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Re: [Digital BW] R1800/3mk failure (Ugh)

2008-10-22 by Sarah Renkes

Gar, that sounds like my stuff, though the photos I think you are referring to are set-up 
scenes with friends and strangers, no family in them. My website is down for the moment 
while I make some changes.

I am doing quite a bit of color work now and was hoping to use the r1800 for that as well, 
but honestly don't think I am up to the other problems that would most likely add to the 
list.  Will most likely use cleaning carts with Carbon-6 base in them as Denis suggested 
and call it a day.

3x5 cards are a good idea. I'd better get a big stack ~sigh~

thanks!
Sarah




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Weaver" <garww@...> 
wrote:
>
> It just dawned on me that I think I've seen some of your work online. Lot's of great 
BLACK areas - family??
> 
> I would 3x5 card the seperate problems and work your way through them one at a time.
> 
> gar
> 
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> 
> On 10/21/2008 at 10:38 PM Sarah Renkes wrote:
> 
> >Colin, don't apologize. I am thankful to be hearing frm those of you that
> >have had issues 
> >with this printer, because before I decided to get one (it is used, no
> >warranty), I read only 
> >glowing reports about them, in specific reference to the 3Mk method of
> >printing. There 
> >wasn't anything negative on the board here that would have made me pause.
> >Your report 
> >is certainly not a good one by a long shot...so sorry!
> >
> >If only i had done more homework on other forums, I would have read the
> >countless 
> >frustrated pleas from others trying to solve the very same problems I'm
> >having with 
> >it....and I would have re-thought my choice. That said, however, I
> >absolutely love the look 
> >of the 3MK print I did manage to squeak out, so it is all doubly maddening.
> >
> >I have gone through an entire set of color inks already, but have only
> >made ONE print, and 
> >a 3MK one at that. My paper feed probelms mean that I have to keep
> >shutting off the 
> >printer to get the red paper light to stop flashing....just deleting the
> >print job will not 
> >suffice. So, every time I try to feed paper through the front loader and
> >it fails, the red light 
> >goes on, and won't go off or let me attempt another print job until I shut
> >the printer off. Anyone know how to reset this differently?  I am on a mac
> >so the  SSC utility is not an 
> >option for me, unfortunately.
> >
> >I have dashed to Staples three times now when the ink has run out in a
> >color position, 
> >which prevents me from printing or even loading paper. It is AWFUL. I
> >called an Epson tech 
> >and he confirmed that all operation stops when any of the cartridges are
> >out (or READ as 
> >out, since I know they still have ink in them!). My 2200 would let me
> >print BO even if a 
> >color ink showed empty. Not this one.
> >
> >I do intend to purchase a refilling kit to at least fill the Eboni carts
> >myself. Other than that 
> >I may just lay my head down on the desk and have a good cry. And begin the
> >saving 
> >process all over again for another printer. I waited a year before being
> >able to purchase 
> >this one. 
> >
> >"Diappointed' hardly covers it.
> >
> >thanks all,
> >Sarah
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "colingruk"
> ><ColinJConway@> 
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah Renkes" 
> >> <sagaface@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Darn it. I'm not filling these carts myself. This my first set and 
> >> I bought them already filled 
> >> > from MIS. I don't have the equipment to do what you have suggested.
> >> > 
> >> > yikes. this is turning into a bit of a nightmare. I have someone 
> >> waiting for a print and I'm 
> >> > completely stuck.
> >> 
> >>   Sarah
> >> 
> >> I am going to start by apologizing: you probably won't like what I 
> >> am about to write.  I have been having the same problems that you 
> >> describe since I bought my r1800.  I have been throwing good money 
> >> after bad.  It is a daytime nightmare. I suggest you dispose of the 
> >> printer and buy something else.
> >> 
> >> First I used carts from MIS and now I have a continuous flow 
> >> system.  I use Eboni in the Y, MK and PK slots and PKN in the R, B 
> >> and C slots.  I seldom get all working properly but sometimes I can 
> >> use either the Eboni or PKN inks.  
> >> 
> >> The cleaning cycle Epson has on this machine is aggressive.  It 
> >> creates bubbles in the cart and the ink does not flow.  I do not 
> >> think I have particulate clogs.  I suspect the use of this 
> >> aggressive cleaning system was a matter of Epson policy to increase 
> >> its ink sales.  I think more ink has been through the waste outlet 
> >> onto the pads than onto paper.  I have had to have the counter reset 
> >> and the soak pads changed at a cost of £125 cUS$220.
> >> 
> >> I have used a syringe to draw out the ink through the cart exit. 
> >> (see the post above).  I no longer switch off the machine because, 
> >> when you switch on, those lovely people at Epson designed the 
> >> machine to do a head clean.  Someone once told me that, at the close 
> >> of business each working day, top Epson Executives in Japan roll 
> >> about on the floor laughing at the money they are making from their 
> >> inks.
> >> 
> >> Before that change, using the Epson maintenance routine, I was back 
> >> to a nearly white piece of paper after doing the nozzle checks.
> >> 
> >> This morning I ran the SSC utility.  I wonder if it is less 
> >> aggressive than the Epson one or if I am deluding myself.  I 
> >> started, would you believe with perfect nozzle checks in the MK and 
> >> PK positions.  I printed a half page of the purge file from MIS.  
> >> Ran the SSC cleaning cycle and had perfect nozzle checks for the B, 
> >> PK, MK, and C positions.  In both cases ink was flowing in the other 
> >> channels but there were about 10% gaps.  I printed a half purge page 
> >> again, and went to walk the dog – yes, the dog not the printer.  The 
> >> printer is lucky I don't kick dogs!
> >> 
> >> I ran another SSC cleaning cycle and nozzle check.  The Y, M and C 
> >> channels were perfect but ink from the MK and PK nozzles only fired 
> >> through about 10% of the nozzles. No ink flowed at all  through the 
> >> R and B carts.  Go figure!
> >> 
> >> I will wait three hours and try again.
> >> 
> >> Colin
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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