Digital BW, The Print

I have just entered the digital age with a Nikon 1 V1 and Epson Stylus 1500w.  Up until a few years ago I was using a Mamiya RB 67 and Voigtlander Bessa, and printing B&W in the bathroom.  I'd like to start printing B&W on this printer.  Has anyone experience of this?  I believe the 1500 is the same as the 1430 available in the US, but am not certain on this.  I'm interested in either the MIS or Piezography sets.  These both seem to work with the 1430 at least.  I presume I'll also need to get Quadtone RIP and some edition of Photoshop.  It seems that Photoshop may also be essential to work with QTR.  Any ideas if Capture NX2 (a Nikon product) would be an alternative?  I've looked at a couple of posts mentioning the 1430 and using 1400 support through QTR unfortunately it does seem to be a different language to the one I use.
regards, 
Ross

PC or Mac? (and OS version for the latter) - the operating system you 
are using makes a big difference to how you use QTR. In neither case do 
you need Photoshop, but you do need something (not as expensive as 
Photoshop!)
On 06/12/2012 21:28, rossfmj wrote:
>
> I have just entered the digital age with a Nikon 1 V1 and Epson Stylus 
> 1500w. Up until a few years ago I was using a Mamiya RB 67 and 
> Voigtlander Bessa, and printing B&W in the bathroom. I'd like to start 
> printing B&W on this printer. Has anyone experience of this? I believe 
> the 1500 is the same as the 1430 available in the US, but am not 
> certain on this. I'm interested in either the MIS or Piezography sets. 
> These both seem to work with the 1430 at least. I presume I'll also 
> need to get Quadtone RIP and some edition of Photoshop. It seems that 
> Photoshop may also be essential to work with QTR. Any ideas if Capture 
> NX2 (a Nikon product) would be an alternative? I've looked at a couple 
> of posts mentioning the 1430 and using 1400 support through QTR 
> unfortunately it does seem to be a different language to the one I use.
> regards,
> Ross
>
>
>
> 

-- 
mike finley photography
http://www.mikefinley.co.uk
http://words.mikefinley.co.uk
http://www.roguegenegallery.com/Mike_Finley-gallery.html



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That'll be the next question.  It'll be PC. Though I need to sort a new one out as my current one is from work so I have no admin rights.  My beloved wife is very strict about any use I have of hers which runs Windows 7.

If the 1500w is supported through QTR, I would probably use Windows 7.  I was thinking of getting Photoshop Elements, so would as a starter, the following be a good starting point;

Epson Stylus 1500w
PC with Windows 7
QuadTone RIP
Photoshop Elements 11
MIS UT - 14 Inkset for the Epson 1400

I still need to find out if the 1500 is supported through QTR and that the MIS inkset cartridges are compatible (I can get 1500 refillable cartridges in the UK via Marrutt.com)

Looking at the above, my bank-card has jumped out of my pocket and run screaming from the house
 and the wife has gone to the kitchen to get the iron frying pan?

Ross


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mike Finley <mike.finley@...> wrote:

>
> PC or Mac? (and OS version for the latter) - the operating system you 
> are using makes a big difference to how you use QTR. In neither case do 
> you need Photoshop, but you do need something (not as expensive as 
> Photoshop!)
> On 06/12/2012 21:28, rossfmj wrote:
> >
> > I have just entered the digital age with a Nikon 1 V1 and Epson Stylus 
> > 1500w. Up until a few years ago I was using a Mamiya RB 67 and 
> > Voigtlander Bessa, and printing B&W in the bathroom. I'd like to start 
> > printing B&W on this printer. Has anyone experience of this? I believe 
> > the 1500 is the same as the 1430 available in the US, but am not 
> > certain on this. I'm interested in either the MIS or Piezography sets. 
> > These both seem to work with the 1430 at least. I presume I'll also 
> > need to get Quadtone RIP and some edition of Photoshop. It seems that 
> > Photoshop may also be essential to work with QTR. Any ideas if Capture 
> > NX2 (a Nikon product) would be an alternative? I've looked at a couple 
> > of posts mentioning the 1430 and using 1400 support through QTR 
> > unfortunately it does seem to be a different language to the one I use.
> > regards,
> > Ross
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> -- 
> mike finley photography
> http://www.mikefinley.co.uk
> http://words.mikefinley.co.uk
> http://www.roguegenegallery.com/Mike_Finley-gallery.html
> 
> 
> 
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>

Ok, on a PC, up to and including Windows 7 QTR works with any editor 
that can output TIFF files (ideally 16 bit, but 8 bit is OK too). it 
includes a default colour space space file that the file should ideally 
be converted to using the editor. QTR includes a program (qtrgui) that 
on the PC takes the file, picks up the profile for the printer and ink, 
and processes the file and outputs to the printer. Photoshop elements is 
probably OK, though I haven't used it myself - someoner else may be able 
to confirm.
No idea whether QTR and gtrgui are compatible with Windows 8 (which I 
aim to avoid buying!), and nor can I help with the 1500W printer, sorry!
If you are intending to use the piezography inks, you'll need to ask 
them - while they use the QTR driver, they use custom curves generated 
by them.
I'm not even sure the MIS inks are supported directly by QTR - having 
looked at what's installed for QTR for the 1400 printer on my PC, there 
appears to be only a curve for the single Ultrachrome black ink. You may 
be able to get curves for the inks elsewhere (as I don't have a 1400 
printer, I haven't looked); otherwise you'd have to develop your own.

The best reference I'm aware of for printing with qtr on the PC remains 
the one written by Tom Moore, available at 
http://www.quadtonerip.com/User%20Guide.pdf

  rossfmj wrote:
>
> That'll be the next question. It'll be PC. Though I need to sort a new 
> one out as my current one is from work so I have no admin rights. My 
> beloved wife is very strict about any use I have of hers which runs 
> Windows 7.
>
> If the 1500w is supported through QTR, I would probably use Windows 7. 
> I was thinking of getting Photoshop Elements, so would as a starter, 
> the following be a good starting point;
>
> Epson Stylus 1500w
> PC with Windows 7
> QuadTone RIP
> Photoshop Elements 11
> MIS UT - 14 Inkset for the Epson 1400
>
> I still need to find out if the 1500 is supported through QTR and that 
> the MIS inkset cartridges are compatible (I can get 1500 refillable 
> cartridges in the UK via Marrutt.com)
>
> Looking at the above, my bank-card has jumped out of my pocket and run 
> screaming from the house
> and the wife has gone to the kitchen to get the iron frying pan?
>
> Ross
> 
>

-- 
mike finley photography
http://www.mikefinley.co.uk
http://words.mikefinley.co.uk
http://www.roguegenegallery.com/Mike_Finley-gallery.html



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"rossfmj" <ross.jarvis@...> wrote:
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> ... I believe the 1500 is the same as the 1430 available in the US, but am not certain on this.

See if you can tell by the product numbers on the Epson ink cartridges.  If they use the same carts, it's probably the same printer.  I thought the 1400 equivalent was the 1410, but I'm not sure where that number was used.  So, in your market it may be a question of comparing the 1410 carts to those sold for the 1500.

>  ... I presume I'll also need to get Quadtone RIP

I think with QTR you can download it and test it before you pay.

> and some edition of Photoshop.  It seems that Photoshop may also be essential to work with QTR. 


It's not essential, but I think Photoshop is worth the price.  

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Thanks for the info so far guys.

I'm now pretty certain the Epson Stylus Photo 1500w in the EU is the same as the Artisan 1430 in the USA (bit of a clue on the set-up sheet having both names together).  The cartridges seem to be the same.  I saw a post earlier where I think someone was using QTR but had to write some script making 1400=1430.  As a complete numpty when it comes to computers, is someone using QTR on a 1430 and what, if anything needs doing to make it run?

Ross

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:

>
> "rossfmj" <ross.jarvis@> wrote:
> >
> > ... I believe the 1500 is the same as the 1430 available in the US, but am not certain on this.
> 
> See if you can tell by the product numbers on the Epson ink cartridges.  If they use the same carts, it's probably the same printer.  I thought the 1400 equivalent was the 1410, but I'm not sure where that number was used.  So, in your market it may be a question of comparing the 1410 carts to those sold for the 1500.
> 
> >  ... I presume I'll also need to get Quadtone RIP
> 
> I think with QTR you can download it and test it before you pay.
> 
> > and some edition of Photoshop.  It seems that Photoshop may also be essential to work with QTR. 
> 
> 
> It's not essential, but I think Photoshop is worth the price.  
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>