Simply suggesting that Ken test with the 2200 rather than hopping in boots n all up front... :-) From: <Alan.Huntley@...> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:10:59 -0400 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [Digital BW] Epson install problem after ImagePrint Steve, First, IP can be purchased for $395 from Lexjet. Second, I somewhat disagree with your comments. I would agree that the color print image quality from IP is not phenomenally better than the Epson driver with good profiles and proper color mgmt techniques, but... In my testing of IP over the past week or so, I found the following: 1. I liked IP's handling of color better than the Epson driver; slightly less warmth and saturation in all colors, and I definitely preferred the color blue (sky, for example) in the IP print. The IP prints seemed to better match my memory of colors in the actual scene. This was my wife's opinion, too, as she was right there for many of the shots. Side-by-side, on the same paper put through the same printer, the Epson print looked ever so slightly garish. Also, I don't know how IP handles whites and near whites, but whispy clouds in my landscapes somehow looked more 3-dimensional and, at the same time, more translucent. Is it possible to make whispy clouds looks more whispy through software? 2. I really liked IP's handling of grayscale images. In natural room light the high values just seemed to glow and "jump out at ya"; similar to BO printing following Clayton's workflow and techniques. Additionally, I like the fact that I have many, many paper profiles available for quite a few papers that I might like to investigate. Less time playing with the process...more time making images! As my time to devote to photography is limited I enjoy a more "out of the box" solution. I know many have had problems with IP, but I experienced none of the reported issues. BTW, I used Roy's QuadToneRIP v1.1 some time ago with my Epson 1160. The print quality provided by Roy's software was great, but the Gimp drivers bring new meaning to the word: SLOW! Just my .02 cents............ Regards, Alan Huntley > > From: Steve Kale <stevekale@...> > Date: 2003/10/19 Sun PM 10:19:15 EDT > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson install problem after ImagePrint > > FYI I would not jump straight into purchasing IP at $495. I have found > minimal added image quality with the 2100/2200 and good colour profiles for > colour work and QTR (Mac only) is in my opinion better for B&W. Get the > 2200 and test again...2c > > > From: "Ken Carney" <kcarney1@...> > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:02:34 -0500 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Digital BW] Epson install problem after ImagePrint > > Would greatly appreciate any advice. I downloaded the ImagePrint demo, > liked it, thought I would get it and a new 2200. However...after installing > the demo, my beloved 1270 will only print in one tone with the Epson > software (the typical red cast), no matter whether the image sent to it is > cold tone, warm tone or what. I uninstalled the ImagePrint demo (not easy > to do), but still the same problem with the 1270. So I uninstalled the 1270 > as a printer and the Epson software. I tried to reinstall (the Epson XP > driver with both USB and parallel), but the Epson software will not > recognize the printer as installed, though it is installed. It will print > with the native XP drivers, but the Epson print software will get to > "installing your printer" and then hang. Thanks for any advice on this > exotic question. It's time to upgrade, but I would like to keep the 1270. > > Regards, > > --Ken Carney > www.kencarney.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=251812.4052765.5265175.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705019 > 182:HM/A=1754451/R=0/SIG=11tfoi6qi/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=6017 > 8323&partid=4052765> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and > other resources as they are often being updated. 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Re: [Digital BW] Epson install problem after ImagePrint
2003-10-20 by Steve Kale