Digital BW, The Print

I'm running a 1280.  I've been using the Selenium carts, great 
results, using the Piezo plug in, but the cost is killing me.  I 
ordered a CIS with MIS Full Spectrum Neutral w/generations black.  
Any up front pointers?  Will I see similar results with the plug-in 
or should I learn this curves stuff? :-)

Thanks for any info!!!

Treadwinkle

The hextone MIS FS-N inkset (which really is a quadtone inkset where 
C=Pc and M=Pm) will not work with the Epson driver.  The Epson driver 
expects lighter shades of Pc and Pm.  MIS sells the FS-E inkset that 
works with the Epson driver.  You can use the Woolf lumped (non-
partitioned)workflow or can try the 1270 RGB Partitioned workflow I 
developed as a starting point (see Files|Ink Sets|MIS|MIS FS).

Good Luck.

Jeff Randall


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "treadwinkle 
<VOLveeta@b...>" <VOLveeta@b...> wrote:

> I'm running a 1280.  I've been using the Selenium carts, great 
> results, using the Piezo plug in, but the cost is killing me.  I 
> ordered a CIS with MIS Full Spectrum Neutral w/generations black.  
> Any up front pointers?  Will I see similar results with the plug-in 
> or should I learn this curves stuff? :-)
> 
> Thanks for any info!!!
> 
> Treadwinkle

Treadwinkle (what a great name!),

If you are using the Piezo driver, the MIS FS-N inks should work 
seamlessly, or alomst so.  You need to worry about FS-E inks (or 
other workflows) only if you plan to use the Epson driver.  Make sure 
the inks are in the right positions for the driver of your choice.

Good luck.

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Randall 
<jrandall@c...>" <jrandall@c...> wrote:
> The hextone MIS FS-N inkset (which really is a quadtone inkset 
where 
> C=Pc and M=Pm) will not work with the Epson driver.  The Epson 
driver 
> expects lighter shades of Pc and Pm.  MIS sells the FS-E inkset 
that 
> works with the Epson driver.  You can use the Woolf lumped (non-
> partitioned)workflow or can try the 1270 RGB Partitioned workflow I 
> developed as a starting point (see Files|Ink Sets|MIS|MIS FS).
> 
> Good Luck.
> 
> Jeff Randall
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "treadwinkle 
> <VOLveeta@b...>" <VOLveeta@b...> wrote:
> > I'm running a 1280.  I've been using the Selenium carts, great 
> > results, using the Piezo plug in, but the cost is killing me.  I 
> > ordered a CIS with MIS Full Spectrum Neutral w/generations 
black.  
> > Any up front pointers?  Will I see similar results with the plug-
in 

> > or should I learn this curves stuff? :-)
> > 
> > Thanks for any info!!!
> > 
> > Treadwinkle

Egggggggzellent!  Thanks a ton, I can't wait to give these inks a 
whirl!  

Treadwinkle

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani 
<shilesh.jani@s...>" <shilesh.jani@s...> wrote:
> Treadwinkle (what a great name!),
> 
> If you are using the Piezo driver, the MIS FS-N inks should work 
> seamlessly, or alomst so.  You need to worry about FS-E inks (or 
> other workflows) only if you plan to use the Epson driver.  Make 
sure 
> the inks are in the right positions for the driver of your choice.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Shilesh
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Randall 
> <jrandall@c...>" <jrandall@c...> wrote:
> > The hextone MIS FS-N inkset (which really is a quadtone inkset 
> where 
> > C=Pc and M=Pm) will not work with the Epson driver.  The Epson 
> driver 
> > expects lighter shades of Pc and Pm.  MIS sells the FS-E inkset 
> that 
> > works with the Epson driver.  You can use the Woolf lumped (non-
> > partitioned)workflow or can try the 1270 RGB Partitioned 
workflow I 
> > developed as a starting point (see Files|Ink Sets|MIS|MIS FS).
> > 
> > Good Luck.
> > 
> > Jeff Randall
> > 
> > 
> > --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "treadwinkle 
> > <VOLveeta@b...>" <VOLveeta@b...> wrote:
> > > I'm running a 1280.  I've been using the Selenium carts, great 
> > > results, using the Piezo plug in, but the cost is killing me.  
I 
> > > ordered a CIS with MIS Full Spectrum Neutral w/generations 
> black.  
> > > Any up front pointers?  Will I see similar results with the 
plug-

> in 
> > > or should I learn this curves stuff? :-)
> > > 
> > > Thanks for any info!!!
> > > 
> > > Treadwinkle

In a message dated 12/19/2002 3:54:30 AM Central Standard Time, 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com writes:

>  From: "treadwinkle <VOLveeta@...>" <VOLveeta@...>
> Subject: Well, I'm making the change, Piezotones to MIS... help!
> 
> I'm running a 1280.  I've been using the Selenium carts, great 
> results, using the Piezo plug in, but the cost is killing me.  I 
> ordered a CIS with MIS Full Spectrum Neutral w/generations black.  
> Any up front pointers?  Will I see similar results with the plug-in 
> or should I learn this curves stuff? :-)
> 
> Thanks for any info!!!
> 
> Treadwinkle
> 

I am in a similar situation...I think.  I just ordered my new Epson 1280 
($313 after the $100 Epson rebate).  Since it is new, it will never see color 
carts.  I am dedicating it to B/W from the very start.  Now the question 
is....what do I do next?  MIS inks, Piezotones?  Plugins?  Workflows? 

I have just started to get, what I consider, quite nice B/W output from my 
C80 using the "Russell Brown Tonal Conversion Technique"  using EEM  and 
Epson Velvet Fine Art, but I want a bigger output.

<A HREF="http://www.russellbrown.com/tips/photoshop.html">http://www.russellbrown.com/tips/photoshop.html</A>

I don't know how this stacks up against others, but it works for me and makes 
sense to me, unlike some others.  Maybe that is why it works for me.

Jerry in Houston



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