Digital BW, The Print

Hello all,
I am a bit confused on ink issues here, and perhaps somebody can give
a bit of advice.  I just took the plunge and purchased the imageprint
rip for my 9500 running indellible inks, and just purchased a 7000 to
run hextones with the same rip.  I'm trying to decide what kind of ink
I want to put in the 7000, and am curious to know if anyone has run
the MIS VM inkset through the imageprint rip.
TIA 
Tony

Tony,

You might want to contact ColorByte directly as to where they are in
supporting the MIS VM inkset.  Note that Epson driver controls (Photoshop
curves) for MIS VM on the 7000 also are available.  Having multiple
workflows never hurts.

I think ColorByte is working on a RIP for the MIS VM inkset, and MIS, at my
suggestion, may have suggested that the VM-S inkset is even more flexible --
going from neutral to sepia.  The gray inks in the vm-s inkset are the same
as the FS-N inks.  As such, they are "non-warming" (depends on the paper).
Thus, you'd have the non-warming neutral (actually to 0.02 units cool in the
midtones) capability as FS-N, but with a variability all the way to sepia in
the warm direction.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: tony_caltabiano [mailto:calpen1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:31 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] imageprint rip/7000 and different inksets . . . .


  Hello all,
  I am a bit confused on ink issues here, and perhaps somebody can give
  a bit of advice.  I just took the plunge and purchased the imageprint
  rip for my 9500 running indellible inks, and just purchased a 7000 to
  run hextones with the same rip.  I'm trying to decide what kind of ink
  I want to put in the 7000, and am curious to know if anyone has run
  the MIS VM inkset through the imageprint rip.
  TIA
  Tony





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Hi Paul,
I talked to colorbyte.  Irene (I think that is her name) said that
imageprint does support VM-S.  I really want cool inks, and all I have
running right now is an 1160 with FS.  It pirnts neutral on art papers
for the most part, but warm on glossy, and some of my clients prefer
neutral or cool on glossy.  I was considering FS-N in my 7000, but
wasn't sure if it can use the same profiles as the FS with
imageprint.  
What also kind of bugs is the fact that imageprint seems to use (like
cone) only quad, not hextones, so the extra two inks would be doubled
up, which means that I can't use my 7000 with the epson driver if I
want.  And if I use VM inks in the 7000, then, I am not sure if I can
use it with the imageprint rip.  It appears to be an either-or
situation, and I want to get the most out of the 7000.  Of course, I
could be misunderstanding the whole situation, so if I have stated
anything wrong above, somebody set me straight please.  
best,
Tony

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Tony,
> 
> You might want to contact ColorByte directly as to where they are in
> supporting the MIS VM inkset.  Note that Epson driver controls
(Photoshop
> curves) for MIS VM on the 7000 also are available.  Having multiple
> workflows never hurts.
> 
> I think ColorByte is working on a RIP for the MIS VM inkset, and
MIS, at my
> suggestion, may have suggested that the VM-S inkset is even more
flexible --
> going from neutral to sepia.  The gray inks in the vm-s inkset are
the same
> as the FS-N inks.  As such, they are "non-warming" (depends on the
paper).
> Thus, you'd have the non-warming neutral (actually to 0.02 units
cool in the
> midtones) capability as FS-N, but with a variability all the way to
sepia in
> the warm direction.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> ____________________________________________
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tony_caltabiano [mailto:calpen1@d...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:31 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
> Subject: [Digital BW] imageprint rip/7000 and different inksets . .
. .
> 
> 
>   Hello all,
>   I am a bit confused on ink issues here, and perhaps somebody can
give
>   a bit of advice.  I just took the plunge and purchased the
imageprint
>   rip for my 9500 running indellible inks, and just purchased a
7000 to
>   run hextones with the same rip.  I'm trying to decide what kind
of ink
>   I want to put in the 7000, and am curious to know if anyone has
run

>   the MIS VM inkset through the imageprint rip.
>   TIA
>   Tony
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On 6/20/02 12:00 PM, "tony_caltabiano" <calpen1@...> wrote:

> I was considering FS-N in my 7000, but
> wasn't sure if it can use the same profiles as the FS with
> imageprint.  

The imageprint profiles for the 7000 that are available today only support
the FS inkset...not the FS-N's.  Colorbyte is profiling the FS-N's as I
write...they should be available in the next week or so...as with the
profiles for the Piezotones which are not as warm as the MIS FS inks after
the MIS inks have warmed.  I have the most current version of the Imageprint
software for the mac and it does not support the MIS VM's...however the
Windows version is further ahead and may support them now...I don't know.


Robert

Thanks for the info, Robert.  I was unable to get completion date on
the profiles from them.  I think I'll just sit here and not make a
decision on the ink for a week or two yet.  ugh.  Time to focus on
color pictures for a little while.
Tony    


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Robert Morrison
<rmorrison@p...> wrote:
> On 6/20/02 12:00 PM, "tony_caltabiano" <calpen1@d...> wrote:
> 
> > I was considering FS-N in my 7000, but
> > wasn't sure if it can use the same profiles as the FS with
> > imageprint.  
> 
> The imageprint profiles for the 7000 that are available today only
support
> the FS inkset...not the FS-N's.  Colorbyte is profiling the FS-N's
as I
> write...they should be available in the next week or so...as with
the
> profiles for the Piezotones which are not as warm as the MIS FS inks
after
> the MIS inks have warmed.  I have the most current version of the
Imageprint
> software for the mac and it does not support the MIS VM's...however
the
> Windows version is further ahead and may support them now...I don't
know.

> 
> 
> Robert