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QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in ink 5 Light cyan

QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in ink 5 Light cyan

2012-04-25 by chen.benedict

Help!

My brand new 1390 (Asian version of 1400) printer has problems with one of the ink slot. 

Using the QTR calibration mode I have botchy inks for the Light cyan. 

Picture here:
http://s627.photobucket.com/albums/tt360/beneAlpha/?action=view¤t=weird-1.jpg

Is this due to clogged print head of just plain faulty? 
This is kind of strange as its a new printer. 

Also does the Light cyan denoted by QTR the same as Light Cyan cart in printer?

I'm still learning so I will try calibration by excluding LC first.

Thanks in Advance!

Re: QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in ink 5 Light cyan

2012-04-25 by Paul

"chen.benedict" <benedictchen22@...> wrote:
>

> My brand new 1390 (Asian version of 1400) printer has problems with one of the ink slot. 
> 
> Using the QTR calibration mode I have botchy inks for the Light cyan. 
> 
> Picture here:
> http://s627.photobucket.com/albums/tt360/beneAlpha/?action=view¤t=weird-1.jpg


Did you get a perfect nozzle check first?

Are these the original Epson inks?  If you make a warranty claim they will ask that and ask for the serial numbers of the ink cartridges.  (At least that is the practice in the US.)


My memory is that the Epson carts have an air inlet at the bottom of the cart that has a tab covering it.  That tab must be removed.  (I don't use many Epson OEM carts, so I may be wrong on this.)  

The image you showed looked like more than the usual foam in the ink problem that can happen with third party inks or refilling.  Foam is not clogging and will dissipate if the printer is just left alone for a while.  It usually shows up as random gaps in the nozzle check.

An air bubble in the outlet might cause the problem.  I would not expect that with new OEM carts.  Their vacuum filling is rather good.

> ...
> Also does the Light cyan denoted by QTR the same as Light Cyan cart in printer?


Yes.

Good luck with the printer.  You may have a defective unit -- assuming the inks were new Epson inks that you were testing with.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Re: QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in ink 5 Light cyan

2012-04-25 by chen.benedict

Hi Paul,

Yes I got perfect nozzle checks. 
3rd party ink, Eboni 6.
Air bubbles makes sense.

I'll try a calibration test again in a couple of days. 

Thanks!
 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:
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> "chen.benedict" <benedictchen22@> wrote:
> >
> 
> > My brand new 1390 (Asian version of 1400) printer has problems with one of the ink slot. 
> > 
> > Using the QTR calibration mode I have botchy inks for the Light cyan. 
> > 
> > Picture here:
> > http://s627.photobucket.com/albums/tt360/beneAlpha/?action=view¤t=weird-1.jpg
> 
> 
> Did you get a perfect nozzle check first?
> 
> Are these the original Epson inks?  If you make a warranty claim they will ask that and ask for the serial numbers of the ink cartridges.  (At least that is the practice in the US.)
> 
> 
> My memory is that the Epson carts have an air inlet at the bottom of the cart that has a tab covering it.  That tab must be removed.  (I don't use many Epson OEM carts, so I may be wrong on this.)  
> 
> The image you showed looked like more than the usual foam in the ink problem that can happen with third party inks or refilling.  Foam is not clogging and will dissipate if the printer is just left alone for a while.  It usually shows up as random gaps in the nozzle check.
> 
> An air bubble in the outlet might cause the problem.  I would not expect that with new OEM carts.  Their vacuum filling is rather good.
> 
> > ...
> > Also does the Light cyan denoted by QTR the same as Light Cyan cart in printer?
> 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Good luck with the printer.  You may have a defective unit -- assuming the inks were new Epson inks that you were testing with.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

Re: QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in ink 5 Light cyan

2012-04-27 by chen.benedict

Hi Paul I did a new print and got this result 

http://s627.photobucket.com/albums/tt360/beneAlpha/?action=view¤t=L1010200.jpg

It seems the top edge is dark that spreads down. Is this likely to be the the Air bubble problem? 


  




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "chen.benedict" <benedictchen22@...> wrote:
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> Hi Paul,
> 
> Yes I got perfect nozzle checks. 
> 3rd party ink, Eboni 6.
> Air bubbles makes sense.
> 
> I'll try a calibration test again in a couple of days. 
> 
> Thanks!
>  
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@> wrote:
> >
> > "chen.benedict" <benedictchen22@> wrote:
> > >
> > 
> > > My brand new 1390 (Asian version of 1400) printer has problems with one of the ink slot. 
> > > 
> > > Using the QTR calibration mode I have botchy inks for the Light cyan. 
> > > 
> > > Picture here:
> > > http://s627.photobucket.com/albums/tt360/beneAlpha/?action=view¤t=weird-1.jpg
> > 
> > 
> > Did you get a perfect nozzle check first?
> > 
> > Are these the original Epson inks?  If you make a warranty claim they will ask that and ask for the serial numbers of the ink cartridges.  (At least that is the practice in the US.)
> > 
> > 
> > My memory is that the Epson carts have an air inlet at the bottom of the cart that has a tab covering it.  That tab must be removed.  (I don't use many Epson OEM carts, so I may be wrong on this.)  
> > 
> > The image you showed looked like more than the usual foam in the ink problem that can happen with third party inks or refilling.  Foam is not clogging and will dissipate if the printer is just left alone for a while.  It usually shows up as random gaps in the nozzle check.
> > 
> > An air bubble in the outlet might cause the problem.  I would not expect that with new OEM carts.  Their vacuum filling is rather good.
> > 
> > > ...
> > > Also does the Light cyan denoted by QTR the same as Light Cyan cart in printer?
> > 
> > 
> > Yes.
> > 
> > Good luck with the printer.  You may have a defective unit -- assuming the inks were new Epson inks that you were testing with.
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
>

Re: QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in ink 5 Light cyan

2012-04-28 by chen.benedict

Hi Paul I'm still getting the same problem with the LC 
it seems there is a pattern in the calibration print 

http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt360/beneAlpha/L1010200.jpg

Totally lost on this.
Thanks in advance




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:
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>
> "chen.benedict" <benedictchen22@> wrote:
> >
> 
> > My brand new 1390 (Asian version of 1400) printer has problems with one of the ink slot. 
> > 
> > Using the QTR calibration mode I have botchy inks for the Light cyan. 
> > 
> > Picture here:
> > http://s627.photobucket.com/albums/tt360/beneAlpha/?action=view¤t=weird-1.jpg
> 
> 
> Did you get a perfect nozzle check first?
> 
> Are these the original Epson inks?  If you make a warranty claim they will ask that and ask for the serial numbers of the ink cartridges.  (At least that is the practice in the US.)
> 
> 
> My memory is that the Epson carts have an air inlet at the bottom of the cart that has a tab covering it.  That tab must be removed.  (I don't use many Epson OEM carts, so I may be wrong on this.)  
> 
> The image you showed looked like more than the usual foam in the ink problem that can happen with third party inks or refilling.  Foam is not clogging and will dissipate if the printer is just left alone for a while.  It usually shows up as random gaps in the nozzle check.
> 
> An air bubble in the outlet might cause the problem.  I would not expect that with new OEM carts.  Their vacuum filling is rather good.
> 
> > ...
> > Also does the Light cyan denoted by QTR the same as Light Cyan cart in printer?
> 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Good luck with the printer.  You may have a defective unit -- assuming the inks were new Epson inks that you were testing with.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

Re: QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in ink 5 Light cyan

2012-04-28 by Paul

"chen.benedict" <benedictchen22@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul I'm still getting the same problem with the LC 
> it seems there is a pattern in the calibration print 
...

It does look like the calibration print might itself be corrupted. Try printing a 21-step test print with a curve that is simply LC with a straight line (0,0) to (100,100) curve.  Use those end points in the Curve Creator LC, "Load curve" mode.  One option in that mode is to define the curve with points.  See the "Point List" tab after you push the "Curve" button that appears when "Load Curve" is selected for LC.

I use these straight line curves regularly for lots of purposes.  It's good to know how to make them.

(I'm PC.  I don't know how Mac users go all this.)

At any rate, using a clean 21-step test file and a straight line LC curve will let you see if the Calibration Mode print has become corrupted and needs to be replaced.

You could also open the inkseparation6.tif file in the "bin" folder of QTR and see of that pattern in on that file.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Re: QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in ink 5 Light cyan

2012-04-28 by chen.benedict

It isn't the fault of the driver or file it happens in other test pages my guess its that my printer head for LC is just bad when I got it. I don't think I get them to change the print head. 


WOuld it be possible to work with just 5 ink slots? must I change the order of ink? 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:
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>
> "chen.benedict" <benedictchen22@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Paul I'm still getting the same problem with the LC 
> > it seems there is a pattern in the calibration print 
> ...
> 
> It does look like the calibration print might itself be corrupted. Try printing a 21-step test print with a curve that is simply LC with a straight line (0,0) to (100,100) curve.  Use those end points in the Curve Creator LC, "Load curve" mode.  One option in that mode is to define the curve with points.  See the "Point List" tab after you push the "Curve" button that appears when "Load Curve" is selected for LC.
> 
> I use these straight line curves regularly for lots of purposes.  It's good to know how to make them.
> 
> (I'm PC.  I don't know how Mac users go all this.)
> 
> At any rate, using a clean 21-step test file and a straight line LC curve will let you see if the Calibration Mode print has become corrupted and needs to be replaced.
> 
> You could also open the inkseparation6.tif file in the "bin" folder of QTR and see of that pattern in on that file.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

Re: QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in ink 5 Light cyan

2012-04-29 by Paul

"chen.benedict" <benedictchen22@...> wrote:
>
> ... my guess its that my printer head for LC is just bad when I got it. I don't think I get them to change the print head. 


If it is a new unit I'd make a warranty claim -- send it back for a new one.  In the US Epson is very good about that.  (Then they resell them on the "refurb" market.)

> WOuld it be possible to work with just 5 ink slots?

If you use QTR it's easy to use just 5 inks, and Eboni-5 works fine.  I have a fair number of Eboni-4 (Y [2%}, LM [6%], M [18%] and K) QTR profiles in the Zip file.

> must I change the order of ink? 

Not really.  I often used the LC-C spots for cool glossy inks.  In fact, you could just put some generic base in the LC spot and ignore it.  Then use the C spot for a cool toner if you wanted that option.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Re: QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in ink 5 Light cyan

2012-04-30 by chen.benedict

Thanks Paul, 

Unfortunately am not in the US and dealing with the refunds here is too troublesome. 

I got the print and matching with monitor to satisfactory levels. 

Will be experimenting with Arches next.



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> "chen.benedict" <benedictchen22@> wrote:
> >
> > ... my guess its that my printer head for LC is just bad when I got it. I don't think I get them to change the print head. 
> 
> 
> If it is a new unit I'd make a warranty claim -- send it back for a new one.  In the US Epson is very good about that.  (Then they resell them on the "refurb" market.)
> 
> > WOuld it be possible to work with just 5 ink slots?
> 
> If you use QTR it's easy to use just 5 inks, and Eboni-5 works fine.  I have a fair number of Eboni-4 (Y [2%}, LM [6%], M [18%] and K) QTR profiles in the Zip file.
> 
> > must I change the order of ink? 
> 
> Not really.  I often used the LC-C spots for cool glossy inks.  In fact, you could just put some generic base in the LC spot and ignore it.  Then use the C spot for a cool toner if you wanted that option.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

Re: QTR calibration mode of Epson 1390/ 1400 - weird artifacts in ink 5 Light cyan

2012-05-19 by chen.benedict

The Artifact started affecting the Yellow....This gave rise to some real print problems... and posterization....

 I decided to get a refund or repair. I really got a lemon... 

I flushed out the eboni with Mis cleaning fluid and ran purges....

Gonna install the original inks tomorrow. Is there any other steps I should take before getting the epson guys to take it to the service center?

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