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Re: Re: [Digital BW] Epson install problem after ImagePrint

2003-10-20 by Alan.Huntley@cox.net

I agree...definitely. I have been looking at IP since v5.0 came out, but would not, under any circumstances, make a purchase without trying it with my printer (2200) in my working environment.

Alan Huntley

> 
> From: Steve Kale <stevekale@...>
> Date: 2003/10/20 Mon PM 02:57:41 EDT
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson install problem after ImagePrint
> 
> Simply suggesting that Ken test with the 2200 rather than hopping in boots
> Œn all up front...
> 
> :-)
> 
> 
> From: <Alan.Huntley@...>
> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:10:59 -0400
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [Digital BW] Epson install problem after ImagePrint
> 
> Steve,
> 
> First, IP can be purchased for $395 from Lexjet. Second, I somewhat disagree
> with your comments. I would agree that the color print image quality from IP
> is not phenomenally better than the Epson driver with good profiles and
> proper color mgmt techniques, but...
> 
> In my testing of IP over the past week or so, I found the following:
> 
> 1. I liked IP's handling of color better than the Epson driver; slightly
> less warmth and saturation in all colors, and I definitely preferred the
> color blue (sky, for example) in the IP print. The IP prints seemed to
> better match my memory of colors in the actual scene. This was my wife's
> opinion, too, as she was right there for many of the shots. Side-by-side, on
> the same paper put through the same printer, the Epson print looked ever so
> slightly garish. Also, I don't know how IP handles whites and near whites,
> but whispy clouds in my landscapes somehow looked more 3-dimensional and, at
> the same time, more translucent. Is it possible to make whispy clouds looks
> more whispy through software?
> 
> 2. I really liked IP's handling of grayscale images. In natural room light
> the high values just seemed to glow and "jump out at ya"; similar to BO
> printing following Clayton's workflow and techniques.
> 
> Additionally, I like the fact that I have many, many paper profiles
> available for quite a few papers that I might like to investigate. Less time
> playing with the process...more time making images! As my time to devote to
> photography is limited I enjoy a more "out of the box" solution. I know many
> have had problems with IP, but I experienced none of the reported issues.
> 
> BTW, I used Roy's QuadToneRIP v1.1 some time ago with my Epson 1160. The
> print quality provided by Roy's software was great, but the Gimp drivers
> bring new meaning to the word: SLOW!
> 
> Just my .02 cents............
> 
> Regards,
> Alan Huntley
> 
> > 
> > From: Steve Kale <stevekale@...>
> > Date: 2003/10/19 Sun PM 10:19:15 EDT
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson install problem after ImagePrint
> > 
> > FYI I would not jump straight into purchasing IP at $495.  I have found
> > minimal added image quality with the 2100/2200 and good colour profiles for
> > colour work and QTR (Mac only) is in my opinion better for B&W.  Get the
> > 2200 and test again...2c
> > 
> > 
> > From: "Ken Carney" <kcarney1@...>
> > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:02:34 -0500
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Epson install problem after ImagePrint
> > 
> > Would greatly appreciate any advice.  I downloaded the ImagePrint demo,
> > liked it, thought I would get it and a new 2200.  However...after installing
> > the demo, my beloved 1270 will only print in one tone with the Epson
> > software (the typical red cast), no matter whether the image sent to it is
> > cold tone, warm tone or what.  I uninstalled the ImagePrint demo (not easy
> > to do), but still the same problem with the 1270.  So I uninstalled the 1270
> > as a printer and the Epson software.  I tried to reinstall (the Epson XP
> > driver with both USB and parallel), but the Epson software will not
> > recognize the printer as installed, though it is installed.  It will print
> > with the native XP drivers, but the Epson print software will get to
> > "installing your printer" and then hang.  Thanks for any advice on this
> > exotic question.  It's time to upgrade, but I would like to keep the 1270.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> >   --Ken Carney
> >     www.kencarney.com
> > 
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