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Re: [Digital BW] R1800/3mk failure (Ugh)

2008-10-22 by Gary Weaver

It just dawned on me that I think I've seen some of your work online. Lot's of great BLACK areas - family??

I would 3x5 card the seperate problems and work your way through them one at a time.

gar

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On 10/21/2008 at 10:38 PM Sarah Renkes wrote:

>Colin, don't apologize. I am thankful to be hearing frm those of you that
>have had issues 
>with this printer, because before I decided to get one (it is used, no
>warranty), I read only 
>glowing reports about them, in specific reference to the 3Mk method of
>printing. There 
>wasn't anything negative on the board here that would have made me pause.
>Your report 
>is certainly not a good one by a long shot...so sorry!
>
>If only i had done more homework on other forums, I would have read the
>countless 
>frustrated pleas from others trying to solve the very same problems I'm
>having with 
>it....and I would have re-thought my choice. That said, however, I
>absolutely love the look 
>of the 3MK print I did manage to squeak out, so it is all doubly maddening.
>
>I have gone through an entire set of color inks already, but have only
>made ONE print, and 
>a 3MK one at that. My paper feed probelms mean that I have to keep
>shutting off the 
>printer to get the red paper light to stop flashing....just deleting the
>print job will not 
>suffice. So, every time I try to feed paper through the front loader and
>it fails, the red light 
>goes on, and won't go off or let me attempt another print job until I shut
>the printer off. Anyone know how to reset this differently?  I am on a mac
>so the  SSC utility is not an 
>option for me, unfortunately.
>
>I have dashed to Staples three times now when the ink has run out in a
>color position, 
>which prevents me from printing or even loading paper. It is AWFUL. I
>called an Epson tech 
>and he confirmed that all operation stops when any of the cartridges are
>out (or READ as 
>out, since I know they still have ink in them!). My 2200 would let me
>print BO even if a 
>color ink showed empty. Not this one.
>
>I do intend to purchase a refilling kit to at least fill the Eboni carts
>myself. Other than that 
>I may just lay my head down on the desk and have a good cry. And begin the
>saving 
>process all over again for another printer. I waited a year before being
>able to purchase 
>this one. 
>
>"Diappointed' hardly covers it.
>
>thanks all,
>Sarah
>
>
>
>
>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "colingruk"
><ColinJConway@...> 
>wrote:
>>
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah Renkes" 
>> <sagaface@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Darn it. I'm not filling these carts myself. This my first set and 
>> I bought them already filled 
>> > from MIS. I don't have the equipment to do what you have suggested.
>> > 
>> > yikes. this is turning into a bit of a nightmare. I have someone 
>> waiting for a print and I'm 
>> > completely stuck.
>> 
>>   Sarah
>> 
>> I am going to start by apologizing: you probably won't like what I 
>> am about to write.  I have been having the same problems that you 
>> describe since I bought my r1800.  I have been throwing good money 
>> after bad.  It is a daytime nightmare. I suggest you dispose of the 
>> printer and buy something else.
>> 
>> First I used carts from MIS and now I have a continuous flow 
>> system.  I use Eboni in the Y, MK and PK slots and PKN in the R, B 
>> and C slots.  I seldom get all working properly but sometimes I can 
>> use either the Eboni or PKN inks.  
>> 
>> The cleaning cycle Epson has on this machine is aggressive.  It 
>> creates bubbles in the cart and the ink does not flow.  I do not 
>> think I have particulate clogs.  I suspect the use of this 
>> aggressive cleaning system was a matter of Epson policy to increase 
>> its ink sales.  I think more ink has been through the waste outlet 
>> onto the pads than onto paper.  I have had to have the counter reset 
>> and the soak pads changed at a cost of £125 cUS$220.
>> 
>> I have used a syringe to draw out the ink through the cart exit. 
>> (see the post above).  I no longer switch off the machine because, 
>> when you switch on, those lovely people at Epson designed the 
>> machine to do a head clean.  Someone once told me that, at the close 
>> of business each working day, top Epson Executives in Japan roll 
>> about on the floor laughing at the money they are making from their 
>> inks.
>> 
>> Before that change, using the Epson maintenance routine, I was back 
>> to a nearly white piece of paper after doing the nozzle checks.
>> 
>> This morning I ran the SSC utility.  I wonder if it is less 
>> aggressive than the Epson one or if I am deluding myself.  I 
>> started, would you believe with perfect nozzle checks in the MK and 
>> PK positions.  I printed a half page of the purge file from MIS.  
>> Ran the SSC cleaning cycle and had perfect nozzle checks for the B, 
>> PK, MK, and C positions.  In both cases ink was flowing in the other 
>> channels but there were about 10% gaps.  I printed a half purge page 
>> again, and went to walk the dog – yes, the dog not the printer.  The 
>> printer is lucky I don't kick dogs!
>> 
>> I ran another SSC cleaning cycle and nozzle check.  The Y, M and C 
>> channels were perfect but ink from the MK and PK nozzles only fired 
>> through about 10% of the nozzles. No ink flowed at all  through the 
>> R and B carts.  Go figure!
>> 
>> I will wait three hours and try again.
>> 
>> Colin
>>
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