Digital BW, The Print

That's a good idea.

Something else while we're on the subject of Kirkland.

I'm bothered my a lot of people saying that this paper is 
manufactured by Ilford.

That just doesn't make sense to me.

From my understanding, Ilford doesn't sell any paper that even come 
close to the quality of this paper. Ilford, to my knowledge, doesn't 
sell an acid-free, buffered paper.

I think the best Ilford apaer are only good for about 20 yrs., max.

Last year a very talented professional photographer showed me a 
beautiful color portrait on Ilford paper. He even admitted it would 
only last about 10 yrs. It was printed on an Epson 1280.

If anyone knows for sure that Kirkland paper is made by Ilford, I'd 
like to know.

I want to contact Ilford about having it made and in other sizes, too.
Also, I understand it's great for color work (although, I'm mainly 
interested in B&W)

Scott


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "awahlster" 
<awahlster@a...> wrote:
> 
> Scot a suggestion if you buy more then one box try a few sheets 
pread
> throughout the stack to see if there is any problem that way you
> aren't trying to return something weeks after you bought it.
> 
> Also the young lady said she would tag a note on the return report 
as
> to why it was being returned she said that Costco because they are
> basically suppilers to businesses they really take product quality 
to
> heart especially when it is theor house brand.
> 
> Mark W.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> "scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > I'm expecting my bulk ink to arrive by Monday.
> > 
> > I plan on filling carts, installing them in the printer, running 
a 
> > few nozzel checks and the letting it sit for while I run to 
Costco to 
> > buy some KG.
> > 
> > I report my opinion after I make a print or two.
> > 
> > I'm ver excited towards the prospects of this paper.
> > 
> > Scott
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "awahlster" 
> > <awahlster@a...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Scott none of the paper has had any logo on the back.
> > > 
> > > the two boxes I bought yesterday were from the same lot number
> > > (printed on the back of the box) One package has so far been 
fine
> > > (made about 6 prints from it) the other at least the first 20 
pieces
> > > showed the problem faint line.
> > > 
> > > The second box while being on the same pallet (not knowing if it
> > > arrived that way or not) Has a different lot number. This box
> > > purchased as an exchange today has so far been perfect except 
the 
> > top
> > > sheet had some little spots on it I didn't use it all others 
have 
> > been
> > > perfect.
> > > 
> > > At this time I'm basically happy with the product I'm willing to
> > > accept that there may be some quality issues but Costco has no 
> > problem
> > > exchanging it so While it would be a problem if I was selling 
prints
> > > on some schedual. But as I'm just doing this for fun.
> > > 
> > > Mark W.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@y...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So, you have the "Swiss" paper WITHOUT the Epson logo on the 
back 
> > of 
> > > > the paper?
> > > > 
> > > > What about the box you returned?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > 
> > > > Scott
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "awahlster" 
> > > > <awahlster@a...> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well, After the girl got done WOWing at the sample photo's 
I 
> > took in
> > > > > she made up a credit slip/card and I bought a new package I 
> > looked
> > > > > through the pallet and bought from a different lot number I 
am 
> > about
> > > > > to do some test prints to see if this one has an problems.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But they were real good about the return even thogh I had 
used 
> > at
> > > > > least 20 sht's..
> > > > > 
> > > > > Mark W.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > "scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Glad you found the problem.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Please let us know what happens concerning returning the 
> > paper to 
> > > > > > Costco.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In 
> > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "awahlster" 
> > > > > > <awahlster@a...> wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Well, As the story continues our young hero discovers 
the 
> > > > problem 
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > the amazingly cheap and pretty KirkLand Photo paper is 
in 
> > fact 
> > > > THE
> > > > > > > PAPER I know this is totally shocking but the evidence 
is 
> > over
> > > > > > > wellming (is that a word??) 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Anyway to stop being silly I tried the second package 
of 
> > paper
> > > > > > > printing from one box after the other same scanned 
slide 
> > done 
> > > > this
> > > > > > > morning and there is no doubt the light streak on my 
first 
> > > > prints 
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > to be due to a flaw in the paper.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Well now shall we see if out local Costco will reurn 
> > defective 
> > > > Photo
> > > > > > > paper????
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hmmm this could be interesting..
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The second box of paper is totally beautiful.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Mark W.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
> > > > claudej1@a... 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > I just printed about 1,400 sheets of this stuff in 
> > December, 
> > > > and
> > > > > > > yes, once in 
> > > > > > > > a while I got some lines in it.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I had to print FAST, so I printed at 720 PPI with HS 
> > checked 
> > > > in 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > driver. I 
> > > > > > > > had some sheets that did this and most didnt'. I 
believe 
> > this 
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > be some 
> > > > > > > > manufacturing defects. However, since this paper is 
1/5 
> > the 
> > > > price 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > most 
> > > > > > > > glossy papers out there, I don't worry about throwing 
> > away a 
> > > > few
> > > > > > > sheets here and 
> > > > > > > > there. Minor stuff.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Claude
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
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