Digital BW, The Print

This same topic comes up with about the same level of repetition.  I  
agree with the statement that printing is a craft (but that wasn't  
the original comment that sparked the conversation).  This list then  
is about craft not art and hence intricately entwined with  
conversations about technique, equipment and materials.  However, I  
still refute the notion that having a good understanding of these  
items is a basic need of an artist.  You can't make a photo (to  
outsource a print) if you can't operate your camera.  If you want end- 
to-end control over the expression of your vision, and you intend to  
exhibit a print, then understanding printing techniques, equipment  
and materials is beneficial also.


On 11 Feb 2008, at 00:34, Robert W Shearer wrote:

> Yes, the best analysis so far. This seems to be a bit of a touchy  
> subject.
> This looks like a new addition to the Windows/Apple, Nikon/Canon,  
> Life v
> Death hardcore issues. Did not know that I was going there!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of  
> Gary
> Weaver
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 6:59 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson Exhibition Fiber - A Review
>
> I half disagree. Printing is a craft. Creating the image is the art.
>
> gar
>
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> On 2/10/08 at 2:10 PM CorrPro96@... wrote:
>
> >I have to disagree.
> >Photography has always been about the craft first, the art second  
> and the
> >technical in terms of feasibility... whether or not it is possible.
> >Digital has provided the technology that has enabled the craft and  
> the art
> >
> >to reach into areas beyond photography, using the photographic  
> processes.
> >
> >Richard Massie
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 2/10/2008 1:58:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >nemophoto@... writes:
> >
> >. Photography
> >has always been about the technical, we just never called it that,
> >because computers weren't involved.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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