  
> OGD 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Griffin" <andygk7@y...> wrote:
> One thing that someone may be able to help with - the brain - do 
you 
> think it would be better mounted off the frame on a seperate stand 
as 
> it seems to me it gets a lot of vibration sat up there from the 
pads -
>  will it come to any harm ??

Andy,

The brain doesn't really have anything inside that is likely to 
suffer from too much jiggling in the way that a CD player would. To 
my mind, the best reasons to get it off the rack are that it takes up 
too much drumming real estate and it's sometimes too hard to 
read/program at its usual locations.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Griffin" <andygk7@y...> wrote:
> > One thing that someone may be able to help with - the brain - do 
> you 
> > think it would be better mounted off the frame on a seperate stand 
> as 
> > it seems to me it gets a lot of vibration sat up there from the 
> pads -
> >  will it come to any harm ??
> 
> Andy,
> 
> The brain doesn't really have anything inside that is likely to 
> suffer from too much jiggling in the way that a CD player would. To 
> my mind, the best reasons to get it off the rack are that it takes up 
> too much drumming real estate and it's sometimes too hard to 
> read/program at its usual locations.
> 
> Ed

Or you hit it!

Keith.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" <keith@k...> wrote:

Keith,

Just in case you check the board before you check your email, I sent 
you an email about the magic box. Just a heads up; no need to respond.

Ed

Thanks for the help guys, I'll give it a try!

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" <keith@k...> wrote:
> > A starting point would be:
> > 
> > TRIG IN = 2, SPCRej=4 frm= 8
> > 
> > TRIG IN = 8, SPCRej=4 frm= 2
> > 
> 
> I find the high-hat more sensitive to the snare rather than the 
other

> way round, possibly because the high hat is closer to a more rigid
> section of the rack.  Setting I use are:
> 
> TRIG IN = 2, SPCRej=4 frm= 8
> 
> TRIG IN = 8, SPCRej=0 frm= 2
> 
> Keith.

Moving the module?? I was thinking about moving mine to the center of 
the red bar, puts it at great, safe spot...and I would say less cords 
showing/in the way. Has anyone done this?

P.S. My kit is half a week old and its the new DTXpress III ST. 

-Zack-

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "supernovanexus" 
<supernovanexus@y...> wrote:
> Moving the module?? I was thinking about moving mine to the center 
of 
> the red bar, puts it at great, safe spot...and I would say less 
cords 
> showing/in the way. Has anyone done this?
> 
> P.S. My kit is half a week old and its the new DTXpress III ST. 
> 
> -Zack-


That's exacting where I have mine. Directly under the three front 
toms and they are impossible to hit accidentally. You can't see them 
from the photo in the gallery area, but they are just above the mixer 
and keyboard amp.

OGD