Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Martin,
> 
> >I have not seen any HP output so far. I seem to recall that
> >someone posted that the example they saw was not very good.
> >Do you think their products will be of interest to serious users? ...
> 
> I have my doubts.  The dye solution for longevity is to use special paper.
> With, for example, cotton paper I've heard the life of the ink is very
> short.  I hope to get some samples and test it on both the special paper and
> cotton.
> 

I saw a B&W sample from the HP.  If you can put up with the special
paper and only letter size paper, print quality looks pretty nice.  
However when I was able to see it in different lighting it suffered from
quite a lot of metamerism.

....


> 
> The 1280 with the "no-workflow" inks is still flooding the paper and causing
> a blotchy/grainy image we have come to expect with un-coated paper, at least

I would think that some of the paper type selections in the Epson driver
would reduce the ink limits.

> when it's used with no curves.  However, the dmax on Hot Press is up to 1.46
> with Eboni -- getting close and probably fine for old photo reproductions.
> I'll try to work up some curves for this combination that attempt to hold
> back the light inks as much as possible to stop the paper flooding.
> However, Epson's built-in cross-overs might get in the way.  With a RIP it
> could probably be done.
> 
> At any rate, we are getting close to what I'd like to see -- carbon (or
> neutral-toned carbon) pigs on un-coated cotton paper.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com

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