Alan, I couldn¹t agree with you more. I am quite impressed and pleased with the performance of my 3800 both for b/w and color. I still have my 2200 and 1270....I have been toying with the idea of converting the 2200 for one of the dedicated b/w ink systems but not sure that¹s necessary with what I am seeing from the 3800 in ABW. Also fully support the idea of keeping the attorney¹s away. Paul Grant Menlo Park, CA On 5/11/08 4:40 PM, "alankushnir" <akushnir@...> wrote: > > > > I have been making superb BW prints with the 3800 since I received it. > I do not have feed problems even with large paper. The only thing I > had to pay attention to was the gap width, which needed to be wider to > avoid head strikes. The canned profiles work well for me. I have used > variety of papers, > both Espon and Hanemuhle. > While I feel a similar sense of outrage when a technical product I > purchase doesn't work the way I think it should, market forces usually > set these problems straight. Your experience with the 3800 is > not representative i.e, you imply there is a defect in the design of > the printer. There would be far more complaints such as yours on this > and other lists if that were the case. To the responder that sounded > worried about their recent purchase, you can take heart: the 3800 is > fantastic. Another responder suggests a class action suit. To believe > that we must > sue when things don't turn out the way we want > has mostly had the effect of enriching certain lawyers, and usually not > effectively protecting the rights of consumers. > Alan Kushnir > Woodside Ca > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , "digikdm" > <monroekd@...> wrote: >> > >> > I have been printing with my new Epson 3800 for about 1 month, and I >> > am a bit dismayed that the B&W prints I'm getting using the intrinsic >> > Epson driver (with or without third party profiles provided by Eric >> > Chan) are inferior to the B&W prints I get using ImagePrint with my >> > Epson 2200 printer. Admittedly, the prints are far superior to the >> > intrinsic Epson driver for the 2200, but I would have thought that >> > after 3-4 years of R&D, you guys would have figured out why ImagePrint >> > is so superior to your driver. Also I have found that the color >> > profiles provided in the driver vary in their quality. You guys are >> > apparently aware of this situation, since you are offering the Bill >> > Atkinson 7600/9600 profiles on your website and state that "in most >> > cases, these custom ICC profiles will provide much better color and >> > black and white print quality than with the standard profiles already >> > shipping with every printer". I don't understand why it is so >> > difficult for a company that is totally devoted to printing to create >> > the best possible canned profiles for their own printers and papers. >> > You would likely prevent numerous defectors to third party papers, if >> > you created the best possible profiles for your own papers. If one >> > spends >$1000 for a printer, they should not then have to scour the >> > internet for profiles or third party drivers to get the best possible >> > prints. The Bill Atkinson profiles do not work well for the 3800, and >> > thus the 3800 users are left out in the cold for accurate color > profiles. >> > I have also found it confusing that you have discontinued Epson >> > Enhanced matte and Archival Matte >> > papers and yet these profiles are still in the driver software. If the >> > Ultrapremium presentation matte is the same as Ep Enhanced which I >> > thought was the same as Archival matte, then why are there separate >> > profiles in the driver for Enhanced matte and Archival matte? 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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Letter to Epson
2008-05-12 by Photograph