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  File        : /black box.m3u 
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  Description : an early version of an original done on my dtxpress modules,and my pintech kit!!! 

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otacon28us <reva@...>

The file doesn't work. It is only a 1kb file.  .m3u files are
playlists and not the actual audio files.
Post the audio, I would like to hear it.
Later:)
--- In DTXpress@y..., DTXpress@y... wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the DTXpress 
> group.
> 
>   File        : /black box.m3u 
>   Uploaded by : otacon28us <reva@s...> 
>   Description : an early version of an original done on my dtxpress
modules,and my pintech kit!!! 

> 
> You can access this file at the URL
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress/files/black%20box.m3u 
> 
> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit
> 
> http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
> 
> Regards,
> 
> otacon28us <reva@s...>

i have this track and another track on a cd from when i was in the 
studio working on these tunes(it's an early version of the tunes) 
basically just the music tracks, but it still gives the basic idea... 
i have real player on my pc,and all i need to know is how i can pull 
it up ,and where to save it so i can get access when i go into the 
file posting area ... do i need to post the file through my 
dtxpress?? or can it just be pulled up some other how.. please excuse 
my technical ignorance,i'm not big on doing alot of audio stuff with 
my pc yet..

as soon as i find out how to post these tracks ,i'll get them right 
on there,,

thanks,
    sam(otacon28)

--- In DTXpress@y..., "bubbastrick" <jstrickland@c...> wrote:
> The file doesn't work. It is only a 1kb file.  .m3u files are
> playlists and not the actual audio files.
> Post the audio, I would like to hear it.
> Later:)
> --- In DTXpress@y..., DTXpress@y... wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > This email message is a notification to let you know that
> > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the DTXpress 
> > group.
> > 
> >   File        : /black box.m3u 
> >   Uploaded by : otacon28us <reva@s...> 
> >   Description : an early version of an original done on my 
dtxpress

> modules,and my pintech kit!!! 
> > 
> > You can access this file at the URL
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress/files/black%20box.m3u 
> > 
> > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit
> > 
> > http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > otacon28us <reva@s...>

Hello,

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  File        : /oms dtx.mp3 
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thanks a bunch Ill try it with my dtxpress II I hope this works 
better than the last one.
peace
Bill
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, DTXpress@yahoogroups.com wrote:

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> 
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> 
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> 
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ilusionsysop <vern@...>

When I tried to make a sign I just get a strange symbol instead of the
picture, am I missing something ??

Gunny

  -----Original Message-----
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  Sent: 11 February 2004 03:12
  To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [DTXpress] New file uploaded to DTXpress



  Hello,

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Hmm not sure what might be up with that... I was able to make all the
signs no problem... Could it be the PDF reader you're using? I was using
Acrobat reader V5 for the one I posted here....

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nicholas.gunn@... said:

> When I tried to make a sign I just get a strange symbol instead of the
> picture, am I missing something ??
>
> Gunny
>
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>
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Hello Dan,

The review is much appreciated. I wonder if you could put it in 
another format. As is, it runs all on one line, without any scrolling 
text. 

Ed

For that money, you could have picked up the Behringer kx1200, and 
you would have given nothing but praise.

Hindsight is aways 20/20

I appreciate the review Rob!
Gilligan

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <robarrie2003@y...> wrote:
> For that money, you could have picked up the Behringer kx1200, and 
> you would have given nothing but praise.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <robarrie2003@y...> wrote:
> For that money, you could have picked up the Behringer kx1200, and 
> you would have given nothing but praise.

Rob,

Let's be fair. I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but 
Behringer's quality control and reliability are by no means a lock. 
The company still has some proving to do before the odds are stacked 
in its favor, despite the fact that a few members of this group have 
had good luck with the KX1200. Buying a Yamaha monitor, purportedly 
designed expressly for its current kits, would not on the surface 
seem a terribly dangerous move (Yamaha's quality control and 
reliability have always been top notch), even though the specs might 
seem a little suspect for an e-kit. That Dan found the sound quality 
so bad is a bit of a surprise. I might have predicted that the bass 
would be thin and the volume inadequate for certain purposes, but 
even within those limitations, other sonic qualities might have been 
able to elevate it to respectability. It will be interesting to build 
a larger database about the various options.

Ed

Ed, I agree with you to a point... I have played on the "smaller" 
yamaha set and I can't imagine what the difference would be in 
the "sattilite" speakers but they are awful... very harsh! but 
granted cymbals aren't easy to reproduce!  especially cheaply!

Gilligan

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <robarrie2003@y...> wrote:
> > For that money, you could have picked up the Behringer kx1200, 
and 
> > you would have given nothing but praise.
> 
> Rob,
> 
> Let's be fair. I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but 
> Behringer's quality control and reliability are by no means a lock. 
> The company still has some proving to do before the odds are 
stacked 
> in its favor, despite the fact that a few members of this group 
have 
> had good luck with the KX1200. Buying a Yamaha monitor, purportedly 
> designed expressly for its current kits, would not on the surface 
> seem a terribly dangerous move (Yamaha's quality control and 
> reliability have always been top notch), even though the specs 
might 
> seem a little suspect for an e-kit. That Dan found the sound 
quality 
> so bad is a bit of a surprise. I might have predicted that the bass 
> would be thin and the volume inadequate for certain purposes, but 
> even within those limitations, other sonic qualities might have 
been 
> able to elevate it to respectability. It will be interesting to 
build 

> a larger database about the various options.
> 
> Ed

On Fri June 11 2004 3:58 pm, Rob wrote:
> For that money, you could have picked up the Behringer kx1200, and
> you would have given nothing but praise.

Same here...  I have one of those.  It's held up very well.
-- 
Stephanie AKA Deaf Drummer

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Richard" <kevin_richard@b...> 
wrote:
> Ed, I agree with you to a point... I have played on the "smaller" 
> yamaha set and I can't imagine what the difference would be in 
> the "sattilite" speakers but they are awful... very harsh! but 
> granted cymbals aren't easy to reproduce!  especially cheaply!

No part of the frequency range is easy to produce cheaply, but the 
top and bottom ends are especially difficult to reproduce without 
some design finesse. I'm not sure what our areas of agreement and 
disagreement are about this, but I'm by no means contradicting 
anything that anyone has reported about the Yamaha monitor. I'm only 
saying that its anemic specs, and the weak performance that they 
imply under certain conditions, do not necessarily also mean that 
they would sound so awful within these limitations. The bad sound is 
an empirical observation that was not predictable without listening. 
No one should be faulted because they didn't anticipate it. I'd love 
to get many more reviews of amps, both known and unknown, for member 
to discuss.

Ed

Well, I think this particular model should be discontinued, I'm glad 
I never had the chance to hear something from yamaha that produces 
such horrible sound. It is unfortunate for one of our members to have 
gone through such a travesty.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> Hello Dan,
> 
> The review is much appreciated. I wonder if you could put it in 
> another format. As is, it runs all on one line, without any 
scrolling 
> text. 
> 
> Ed

Ouch! Sorry, Ed!
That's not good!
I just typed directly to the "add file" page. Should I redo as a 
Word Doc. or what do you suggest?
Thanks for the alert.
Dan

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <robarrie2003@y...> wrote:
> Well, I think this particular model should be discontinued, I'm 
glad 
> I never had the chance to hear something from yamaha that produces 
> such horrible sound. It is unfortunate for one of our members to 
have 
> gone through such a travesty.

Rob, I appreciate the support, but.......
"It's all cool". Ed and I had tossed around the possible pro's and 
con's of this system before my purchase(thanks Ed). I knew going in 
that it would be somewhat weak,but there were no hidden specs or 
misleading claims: 8" 50watt woofer, 4" 20watt satellites- you can 
only "punch" so hard with those tools!!! As we've read of members 
experimenting with computer desktop speakers and other systems( NOT 
designed for the wide e-drum ranges), this certainly seemed like the 
right alternative as an inexpensive means for light to moderate 
amplification (DESIGNED for e-drums by the e-drum manufacturer!)The 
real issue here is probably more on a personal note, as I think 
maybe I expected way too much from way too little...wrong tool for 
the job!- probably common with 1st time e-drummers.I was so blown 
away by the incredible sound of the DTXIIS through headphones, I 
realy couldn't stand to listen through the amp. I waited a while to 
allow time to adjust before making my decision to bail on the 
MS50DR. Since then, I have discovered some suppliers are not selling 
the unit anymore, and,in fact, it's not showing up on the Yamaha 
website...HHHHmmmmmm!
As for other choices, it's great to hear success stories with other 
amps (esp. at lower prices), but I do have a small reason for opting 
to the rack mounted satellite/seperate woofer systems as opposed to 
the larger single amps... STEREO! Since I'm not gigging mixing 
PA'ing etc., I think it's cool to have the stereo sounds separate 
right at the rack and emit from the satellite speakers on the same 
side of the kit where they are mounted, instead of all out of one 
speaker. The "separation" of the toms, snare and cymbals(heard 
mostly through the satellites) from the kick (mostly subwoofer-not 
completely but noticable) helps with definition even if it's mosty 
psychological.
As a side note, I chose the Roland PM-3 as a replacement. Same setup 
but with 100watt DUAL woofer and 50watt satellites...MMMUUUUCH 
BETTER!!! Review to come. I slightly regret not giving the Yamaha 
MS100DR a chance just to satisfy my curiosity on pure wattage alone, 
but another time-another member!
Anyway, thanks for the concern and comments!

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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> Hello Dan,
> 
> The review is much appreciated. I wonder if you could put it in 
> another format. As is, it runs all on one line, without any 
scrolling 
> text. 
> 
> Ed

   Ed, I sent a Word doc. this morning and deleted "the worlds 
longest sentence". Hope that's better
P.S. I tried to be a little more professional and not so fuming
Thanks
Dan

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Cheak" <cheak@i...> wrote:
> As a side note, I chose the Roland PM-3 as a replacement. Same 
setup 
> but with 100watt DUAL woofer and 50watt satellites...MMMUUUUCH 
> BETTER!!! Review to come. 

Just for the record, I'm a big fan of the Roland PM-3 as a practice 
tool. My only reservation about it (the same one I have for many of 
Roland's products) is the price tag, though it is available from time 
to time at a more reasonable cost. By the way, nothing about the PM-
3's published specs (including its modest increase in power) would 
lead anyone to believe that its sound quality, at any volume, would 
be worlds better than the Yamaha monitor. I was hoping that the 
MS50DR and its larger brother were Yamaha's price-conscious answer to 
it. Sadly, it appears not, and if Dan is right, Yamaha might be going 
back to the drawing board. Personally, I didn't think that Yamaha was 
capable of such a glaring error in an area that would seem to be such 
a slam dunk for them.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Cheak" <cheak@i...> wrote:
> > As a side note, I chose the Roland PM-3 as a replacement. Same 
> setup 
> > but with 100watt DUAL woofer and 50watt satellites...MMMUUUUCH 
> > BETTER!!! Review to come. 
> 
> Just for the record, I'm a big fan of the Roland PM-3 as a 
practice 
> tool. My only reservation about it (the same one I have for many 
of 
> Roland's products) is the price tag, though it is available from 
time 
> to time at a more reasonable cost. By the way, nothing about the 
PM-
> 3's published specs (including its modest increase in power) would 
> lead anyone to believe that its sound quality, at any volume, 
would 
> be worlds better than the Yamaha monitor. I was hoping that the 
> MS50DR and its larger brother were Yamaha's price-conscious answer 
to 
> it. Sadly, it appears not, and if Dan is right, Yamaha might be 
going 
> back to the drawing board. Personally, I didn't think that Yamaha 
was 
> capable of such a glaring error in an area that would seem to be 
such 
> a slam dunk for them.
> 
> Ed

Ed, I too, expect the MS100DR is probably equal to the PM-3 and 
would probably be satisfactory for an in-home unit. I was able to 
get the PM-3 for the same $$ as the MS100DR and was leary of the 
Yamaha after the MS50 (probably should have tried the MS100DR). I 
kept wondering how They(Yamaha) could create such a great sounding 
kit and then let fly with such a subpar monitor. But let's remember 
here, this is one man's opinion- and an amateur at that! I am by no 
means an electrical or sound expert. I just thought my needs were 
about as minimal as they get, and just couldn't justify even $300 
for something I couldn't stand to listen to. I wish now that I had 
tried the 100watter to allow Yamaha to redeem itself(only to me). I 
absolutely love the DTXtremeIIS and I'm only mildly disappointed 
about the monitor- not at all ready to bash Yamaha.
Thanks, as always, for your insights!
Dan

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Cheak" <cheak@i...> wrote:

> Ed, I too, expect the MS100DR is probably equal to the PM-3 and 
> would probably be satisfactory for an in-home unit. I was able to 
> get the PM-3 for the same $$ as the MS100DR and was leary of the 
> Yamaha after the MS50 (probably should have tried the MS100DR). I 
> kept wondering how They(Yamaha) could create such a great sounding 
> kit and then let fly with such a subpar monitor. But let's remember 
> here, this is one man's opinion- and an amateur at that! I am by no 
> means an electrical or sound expert. I just thought my needs were 
> about as minimal as they get, and just couldn't justify even $300 
> for something I couldn't stand to listen to. I wish now that I had 
> tried the 100watter to allow Yamaha to redeem itself(only to me). I 
> absolutely love the DTXtremeIIS and I'm only mildly disappointed 
> about the monitor- not at all ready to bash Yamaha.

Dan,

Gilligan didn't like it either, and you certainly had a better
reaction to the PM-3. Frankly, I love Yamaha's products, and I
sincerely appreciate how Dave Jewell, Jim Haler, Dave Ksycki, Martin 
Arroyo, and others have treated this group, but I hold out no special 
hope for the MS100, primarily because sound quality is not just a 
matter of increasing watts. Let's see what the market decides about 
the MS monitors. I think that we can be reasonably sure that members 
of this forum who have read what we've written will think twice about 
buying one of them--at least sight unseen (or its auditory 
equivalent). What we do here, even if modestly, is meant in part to 
ensure that people don't invest in products that fail to fulfill 
their promise. Extending the benefit of the doubt to products that do 
not get good reviews is difficult to do when much of what e-drummers 
buy comes from word of mouth or only sketchy experience in a store. 
Open minds with a dash of skepticism is prudent. And I invite any of 
Yamaha's staff who might peruse what we have to say from time to time 
to offer a dissenting view, or more information, about the monitors' 
sonic characteristics.

Ed

> > about the monitor- not at all ready to bash Yamaha.
> 
> Dan,
> 
> Gilligan didn't like it either, and you certainly had a better
> reaction to the PM-3. Frankly, I love Yamaha's products, and I
>
>  
>  Let's see what the market decides about 
> the MS monitors. I think that we can be reasonably sure that 
members 
> of this forum who have read what we've written will think twice 
about 
> buying one of them--at least sight unseen (or its auditory 
> equivalent). What we do here, even if modestly, is meant in part 
to 
> ensure that people don't invest in products that fail to fulfill 
> their promise. Extending the benefit of the doubt to products that 
do 
> not get good reviews is difficult to do when much of what e-
drummers 
> buy comes from word of mouth or only sketchy experience in a 
store. 
> Open minds with a dash of skepticism is prudent. And I invite any 
of 
> Yamaha's staff who might peruse what we have to say from time to 
time 
> to offer a dissenting view, or more information, about the 
monitors' 
> sonic characteristics.
> 
> Ed

I agree!
The fact that Riks refuses to sell the MS50 (due to complaints), but 
continues to sell the MS100 (citing few to no complaints)may offer 
hope.....then there's always...HEADPHONES!!! That will be my choice 
99% of the time, but I'm having a reunion of my old band members, 
and I just imagine having to pass the Hphones along so they can 
relish in these great sounding drums, ONE AT A TIME, while the 
others are subjected to the "dead frisbee" melodies!
I trust your members will take these reviews as intended-food for 
thought, and that Yamaha will "listen" enough to gain insight into 
what we nutball drummers feel we need. and for that, your forum 
is ..."priceless"
Dan

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(I missed some deletion)...rookie!

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by the idea of the DTXpress IV module to replace my DTXpress III.

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> 
> Sounds good.  Is that a built-in kit, unmodified?  I have been 
tempted
> by the idea of the DTXpress IV module to replace my DTXpress III.
> 
> Keith.
>
Hi Keith
That kit is one of the standard 50 kits...But as with the dtxpress 3
you can edit all the various bits & pieces. The dtxpress 4 really is
a great kit. Follow this link for some more of my solo/demos under
the name rontex in DTXpress III section..
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> Hi Keith
> That kit is one of the standard 50 kits...But as with the dtxpress 3
> you can edit all the various bits & pieces. The dtxpress 4 really is
> a great kit. Follow this link for some more of my solo/demos under
> the name rontex in DTXpress III section..
> http://www.dtxperience.com/forums/index.php?Cat=8
>

Thanks.  It sounds pretty good, although the toms seem a little
resonant, although that may be my computer speakers.  The kits sound
better "out of the box" than the DTXpress III.  For some reason Yamaha
decided to put loads of wacky kits on the III, most of which have no
practical use whatsoever.  The sounds are there, but you have to make
your own kits up from scratch.

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  Description : these are the settings I use for pintech pads on a DTX-III from the hope drums set-up video on utube - btw - I have the 100k pot upgrade on my bass drum. 

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  File        : /Pintech_rim_piezo_howtobend.pdf 
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  Description : diagram of the pintech rim piezo bend that must be made to install the new rim piezo in a concertcast drum  

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