Digital BW, The Print

Frank,

I never ran into this with the Eclipse Satine but brushing off the paper
before printing is a good practice in any case. I use what is called a
counter brush which I think you can get from Light Impressions or maybe Dick
Blick. I have had mine for years for brushing off prints and boards during
dry mounting.

Martin Wesley


----- Original Message -----
From: "frankg_photo" <frank@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 5:31 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: white spots appear on print


> Thanks Jennifer & Martin - what you're saying would make sense....
> because I don't see the specks when the image is first printed, it
> only appears a few days later, when I retrieve it and have another
> look. And not consistantly either.
> I will try and blow off or dust off the paper first. Do you use
> any 'tool' in particular for this ?
> I've been using Eclipse Satine paper.
> Frank
> >
> > What paper are you using?
> >
> > Usually white spots are the result of paper dust on the paper prior
> to
> > printing which then fall off once the print is dry. Hahnemuhle
> William
> > Turner paper is known to do this but brushing the paper before
> printing on
> > it solves the problem.
> >
> > Check to see if your printer is clean. If it has a lot of paper
> dust, this
> > could be the source of your problem.
> >
> > Martin Wesley
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "frankg_photo" <frank@f...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 3:15 PM
> > Subject: [Digital BW] white spots appear on print
> >
> >
> > > for some inexplicable reason I seem to have white spots appearing
> on
> > > some of my prints after a few days - what could this be ? Damage
> > > or ....how long do you let your prints air dry before letting them
> > > lie face down or putting them away either in a drawer or box or
> > > frame ?
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> I never ran into this with the Eclipse Satine > 

Maybe that's not my problem after all. I will start 'dusting off' the 
paper and keep an eye on it. At least eliminate the possibility.

How long would you say it takes a print to Dry - before you can store 
it face down or let it touch a surface without the possibility of 
marking the "emulsion" ?
Frank


> > Thanks Jennifer & Martin - what you're saying would make sense....
> > because I don't see the specks when the image is first printed, it
> > only appears a few days later, when I retrieve it and have another
> > look. And not consistantly either.
> > I will try and blow off or dust off the paper first. Do you use
> > any 'tool' in particular for this ?
> > I've been using Eclipse Satine paper.
> > Frank
> > >
> > > What paper are you using?
> > >
> > > Usually white spots are the result of paper dust on the paper 
prior
> > to
> > > printing which then fall off once the print is dry. Hahnemuhle
> > William
> > > Turner paper is known to do this but brushing the paper before
> > printing on
> > > it solves the problem.
> > >
> > > Check to see if your printer is clean. If it has a lot of paper
> > dust, this
> > > could be the source of your problem.
> > >
> > > Martin Wesley
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "frankg_photo" <frank@f...>
> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 3:15 PM
> > > Subject: [Digital BW] white spots appear on print
> > >
> > >
> > > > for some inexplicable reason I seem to have white spots 
appearing
> > on
> > > > some of my prints after a few days - what could this be ? 
Damage
> > > > or ....how long do you let your prints air dry before letting 
them
> > > > lie face down or putting them away either in a drawer or box 
or
> > > > frame ?
> > > > frank
> > > >
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Buy "The Shark" vacuum and go to town.  (about $29 or knockoff at $19.95)....or go manual and buy a drafters brush.  

Steadman

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: frankg_photo 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 7:31 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: white spots appear on print


  Thanks Jennifer & Martin - what you're saying would make sense.... 
  because I don't see the specks when the image is first printed, it 
  only appears a few days later, when I retrieve it and have another 
  look. And not consistantly either.
  I will try and blow off or dust off the paper first. Do you use 
  any 'tool' in particular for this ?
  I've been using Eclipse Satine paper.
  Frank
  > 
  > What paper are you using?
  > 
  > Usually white spots are the result of paper dust on the paper prior 
  to
  > printing which then fall off once the print is dry. Hahnemuhle 
  William
  > Turner paper is known to do this but brushing the paper before 
  printing on
  > it solves the problem.
  > 
  > Check to see if your printer is clean. If it has a lot of paper 
  dust, this
  > could be the source of your problem.
  > 
  > Martin Wesley
  > 
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "frankg_photo" <frank@f...>
  > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
  > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 3:15 PM
  > Subject: [Digital BW] white spots appear on print
  > 
  > 
  > > for some inexplicable reason I seem to have white spots appearing 
  on
  > > some of my prints after a few days - what could this be ? Damage
  > > or ....how long do you let your prints air dry before letting them
  > > lie face down or putting them away either in a drawer or box or
  > > frame ?
  > > frank
  > >
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just use a soft cloth like a t shirt.

Jerry


frankg_photo wrote:

> Thanks Jennifer & Martin - what you're saying would make sense....
> because I don't see the specks when the image is first printed, it
> only appears a few days later, when I retrieve it and have another
> look. And not consistantly either.
> I will try and blow off or dust off the paper first. Do you use
> any 'tool' in particular for this ?
> I've been using Eclipse Satine paper.
> Frank
> >
> > What paper are you using?
> >
> > Usually white spots are the result of paper dust on the paper prior
> to
> > printing which then fall off once the print is dry. Hahnemuhle
> William
> > Turner paper is known to do this but brushing the paper before
> printing on
> > it solves the problem.
> >
> > Check to see if your printer is clean. If it has a lot of paper
> dust, this
> > could be the source of your problem.
> >
> > Martin Wesley
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "frankg_photo" <frank@f...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 3:15 PM
> > Subject: [Digital BW] white spots appear on print
> >
> >
> > > for some inexplicable reason I seem to have white spots appearing
> on
> > > some of my prints after a few days - what could this be ? Damage
> > > or ....how long do you let your prints air dry before letting them
> > > lie face down or putting them away either in a drawer or box or
> > > frame ?
> > > frank
> > >
> > >
> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks,
> Polls and
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> > >
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Jerry,
Have you had this with eclipse Satine ?

I found one of those orange col anti-static cloths that Ilford makes -
 should do the trick
Frank


> just use a soft cloth like a t shirt.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> > Thanks Jennifer & Martin - what you're saying would make sense....
> > because I don't see the specks when the image is first printed, it
> > only appears a few days later, when I retrieve it and have another
> > look. And not consistantly either.
> > I will try and blow off or dust off the paper first. Do you use
> > any 'tool' in particular for this ?
> > I've been using Eclipse Satine paper.
> > Frank
> > >
> > > What paper are you using?
> > >
> > > Usually white spots are the result of paper dust on the paper 
prior
> > to
> > > printing which then fall off once the print is dry. Hahnemuhle
> > William
> > > Turner paper is known to do this but brushing the paper before
> > printing on
> > > it solves the problem.
> > >
> > > Check to see if your printer is clean. If it has a lot of paper
> > dust, this
> > > could be the source of your problem.
> > >
> > > Martin Wesley
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "frankg_photo" <frank@f...>
> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 3:15 PM
> > > Subject: [Digital BW] white spots appear on print
> > >
> > >
> > > > for some inexplicable reason I seem to have white spots 
appearing
> > on
> > > > some of my prints after a few days - what could this be ? 
Damage
> > > > or ....how long do you let your prints air dry before letting 
them
> > > > lie face down or putting them away either in a drawer or box 
or
> > > > frame ?
> > > > frank
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks,
> > Polls and
> > > other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> > > >
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Hi Frank,

Only one time. And that was a time I didn't wipe down the paper. This really helps. I am also using the Ilford Orange cloth.

frankg_photo wrote:

> Jerry,
> Have you had this with eclipse Satine ?
>
> I found one of those orange col anti-static cloths that Ilford makes -
>  should do the trick
> Frank
>
> > just use a soft cloth like a t shirt.