Digital BW, The Print

i got two more boxes of costco swiss made paper tonight.....it does not 
say epson on the back.......it does work very well, thru all the ranges 
from darkest to lightest........it comes it boxes of 125 sheets, for 20 
dollars......they had a LOT of it too.....Doug M
On Nov 22, 2004, at 6:15 PM, Paul Roark wrote:

> Steve,
>
>  >...
>  > I guess the great paper chase goes on....
>
>  And it probably will continue for a long time.
>
>  Speaking of which, I've been printing different papers with the 
> little C86,
>  and one thing that struck me was that it was actually up to printing 
> an
>  essentially perfect "glossy" print -- something I've really not felt 
> the
>  other printers I have are up to.� The 2200 at 2880, with HS 
> un-checked is
>  close.� The 4000 samples I've seen are also very good, although, 
> oddly, do
>  not have a great dmax.
>
>  With the C86, the weakness is that the pizza wheel marks show in 
> solid black
>  areas with Premium Glossy paper.� But, they don't show with the 
> Premium
>  Semimatte.
>
>  With all Epson Premium papers the Epson UltraChrome Photo K gives a 
> much
>  better dmax than MIS's PK, at least with the C86.
>
>  So, the combination that looks the best to me with the C86 is UC PK 
> with MIS
>  EZ-N on Premium Semimatte.� Under glass, as it would be as a display 
> print,
>  I think it looks so much better than the matte papers that I suspect 
> it will
>  be a top paper for this use.� And it has a Wilhelm ">200 year" paper 
> life
>  rating, which is the same rating Wilhelm gives cotton papers.� In 
> fade tests
>  the Semigloss was about as good as the UltraSmooth.� Neither have 
> OBAs.��
>
>  In short, the combination of Premium Semimatte, UC PK, MIS EZ-N, & 
> C86 makes
>  arguably the best looking prints I've seen.
>
>  Paul
>  www.PaulRoark.com
>
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Steven Karafyllakis [mailto:steve@...]
>  Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 5:10 PM
>  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Costco paper... be careful!
>
>
>
>  � I have no idea, Paul, I was obviously thinking of the Japanese
>  Epson papers in general. Mitsubishi makes a wide range of papers for
>  a lot of outlets, and many of them are first rate. I wouldn't mind
>  testing a few, I'm not entirely happy with EEM for one. It does
>  print well, but why waste ink and effort on a paper that can yellow
>  in as little as a few months under the right (wrong?) conditions? I
>  guess the great paper chase goes on....
>
>  Steve
>
>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
>  <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
>  > I was thinking of the "Made is Switzerland" version of the paper.�
>  Does
>  > Mitsubishi have a plant there?
>  >
>  > Paul
>  > www.PaulRoark.com
>  >
>  > ________________________________________
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Steven Karafyllakis [mailto:steve@s...]
>  > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 12:55 PM
>  > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>  > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Costco paper... be careful!
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > .
>  > >
>  > > Ilford could well be the source of some Epson paper.
>  > >
>  > > Paul
>  > > www.PaulRoark.com
>  > > ______________________________
>  > >
>  > It's just as likely to be a Mitsubishi product, isn't it?
>  >
>  > Steve K
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