Digital BW, The Print

From: "janishilesh" <shilesh.jani@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: 1280 Failure and After Market Chips


> How do you know it was the color cartridge that was the culprit?

Shilesh,

The Epson Monitor software tells you which cartridge is having a problem.
The 1270 was nice because it had separate lights of each. I have had bad
aftermarket chips before but they did not seem to harm the printer. I just
used another one and was okay.
> I
> had a similar problem at one time, also on a relatively new 1280,
> also with reset carts. In my case, it was the black chip that was the
> problem. Even though it seemed to reset (using the Lyson chip
> resetter), it would not work on the printer. So I threw it out.
>
> If you were changing only the color cart, but the black chip failed
> (some unknown glitch), I wonder what would happen if you put new
> Epson carts on both the black and color positions. Just some thoughts.

It does not recognize brand new genuine Epson cartridges now and the red
light will not go off.
>
> I have not replied to you in detail about the target prints you sent
> me. But I have been wondering why the Roark curves give me less than
> smooth gradients on my 1280. Yours are so much better. I am begining
> to think it is printer related.

Paul has noted that there are some variations but I am surprised at how
large it is between your printer an mine. If all the driver settings are
correct then I would put some Epson color cartridges in it and run some
tests. A color test wedge might reveal a problem that is not obvious in
grayscale.

How did you get Epson to replace
> yours? Any suggestions?

I called their support number and the technician had me do several routine
checks and when the problem did not clear she told me she would have a
replacement shipped to me. They require a credit card number to cover the
cost of the printer before they ship it out so you need to be honest about
what the problem is.
>
> Good luck. This is scary!

I know! And now I have two of them broken! I really want to run a bunch of
ink tests with different MIS inks and I now I am scared to use the after
market chips. I have never had a problem with the chips on my CIS by the
way.

Thanks,
Martin

>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley"
> <mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> > I had my 1280 fail last night. I changed color cartridges and when
> I placed the new cartridge in the red media light did not go out and
> the print head carriage would not return to the right when I pressed
> the Orange button.
> >
(snip)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: tomoc 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 7:03 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: 1280 Failure and After Market Chips


  Martin-

  The only resetting I've done is with the Lyson carts and resetter. I 
  assume you are using MIS. Don't you have to take the chip out of the 
  cart to reset it? If so, I wouldn't be messing with a soldering iron.

  Tom O'Connell

  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "mwesley3" 
  <mwesley250@e...> wrote:
  > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "jimhayes361" 
  > <jimhayes@j...> wrote:
  > (snip)
  > 
  > > 
  > > 1) If you remove the carts and examine the gold tines in the 
  > printhead 
  > > carefully, are any out of alignment, touching each other, 
  twisted, 
  > > bent too far out or in, etc? I have heard that chips that fall 
  out 
  > of 
  > > the cart can cause the tines to get bent when cart is removed. 
  > Maybe 
  > > something less serious but still enough of a disruptive force on 
  > > contacts has caused a misalignment (just takes one contact 
  skewed). 
  > I 
  > > now use a small soldering tip to melt the nubbins on the cart 
  over 
  > the 
  > > chips. Also remember that even if not shorting, what will happen 
  > when 
  > > a cart is put in? Will the tines depress so as to short or not 
  make 
  > > contact when a cart is inserted?
  > 
  > BINGO!! I had looked before but didn't see that on the color socket 
  > of the first printer one of the pins is bent completely up and into 
  > the groove above.
  > 
  > On the brand new printer one finger in the black cartridge socket 
  is 
  > slightly crimped.
  > 
  > Both are in a position to line up with the little chip holding nubs 
  > on the carts.
  > 
  > They don't look user repairable. #@%&#!!! Oh boy. $1,000 worth of 
  > printers and the warantee probably isn't going to cover it.
  > 
  > And now I need to buy a soldering! <G> :-(!
  > 
  > Well at least I know what the problem and solution is. Many thanks!
  > 
  > Martin
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > > 
  > > 2)I wish I remembered the details of the post, but someone once 
  had 
  > an 
  > > 1280 with blinking lights, going weird, motionless. There was 
  some 
  > > sequence of button pushing/holding that if done just right, 
  > released 
  > > the printer from this and it returned to normal.
  > > 
  > > 3) Static electrical discharge to the chip? Or are there pits on 
  > the 
  > > gold plated surface of the chip board from repeated QB7 
  resetting? 
  > > Frankly, since the Epson carts didn't work either, my bets are on 
  > #1 
  > > above, if any.
  > > 
  > > Martin let me know about this, it worries me too...
  > > Jim H.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Schern" <gschern@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:51 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: 1280 Failure and After Market Chips


I'm new to this group, and may be sticking my nose in a thread where it
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