Digital BW, The Print

From: "shadow22260540" <chines@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 5:01 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Epson quad B&W inksets for 2200,7600,9600 coming soon


> Posted what I know about this in message 19379 but forgot to put it in
> subject. At any rate, in a recent conversation with an Epson Beta
> tester he told a group of us that Epson would soon be announcing ink
> sets for B&W printing.  Guess they decided Cone and MIS were getting to
> much market share.

It should then be a CMYKggg inkset as a K6g inkset isn't making it better.
An even nicer solution would be CMY K gloss + Kgg mat. Wonder whether that
is possible with drivers etc.

Ernst

-----Original Message-----
From: shadow22260540 [mailto:chines@...] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:01 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Epson quad B&W inksets for 2200,7600,9600 coming
soon
 
Posted what I know about this in message 19379 but forgot to put it in 
subject. At any rate, in a recent conversation with an Epson Beta 
tester he told a group of us that Epson would soon be announcing ink 
sets for B&W printing.  Guess they decided Cone and MIS were getting to 
much market share.






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> subject. At any rate, in a recent conversation with an Epson Beta
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> much market share.
> 
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> If correct, this makes the 2200 and IP5 even more interesting. 
> Cynic that I am, I hope it's not another Foveon and that the Epson quad
> inks don't orange fade.
>  
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:01 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
> Subject: [Digital BW] Epson quad B&W inksets for 2200,7600,9600 coming
> soon
>  
> Posted what I know about this in message 19379 but forgot to put it in 
> subject. At any rate, in a recent conversation with an Epson Beta 
> tester he told a group of us that Epson would soon be announcing ink 
> sets for B&W printing.  Guess they decided Cone and MIS were getting to 
> much market share.
> 
> 
> Stan, it made sense to me, in fact I wondered why they waited so long. He made it sound like the announcement was imminent, and he didn't swear anyone to secrecy.  So if it has no metamerism, and doesn't clog, it might be just the ticket.  It certainly shouldn't be more expensive than Cone inks and all the associated paraphernalia 
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-----Original Message-----
From: shadow22260540 [mailto:chines@...] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:19 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson quad B&W inksets for 2200,7600,9600
coming soon
 
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Shire,Stanley" <sshire@c...> 
wrote:
> If correct, this makes the 2200 and IP5 even more interesting. 
> Cynic that I am, I hope it's not another Foveon and that the Epson
quad
> inks don't orange fade.
>  
> Stan Shire
> Associate Professor/Department Chair
> Photographic Imaging
> Community College of Philadelphia
> Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.
>  
> 215 751-8320
> sshire@c...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shadow22260540 [mailto:chines@n...] 
> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:01 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
> Subject: [Digital BW] Epson quad B&W inksets for 2200,7600,9600 coming
> soon
>  
> Posted what I know about this in message 19379 but forgot to put it in

> subject. At any rate, in a recent conversation with an Epson Beta 
> tester he told a group of us that Epson would soon be announcing ink 
> sets for B&W printing.  Guess they decided Cone and MIS were getting
to 
> much market share.
> 
> 
> Stan, it made sense to me, in fact I wondered why they waited so long.
He made it sound like the announcement was imminent, and he didn't swear
anyone to secrecy.  So if it has no metamerism, and doesn't clog, it
might be just the ticket.  It certainly shouldn't be more expensive than
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	-----Original Message-----
	From: Shire,Stanley [mailto:sshire@...] 
	Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:45 PM
	To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
	Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson quad B&W inksets for
2200,7600,9600 coming soon
	
	
	I'm ready. After using IP4 on our 10000 for a year, I'm sold on
the rip,
	the fantastic support and the free profiles. John and Dan at
Colorbyte
	will go to amazing lengths to solve problems.
	
	
	
	Stan Shire
	Associate Professor/Department Chair
	Photographic Imaging
	Community College of Philadelphia
	Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.
	
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	-----Original Message-----
	From: shadow22260540 [mailto:chines@...] 
	Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:19 PM
	To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
	Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson quad B&W inksets for
2200,7600,9600
	coming soon
	
	--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Shire,Stanley"
<sshire@c...> 
	wrote:
	> If correct, this makes the 2200 and IP5 even more interesting.

	> Cynic that I am, I hope it's not another Foveon and that the
Epson
	quad
	> inks don't orange fade.
	>  
	> Stan Shire
	> Associate Professor/Department Chair
	> Photographic Imaging
	> Community College of Philadelphia
	> Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.
	>  
	> 215 751-8320
	> sshire@c...
	> -----Original Message-----
	> From: shadow22260540 [mailto:chines@n...] 
	> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:01 PM
	> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
	> Subject: [Digital BW] Epson quad B&W inksets for
2200,7600,9600 coming
	> soon
	>  
	> Posted what I know about this in message 19379 but forgot to
put it in
	
	> subject. At any rate, in a recent conversation with an Epson
Beta 
	> tester he told a group of us that Epson would soon be
announcing ink 
	> sets for B&W printing.  Guess they decided Cone and MIS were
getting
	to 
	> much market share.
	> 
	> 
	> Stan, it made sense to me, in fact I wondered why they waited
so long.
	He made it sound like the announcement was imminent, and he
didn't swear
	anyone to secrecy.  So if it has no metamerism, and doesn't
clog, it
	might be just the ticket.  It certainly shouldn't be more
expensive than
	Cone inks and all the associated paraphernalia 
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: lawrencetrek [mailto:ltitle@...]
  Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 9:26 AM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson quad B&W inksets for 2200,7600,9600 coming
soon


  It would be great if this rumor was true.  Then us black and white
  photographers could forget about spending $495 for the unproven Imageprint
  solution to producing neutral and metamerism-free prints on the 2200.
  Or having to resort to separate dedicated black/white and color printers.


  However, is there really a big enough market for Epson to develop this ?
I
  hope so, as I don't think these printers can produce acceptable out of the
box
  exhibition B/W prints.


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> 
> I think the 2200 series might be an ideal platform for a pigmented small
> gamut inkset.  It'll be interesting to see if Epson goes that route.  I'll
> ask MIS if they are interested in pursuing such an approach.
> 
> I'm no expert on color, but I would think such a system might work with
> existing profiling software also.  I assume the chips will be busted if they
> aren't already.
> 
> I think the UltraChrome inkset could (already has) really set the standard
> for quality.  However, the 3rd party inksets will probably be able to come
> close enough to be competitive on the quality and be much cheaper on price.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
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>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: lawrencetrek [mailto:ltitle@...]
>   Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 9:26 AM
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson quad B&W inksets for 2200,7600,9600 coming
> soon
> 
>   It would be great if this rumor was true.  Then us black and white
>   photographers could forget about spending $495 for the unproven Imageprint
>   solution to producing neutral and metamerism-free prints on the 2200.
>   Or having to resort to separate dedicated black/white and color printers.
> 
>   However, is there really a big enough market for Epson to develop this ?
> I
>   hope so, as I don't think these printers can produce acceptable out of the
> box
>   exhibition B/W prints.
> 
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