Thanks very much, David ! That explains it all. Now to measure 729 little squares…. ----------------------------------------------------- Brian Corll 1002 East Simpson Street Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 Tel.: (717) 691-0286 From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cdtobie Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:14 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Profiling with Dedicated B&W Inks When the printer manages color it's still doing a conversion, so can still use a rendering intent. When there is no color conversion (as when a target is printed), there can be no intent used either. C. D. Tobie WW Product Technology Mngr. Digital Imaging & Home Theater DataColor.com CDTobie@DataColor.com <mailto:CDTobie%40DataColor.com> On Dec 11, 2008, at 6:49 PM, "Brian Corll" <briancorll@... <mailto:briancorll%40comcast.net> > wrote: > OK – but when I’m printing from Photoshop and letting the printer > manage the colors (no color management checked in the printer driver > of course) I still have the option to select a rendering intent. Do > the intents matter ? I see minor differences when I switch intents > …. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Brian Corll > > 1002 East Simpson Street > > Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 > > Tel.: (717) 691-0286 > > > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> > ] On Behalf Of Cdtobie > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:35 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Profiling with Dedicated B&W Inks > > > > Targets aren't printed from a colorspace; they are printed raw, > defining the printer's native space. Since there is no conversion, the > target prints the same from sRGB or aRGB. > > C. D. Tobie > WW Product Technology Mngr. > Digital Imaging & Home Theater > DataColor.com > CDTobie@... <mailto:CDTobie%40DataColor.com> <mailto:CDTobie%40DataColor.com> > > On Dec 11, 2008, at 4:25 PM, "Brian Corll" <briancorll@... <mailto:briancorll%40comcast.net> <mailto:briancorll > %40comcast.net> > > wrote: > >> And does it matter if I print the targets with the Adobe RGB color >> space >> instead of sRGB if I'm always printing with Adobe RGB ? I don't see >> why it >> should. >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> >> Brian Corll >> >> >> >> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >> %40yahoogroups.com> >> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >> %40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of >> cdtobie >> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:40 PM >> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >> %40yahoogroups.com> >> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Profiling with Dedicated B&W Inks >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 11, 2008, at 3:36:48 PM, "Brian Corll" >> <briancorll@... <mailto:briancorll%40comcast.net> <mailto:briancorll%40comcast.net> >> <mailto:briancorll%40comcast.net> > >> wrote: >> >> Hmmm.I thought I had all my ducks in a row, but I may have goofed >> somewhere. >> I'll try it again and see how it goes. Thanks, David. >> ___ >> Another thought, is that for the 2200 you may want to uncheck the >> Absolute Grays checkbox, and see if you prefer the gray balance with >> Paper Relative Grays instead. >> -- >> C. 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RE: [Digital BW] Profiling with Dedicated B&W Inks
2008-12-12 by Brian Corll